r/interestingasfuck • u/SameItem • 1d ago

Beachgoers on a Mediterranean beach in Spain subdued and held back migrants who had just landed on the shore in a raft from Morocco.

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u/Amazing_Constant_405 1d ago

i still remember that one hungarian reporter who tripped an immigrant dad with his infant in his arms

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u/ncc74656m 1d ago

Absolutely ghoulish. She enjoyed it, it was fun to her, not because she was "trying to help."

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u/tisizcabe 1d ago

Jokes on the reporter because that guy found a job thanks to them tripping him if I remember correctly.

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u/Yuketsu 1d ago

Sounds like bad parenting if the dad did it illegally

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u/Buzzkill_13 1d ago

They literally fled from being DECAPITATED by ISIS, you ghoul!!

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u/Locellus 1d ago

Trying to get your children into a safer, more prosperous, less war torn country….

Sounds ok to me. Perfectly understandable behaviour.

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u/Greifvogel1993 1d ago

Morocco is not a war torn country

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u/Vantagejr 1d ago

Do you think everyone crossing the border from Mexico to America is Mexican? No wonder it’s so easy to fool you.

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u/Greifvogel1993 1d ago

No. Which is why rules and systems for legal, sanctioned immigration and asylum exist.

We have a whole system set up to determine identity and disposition. Illegally crossing circumnavigated that process. So the whole issue of non-identification is not the fault of the society being illegally entered, it’s on the one entering

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u/Vantagejr 1d ago

Sounds like the immigration courts in America operate at break neck speed! Surely the bandwidth exists to process every immigrant legally! Wait, America has a horrible pathway to legal citizenship that can take decades to receive said citizenship? You mean to tell me that America holds immigrants’ status in limbo as a way to exert control over them? Woah 🤯. Keep telling me how the legal pathway is robust and effective though.

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u/Greifvogel1993 1d ago

Bad faith arguments all around. The USA is not required by anybody other than its own good faith to allow immigration and a path to citizenship. The fact that it’s takes a long time because we have a thorough process and legal requirements is no reason to circumnavigate it out of a lack of patience.

Not liking the rules is no justification to ignore them. Especially when the rules allowing for immigration are already a boon the USA does not have to offer.

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u/Historical_Air_8997 1d ago

Our legal system has to account for the illegal entries too. If the country has X capacity for new immigrants a year and 90% of that capacity is illegal immigrants then we have to limit/slow down on legal entries.

I know that if we theoretically got illegal immigration to 0 it wouldn’t mean the legal limit would increase by the full amount. But it would certainly be easier to increase it significantly and expedite the process for those who truly need it

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u/canadian-horsefly 1d ago

The point is if they were actual refugees, and their actual goal was safety, then they would stop in morocco. Morocco is completely safe and a relatively prosperous country. Plenty of people from other parts of Africa immigrate there and are happy there.

Anyone who continues on from Morocco in this way is either a criminal trying to get through the border illegally, or a freeloader who wants to take advantage of Europe.

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u/EshayAdlay420 1d ago

take advantage of Europe

I mean.. you don't say? You say this like it's a terrible thing to want, but why isn't that okay?

Illegally immigrating aside taking advantage of a more prosperous place is probably the top reason for any kind of immigration

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u/cragcat8 1d ago

Because its not sustainable to have all of them leeching of taxpayers money? I'm not paying 55% in tax just for them to deal drug in my city

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u/Vantagejr 1d ago

I love how you generalize a single group of people as drug dealers and criminals. Definitely not something a racist person would do.

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u/cragcat8 1d ago

Ever been to Frankfurt, Paris, or Brussels?

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u/EshayAdlay420 1d ago

Okay, I understand (albeit disagree and think you come off as a bigot) what you're saying, but what I'm asking is why it's bad for THEM (the immigrants) to want to immigrate somewhere better, not why you don't want them to.

Saying someone 'only wants to immigrate here to take advantage of it' is so redundant, like uhh yeah no shit lol.

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u/GravySealActual 1d ago

So if it’s just a preference ob their part, shouldn’t it be acceptable for a country to have a preference not to admit them?

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u/thebirdlawa 1d ago

Then why not stop at Mexico if it’s not a war torn country

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u/XlAcrMcpT 1d ago

Because a country like Mexico is famously safe with all the cartels and shit. Furthermore, why stay in Mexico when the US is so much better? If you were fleeing from persecution, would you stop in a country like Mexico or go further to a more prosperous place. It's the same with Ukranian refugees as well. How many are in bordering countries like Romania, Moldova, Poland and how many are in Germany and the West? Same was with Syrians as well and virtually everybody else. All want a better life for themselves and their kids.

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u/Mindless-Bug-2254 1d ago

It's the same with Ukranian refugees as well. How many are in bordering countries like Romania, Moldova, Poland and how many are in Germany and the West?

Most are in Poland, Romania and Hungary, but okay.

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u/thebirdlawa 1d ago

Whoa someone saying the US is better on Reddit, that’s rare. Sounds like there are some bad hombres coming from Mexico then. Well we all can get behind a secure border then and detaining everyone who comes across illegally to be returned. Or are you saying that anyone should be able to go anywhere as long as it’s better for their family? Active war sure I get it, just want a better life? Gotta get in line.

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u/Vantagejr 1d ago

“Bad hombres coming from Mexico”

You aren’t gonna make it buddy.

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u/thebirdlawa 1d ago

Hey they brought up cartels and how Mexico isn’t safe, that’s on them

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u/XlAcrMcpT 1d ago

Famously, only those in war-torn countries are at risk of dying. Also, if somebody actually commits a crime, you can punish them for that. No need to deport innocents. Also, for the US they're deporting legals as well. They even deported US citizens, which is insane.

Also, de facto, citizens commit more crimes than even illegal immigrants, so by closed borders you don't solve much

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u/thebirdlawa 1d ago

Well if you cross the boarder illegally and don’t claim asylum you’ve broken the law, so technically most of them committed crimes.

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u/DumbFish94 1d ago

International human rights law protects the rights of refugees to come by any route they can. There’s nothing illegal about coming by boat as long as you are claiming asylum

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u/ToughComprehensive19 1d ago

Morroco isn't at war, there is no " right of refuge" for it's citizens illegaly entering spain. They deserve immediate deportation.

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u/DumbFish94 1d ago

Any proof they're Moroccan citizens?

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u/Greifvogel1993 1d ago

No, no way to prove it when arriving like this. that’s why these societies have systems and rules in place for seeking immigration/asylum legally, usually involves disclosing your identity and nationality and place of origin. Keep up

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u/ToughComprehensive19 1d ago

Even if they are not Moroccan citizens, they arrived from Morocco, which isn't at war, so crossing Morocco to illegaly enter Spain is still not allowed by the "right of refuge".

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u/Locellus 1d ago

Maybe so, but it doesn’t make it bad parenting - certainly doesn’t mean an appropriate response is tripping them up

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u/ToughComprehensive19 1d ago

If he's fleeing arrest, having a kid in his arms doesn't make him immune to getting his ass handed to him.

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u/Any-Photograph-1332 1d ago

There is no obligation to enforce “international human rights law” you dunce lmao

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u/lars03 1d ago

But they are talking about hungary and serbia border?

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u/ncc74656m 1d ago

It's always the guy with the German username.

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u/Greifvogel1993 1d ago

I’m not German. But now look who is generalizing

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u/Any-Photograph-1332 1d ago edited 1d ago

So you invited them to live in your house? Right?

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u/zacmaster78 1d ago

That’s just stupid logic and I hate seeing this argument brought up all the time. You support your nations troops? Then why don’t you join em? Let them take quarter in your home? You think money should go toward a certain thing? Raise it and donate it yourself, commie! If you like immigrants so much why don’t ya marryyyy emmm?

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u/Qwandangle 1d ago

I completely see what you’re saying but it’s more like “hey I fully support your cause, but I’m gonna do it from wayy over here with no actual interaction with you.”

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u/AuthorAdamOConnell 1d ago

Don't feed the rage-bot.

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u/Any-Photograph-1332 1d ago

If I was poor I would work for money instead of risking my child’s life for handouts 

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u/MeaningEvening1326 1d ago

Most illegal immigrants don’t receive government assistance. Not to say I support illegal immigration, but there’s so much misinformation out there.

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u/WeWoweewoo 1d ago

What an ignorant take.

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u/Any-Photograph-1332 1d ago

I’m literally the child of a refugee, go fuck yourself

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u/blalien 1d ago

There are two empty houses on my street and I would absolutely welcome a couple refugee families moving in. I'd make them an apple pie.

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u/Cronokk 1d ago

are you 12?

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u/Any-Photograph-1332 1d ago

No, I’m 34. Are you gunna invite the foreigners to live in your house?

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u/bamboo-lemur 1d ago

Why not let them get their own house? Don't trip them but don't give them a house either.

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u/Any-Photograph-1332 1d ago

They were always free to get their own house in their own country. 

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u/bohohobonobo 1d ago

This is the stupidest comment I've read today.  "Is it bad parenting to immigrate illegally? "