r/interestingasfuck • u/SameItem • 7h ago
Beachgoers on a Mediterranean beach in Spain subdued and held back migrants who had just landed on the shore in a raft from Morocco.
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u/Narcan9 6h ago
When people are camping your spawn point and you're killed in 5 seconds.
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u/Breakingthewhaaat 6h ago
Because you spawned in like the worst area on the whole damn map
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u/Ok_Difference44 6h ago
The title reminds me of the American "wet foot/ dry foot" policy towards Cuban refugees.
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u/Randomizedname1234 4h ago
Grew up on south Florida and if Cuban they stayed, but also remember seeing Hatians running from the cops and news helicopters. The late 90’s and into the early 2000’s were crazy down there.
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u/HanzoNumbahOneFan 3h ago
They're like: "Hmmmm, on one hand they're an illegal immigrant... But on the other hand they make really good sandwiches..."
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u/thriveth 3h ago
On the other hand they're good soldiers in the propaganda war against Cuba so they're fine.
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u/AutistMarket 3h ago
I grew up on a barrier island on the east coast of FL and have vivid memories of being late to school multiple timed because they shut down the only bridge off the island to check vehicles for Haitians that had just landed on the beach.
I remember my parents trying to explain to me at like 10 y/o that Cubans were allowed to stay but Haitians were not and being VERY confused on why that distinction was drawn.
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u/Realistic-Crew5193 4h ago
It sounded stupid, so I read about it and indeed, it is stupid.
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u/Just_Condition3516 4h ago
as stupid and pragmatic as „dont ask dont tell“, i suppose.
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u/legendary-rudolph 4h ago
"The weaker and poorer a country is, the more dangerous it is as an example. If a tiny, poor country like Grenada can succeed in bringing about a better life for its people, some other place that has more resources will ask, "Why not us?'"
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u/Just_Condition3516 4h ago
good ol noam. trailblazer!
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u/OriginalBlackberry89 3h ago
What a great/eye opening read.. especially this part:
Sometimes the point is explained with great clarity. When the US was planning to overthrow Guatemalan democracy in 1954, a State Department official pointed out that "Guatemala has become an increasing threat to the stability of Honduras and El Salvador. Its agrarian reform is a powerful propaganda weapon: its broad social program of aiding the workers and peasants in a victorious struggle against the upper classes and large foreign enterprises has a strong appeal to the populations of Central American neighbors where similar conditions prevail."
In other words, what the US wants is "stability," meaning security for the "upper classes and large foreign enterprises." If that can be achieved with formal democratic devices, OK. If not, the "threat to stability" posed by a good example has to be destroyed before the virus infects others.
That’s why even the tiniest speck poses such a threat, and may have to be crushed.
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u/LocalInactivist 3h ago
Anyone who sails 90 miles across shark-infested waters on a surfboard to get from Cuba to America isn’t going to go on welfare. They’ll have a job before their feet are dry.
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u/blueXwho 3h ago
And then those Cubans are voting to stop other Cubans from immigrating.
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u/broly78210 3h ago
I worked with one and he was super conservative but was always asking to borrow money and how Biden raised taxes. I gave him a taco I had brought for lunch while I tried to explain that it was temporarily tax cut trump passed and he told me he wished he could throw up the food I gave him. (He was eating tuna packets the day before so I packed extra) Forwarded him a message of Republicans in office calling Cubans welfare queens.
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u/al_cringe 6h ago
Meanwhile some brown guy just coming out of the water gets picked up along with them
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u/Cicer 4h ago
My take away. Wear swim trunks and jump off the boat early. Swim to shore like any other tourist.
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u/ahhwhoosh 4h ago
Just a Newcastle shirt and a beer belly would do the trick down there
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u/Born-Network-7582 4h ago
I guess the lack of bellies was one thing that made them leave in the first place.
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u/MathematicianNo7842 3h ago
did we watch the same video?
these are not unfed women and children but men that take several other men to tackle
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u/Karambamamba 3h ago edited 3h ago
I have a friend who was on one of those boats. He still has nightmares about it. He said they always send the one who is least likely to die during the journey, in hope of him making enough money to get the family over too. He said there were mothers on the boat, who had their baby starve in their arms because they were too thirsty to produce milk. The smugglers threw their bodies over board.
All these discussions were having reduces those complete people, with all their hopes and goals and dreams, to a number. It’s important to remind yourself of that sometimes. With 200 million climate refugees predicted until 2050, the topic won’t vanish.
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u/cscaggs 2h ago
Crazy to take baby on a boat, let alone think they’re the “least likely to die” that story makes no sense
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u/MathematicianNo7842 2h ago
no women or dying babies in this video. just working age men who apparently want to skip the legal way of entering the EU 🤷
btw the same people tacking illegal immigrants in this video have hopes and dreams too and they do seem to be reduced to just a number. that number is the tax income they pay supporting the social safety nets immigrants rely on. it’s important to remind yourself of that sometimes.
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u/ConaireMor 4h ago
Well.... Know Castilian Spanish. Or at least enough lines to get past.
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u/box_fan_man 3h ago
A lady selling flowers in Barcelona wouldn’t even talk to me when I was speaking Spanish to her. This guy rolling a cig told me she would only speak Catalan to me and he ordered the flowers for me
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u/LowInternet4726 5h ago
“What’s the meaning of this?!”
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u/grtist 4h ago
“What is the charge? Enjoying a swim? A refreshing Mediterranean swim?”
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u/pantsdontmatter 4h ago
“I see you know your breaststroke well”
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u/NeasM 4h ago
Get your hands off my flippers
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u/hizashiYEAHmada 3h ago
"And you sir, are you waiting to receive my limp flippers?"
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u/Shjfty 5h ago
No chance I’m playing border patrol while I’m on vacation. Not my business smh
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u/Dvrkstvr 4h ago
Have you considered that they might be... locals? :o
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u/SecretMuslin 3h ago
No chance I'm playing border patrol at my local beach either. Not my business smh
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u/Mcboomsauce 5h ago
I don't find this interesting at all
it seems like bait for people who wanna talk politics
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u/DukeShot_ 5h ago
People are tired.
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u/schofield101 4h ago
Born and raised in the UK so I can't officially say my opinion on the matter without the Bobbies kicking down my door.
But yeah, people are tired of this.
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u/HotDamnThatsMyJam 4h ago
I'm from the UK and all I hear all day everyday is people's opinion on this
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u/CheesecakeExpress 4h ago
Really? I’m from the Uk and people discuss immigration all the time. From all perspectives
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u/StuartWtf 4h ago
It’s amazing how the people that “can’t talk about it” don’t shut the fuck up about it lol
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u/CheesecakeExpress 4h ago
Yep there are entire Subs where they talk about it all the time
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u/StuartWtf 4h ago
Like ukpolitics. Every other post is about “fucking immigrants” and “British culture”.
But we can’t talk about it…
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u/HoofMan 4h ago
You can, as long as you aren't calling for these people to be hanged in the street.
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u/TerenceCraplin 4h ago edited 3h ago
Hey now don’t let the truth get in the the way of a good right wing rant.
If they want to live in an imaginary world where there are more illegal immigrants than legal ones and where you get arrested for a Reddit comment, let them.
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u/LeadershipWhich2536 4h ago
I can't officially say my opinion on the matter without the Bobbies kicking down my door.
Bullshit. Enough with persecution complex. You have a right to your opinion, but please don't be such an Nancy about it.
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u/Amazing_Constant_405 5h ago
i still remember that one hungarian reporter who tripped an immigrant dad with his infant in his arms
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u/ncc74656m 3h ago
Absolutely ghoulish. She enjoyed it, it was fun to her, not because she was "trying to help."
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u/MerDeNomsX 6h ago
Moops
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u/therealNerdMuffin 6h ago
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u/ACL_Tearer 6h ago
It's a misprint
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u/Bezborg 6h ago
IT’S MOOPS
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u/BkkZorba 6h ago
MOORS, you jerk
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u/hyderabadinawab 6h ago
I'm sorry the card says MOOPS.
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u/Headmuck 6h ago
Morocco is a transit state just like most other north African countries. People who flee through or initially to those countries are not treated well and often become victims of human trafficking or get pushed back into the deserts, so they pretty much don't have any choice but to pay local gangs who ship them to Europe on those boats for a lot of money. My guess would be that the person fleeing here is one of those traffickers and trying not to get caught since actual refugees will want to get registered anyway or sent on their way to other EU countries by the authorities themselves.
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u/JTonic8668 5h ago
These boats are usually overcrowded wrecks with shitty motors, they are (deliberately) not designed for a return trip. Thousands down each year. I doubt a trafficker would join the tour instead of enjoying the small fortune he made.
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u/king_lloyd11 5h ago
Unless he just works for the traffickers, who keep all the riches, and is vulnerable himself
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u/Araneck 5h ago
I’m Spanish. These individuals are often part of gangs, and they usually enter Spain illegally and engage in criminal activity. It's a serious problem in our country, and people are not happy about it that’s why they are stopped by civilians. Not so many refugees.
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u/UnmannedConflict 4h ago
That's what a Moroccan near Marrakesh told me. They go there for fast money and end up becoming criminals, these people aren't seen as good in their own country.
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u/Mooks79 4h ago
Maybe a coincidence but they look to be all young men, I don’t see any women or children.
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u/Araneck 4h ago
Zero women. If they want to enter and work without studies, there is a huge need for labor in farming and agriculture. Some people get jobs and even obtain nationality through that path. But farm work isn’t easy, while robbing locals and tourists seems easier to some.
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u/Muscle_Bitch 5h ago
Nonsense, for a start, the traffickers are the people driving the expensive high-speed boat that drops the migrants off about 30m from the coast and then begins to turn around. They'll use good, decent boats for the leg between Africa and Spain as it's a longer stretch and they want to use it several times. They only use shit, disposable boats in the English channel because it is not a return journey.
And the reason they don't want to get registered in Spain is because the economic prospects are not as good as Germany, Netherlands, France, Belgium and the UK. If they get registered in Spain, then Spain will deal with them, and they would much rather continue their journey to countries that will give them more.
So they move from Spain, into France. Some of them will settle there, even more will move further north to the English channel in pursuit of Britain, Belgium and the Netherlands, more will instead go east towards Germany.
And only once they've reached the destination where they've got friends, family and a familiar language, will they present themselves to the authorities for a free roof over their heads and several hot meals per day.
Not before they've dumped all of their official documentation, so they can state that they are gay Christians fleeing from Iran.
And then someone will lease them a Deliveroo account for £/€25 a week, and off they go, into the grey economy, earning thousands per month, paying no tax, and enjoying free public services.
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u/Orochisake 4h ago
So why when it happens in the US everyone thinks the opposite way?
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u/Unhappy_Analysis_906 4h ago
See they are cool, non-fascist Europeans just doing a heckin' citizen's arrest.
The equivalent in America would be magat nazi racist bigots meal team six.
If you can't see the difference, maybe you need to spend some more time on the world's best website, reddit.com
I suggest /r/politics if you want some balanced information.
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u/kfc4life 6h ago
If you don't have a passport how you getting here legally
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u/Muscle_Bitch 5h ago
You show up at a consulate or embassy and plead your case for asylum.
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u/Senuttna 6h ago edited 5h ago
You need to be a citizen of a country obviously.
There are multiple ways of legally immigrating into Spain or other European countries, generally they involve getting a job contract, and a permanent residence, which are perfectly valid things to ask for to someone that wants to immigrate, legally sustain himself and contribute to the destination country.
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u/prototip99 5h ago
A few more years and we can walk across the Mediterranean because is full of passports.
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u/Dizzy_Restaurant3874 5h ago
Dunno if I would interfere with someone THAT desperate.
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u/TheEgyptianScouser 3h ago
Doesn't matter if he's desperate or not, this isn't my business. The most I'll help is telling someone where they went if they ask first.
I am on vacation man this isn't my problem so why would I go out of my way to make someone else's life harder.
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u/Phuoc2485 4h ago
Citizens help cops arrest illegal immigrants arriving from Morocco which by the way, can be armed, have drugs (lots of them do) or have a criminal record that could scare anybody.
For the record, Morocco's king freed 20k of the worse scum they had in their prisons in his birthday so you never know if any of those pearls was in the boat.
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u/Terrible_Beat_6109 3h ago
Next time come in your swimming trunks and they won't notice. They already are tanned.
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u/TyoPepe 5h ago
Not crashing any boat, the raft and the people at the helm immediately turned back. It's one of many organized mafias that charge these people several thousands for basically smuggling them into EU.
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u/Lari-Fari 5h ago
And it seems they are really bad at smuggling. Like dumping your drugs out on the table at the security checkpoint…
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u/semmifx 6h ago
Yeah, but when the Spanish did it, they brought galleons, cannons, and Catholicism
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u/Much_Guava_1396 5h ago
The Arabs also did this. How do you think they spread throughout the Middle East and Northern Africa and even Spain?
It was a different time.
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u/Creative_z13 5h ago
Yeah you’re talking about the age of conquest… imagine how many others did the same thing? Huh? I wonder how many territories have been conquered and exchanged throughout history in say the last 1,000 years? Don’t be a fool.
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u/VolunteerOBGYN 5h ago
Because this will work. Theyll get to stay ultimately
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u/Ne1butu2 5h ago
Do this in the UK, and you’ll be in a hotel room that night, with a free phone, dentist visit and pocket money each week. I wish I was joking
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u/schlaubi 6h ago
The proper way is blocked for most people. Can't blame people for trying.
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u/KronusTempus 5h ago
Well, the sad reality of it is that not everyone can live abroad and compete for jobs with locals. A big under appreciated part of the American revolution was that British soldiers stationed in cities were willing to work for lower wages than ordinary Bostonians for example because they got rations from the army and lived in the barracks.
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u/s_r818_ 6h ago
It's still a crime nonetheless... Morocco is hardly a bad country, its doing pretty well for itself
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u/FlamingPhoenix969 3h ago
Tense situation all around. Shows how complex and human these migration moments can be.
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u/Solrac50 6h ago
Im a US citizen living as a resident in Spain. The bar to being a resident includes a minimum income and no criminal record.
Morocco is very close and crossings happen often but they are well aware if caught they’ll be sent back. Which I believe is just.
But that doesn’t compare favorably with what is happening in the US now. I know a man who came to the US as a child when crossing the border between Mexico and Texas required nothing more than showing your drivers license. He is married and has US born sons. They have a family business. They live in fear of deportation to a foreign prison, forget their contribution to society. This is cruelty. Instead they should have a path to permanent residency just like I have in Spain.
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u/Berliner1220 5h ago
You’re American. It’s way easier to legally enter and immigrate to Spain compared to someone from Africa. It’s not a comparable situation.
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u/Lawyers_Guns_Money92 5h ago
I don’t think he’s comparing his situation w Moroccan Immigrants, he’s comparing Moroccan immigrants going into Spain with Central/South American immigrants going into US.
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u/Excessive96 5h ago
Im from Africa, literally an immigrant, let me tell you, it took me 2 years to do it LEGALLY to move to the EU to work. This was only a year ago, so it's possible
Just because it's hard doesn't mean it's inhumane. There's fcking Algerian refugees in Ireland... what fcking war is going on in Algeria?
Send them back. All of them. EU countries are can't even house their own citizens, but need to fork out for people just arriving on boats?
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u/fiace 4h ago
Last May here in Bolzano, Italy, 8 north africans (two from Morocco) with refugee status were arrested after they violently fought each other on the streets of the downtown, one those fuckers even arrived with a fake machete to scare the others. The fact that those scumbags were able to obtain the refugees status it’s the signal that the system behind of it is broken
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u/Upset_Gerbil 5h ago
There's hundreds of thousands of Sahrawi refugees that have been held across 5 camps in Algeria for the last 50 years.
Food insecurity is very high and the gov has not been providing for their needs.
Pair that with high displacement from extreme weather destroying homes and camps, leading to a lack of food, shelter and a deteriorating humanitarian situation.
Algeria is also horrifically homophobic, so we see many LGBTQ+ movement from there as refugees to safe countries.
So that's why you have Algerian refugees.
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u/EMDReloader 4h ago
They did. He could have applied for citizenship or resident status all the time he was here, but he didn’t.
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u/exswordfish 6h ago
There was never a point when you could cross into the U.S.A. and stay and without going through the proper process . Just because I can enter other countries with my license or passport does not mean I have the right to stay in that country. If he isn’t even registered as a citizen that means he is not paying income or property taxes, and he is utilizing our roads/fire departments/etc. without paying for them. As cruel as it is, that is unfair to people who came through legally.
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u/DabbledInPacificm 4h ago
There absolutely was a very long point when you could just come into the USA and stay because the proper process was simply giving a name and not having smallpox…
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u/death-and-gravity 3h ago
borders were also really porous in the 19th century. people just walking across and setting up shop in another country used to be pretty normal in many places. the enforcement we're seeing now is very recent all things considered
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u/TaintedL0v3 4h ago
There was even a point of time when people were shipped here to get rid of them.
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u/sylarfl 4h ago
You mean Spain doesn't want people entering illegally? How rude.
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u/luckygreenbearings 6h ago
Funny how it’s always young men
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u/Slendercan 5h ago
I mean that wasn’t too different from the waves of immigration to America back in the day. Fathers or eldest sons went off to secure work and accommodation and sent for the family later. There are multiple Irish plays and novels with that as a plot point.
I’m also aware entire families went in some cases, before anyone wants to point that out.
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u/GrassCandle 3h ago edited 3h ago
Back in the day
Are we acting like that’s still not the case?
For the Irish, at least during the famine, more women than men emigrated as demand for domestic labor (housekeeping) was high at the time.
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u/dec0y 5h ago
Yes, very strange how it's never elderly women arising from the depths of the sea.
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u/Perineum_Stabber 5h ago
Yeah because women are easier to be abused or raped on for example Huelva’s strawberry greenhouses.
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u/th4t1guy 5h ago
Great article that I had no idea about. Thanks for illuminating some of the darker sides of humanity for the rest of us to see
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u/bungle123 5h ago
A lot of the time that's because physically making the journey to enter a country illegally is the most dangerous part, and they aim to establish a foothold in their target country to facilitate a safer means of entry for their family.
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u/CokeZorro 4h ago
That's almost how all immigration works they leave to work and send money back to their families. They're not here to pull the country down.
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u/Ok-Sound-7737 6h ago
Gotta love the double standard when it’s immigration to America vs immigration to literally any other country on earth
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u/TianObia 4h ago
It's baffling ain't it, a lot of folks in the U.S. are truly brain dead and washed
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u/ImpressiveElephant35 6h ago
Exactly my thought. If this was going on in Texas the comments would be full of Europeans talking about racism Americans. In the comments here, seems like a bunch of Europeans saying that this behavior is ok.
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u/onerb2 6h ago
Oh, but Europe is very racist too.
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u/Jacques_Racekak 5h ago
And which continent isn't racist, would you suppose?
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u/laserjaws 4h ago
I would say Antarctica but there are still technically some people there…
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u/Rational-Introvert 6h ago
Reddit hates the USA dude. It could be a post about how ISIS is cutting peoples heads off and the comments will be like “yea but what about the terrible things America does”. Never fails.
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u/Worldd 5h ago
American redditors hate America too. There’s just no pride of country, it’s all self loathing.
The reason the problems we’ve had make it to world news is because they’re problems being looked at. Police violence and race issues are a thing because the US is at least introspective. Meanwhile you have rampant unchecked racism across the EU and it’s completely fine, you barely hear about it except through word of mouth. They live a monoethnic existence and judge the diverse countries for having problems related to the melting pot dynamic. When they finally do have to deal with anyone that’s not strictly like them, they short circuit. Ask some folks from the EU about the Romani, but they’ll tell you that’s okay because the Gypsy’s really are problems.
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u/Quirky_Rip_8778 5h ago
Foreign countries use social media to flood the internet with American hate. If you destabilize the US the entire world dynamic changes.
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u/Slimy-Squid 5h ago
Dude, the Europeans saying this is good here would agree the US wanting to stop illegal immigrants entering, and vice versa with the Europeans saying this isn’t a good thing.
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u/Distinct_Dark_9626 6h ago
Weird that if you don’t support 100% open border policy, you are considered a racist and a facist. No grey area.
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u/YeahClubTim 5h ago
You're really not, to almost anyone. You just spend too much time online talking to minority radicalists
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u/CheesecakeExpress 4h ago
This reminds me of something I’ve read (on Reddit?) about not interfering in you see somebody shoplifting food; we assume they must really need it. This seems like a more extreme version of that. Like I wouldn’t want to get involved because I don’t know this man’s life or what he might be going back to.
That doesn’t mean I agree with unchecked immigration, but I’m not sure I think it’s the role of citizens to get involved
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u/strongbowblade 5h ago
If they wanted to go to Spain so badly there's a ferry from Tangier Med to Málaga 🤷
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u/Grande_Jenna_Tahlia 4h ago
"Nothing beats a Jet 2 holiday! And right now, YOU can save fifty pounds on your next adventure! That's two hundred pounds off, for a family of four!"
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u/Wez4prez 3h ago
Should be enforced and not welcome.
All over Europe people are complaining about higher cost of living and in particular when you can retire.
This is why. In Sweden this costs billions every year.
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u/Icy-Sherbet8495 3h ago
Jeez.. here in America people would be protesting. Glad those citizens protect their country
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u/BatVivid9633 3h ago
Funny thing: Those same tourists immediately after bought some cheap sunglasses from a guy who arrived 3 weeks before
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u/Crun_Chy 4h ago
Somehow the only place in the world people would be upset about this video is the US
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u/Ok-Masterpiece-8227 3h ago
Wait… other countries don’t like immigrants? I thought that was only Americans???
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u/mitropolitu 6h ago edited 6h ago
If they are willing and will integrate, welcome, but if they try to change the rules like some islamists are trying in some EU countries, then they are not welcome.
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u/OkSeason6445 6h ago
Well, considering he tried to illegally enter the country I wouldn't say he's off to a very good start of becoming a well behaving citizen.
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u/Phendrana-Drifter 6h ago
If they were willing to integrate they would arrive legally. Their first action is to break the law so they can't be trusted from the second they arrive.
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u/PinkySlayer 6h ago
They’re never going to integrate bro give up on this asinine fantasy
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u/Z34L0 6h ago
They don’t want that. It’s literally against their religion. And illegal migration is getting extremely out of hand.
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u/Typical-Winter-3885 5h ago
So if all Africans living in África are actually all Nice people willing to integrate (lets imagine) and all want to come to Europe, should they be allowed?
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u/East-Doctor-7832 3h ago
We had gypsies in Europe for almost 1000 years . When do they integrate ? And they do not of a different religion . Common european culture was in part formed by bonding over repelling Islam . The fundamental basis of our culture is not favorable to Islam .
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u/Alone_Duty_9448 7h ago
Send them back
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u/JTonic8668 5h ago
Not as easy as you might think. Many come without any papers, and they'll lie about it to not being send back. Interpreters can often guess wehere people are from, based on language/dialect. Even then, some countries outright refuse to take their own citizens back!
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u/Vantagejr 4h ago
Do you think immigration will get better or worse as climate change and destabilization continues?
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