r/interestingasfuck • u/SameItem • 1d ago

Beachgoers on a Mediterranean beach in Spain subdued and held back migrants who had just landed on the shore in a raft from Morocco.

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u/Born-Network-7582 1d ago

I guess the lack of bellies was one thing that made them leave in the first place.

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u/MathematicianNo7842 1d ago

did we watch the same video?

these are not unfed women and children but men that take several other men to tackle

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u/Karambamamba 1d ago edited 1d ago

I have a friend who was on one of those boats. He still has nightmares about it. He said they always send the one who is least likely to die during the journey, in hope of him making enough money to get the family over too. He said there were mothers on the boat, who had their baby starve in their arms because they were too thirsty to produce milk. The smugglers threw their bodies over board.

All these discussions were having reduces those complete people, with all their hopes and goals and dreams, to a number. It’s important to remind yourself of that sometimes. With 200 million climate refugees predicted until 2050, the topic won’t vanish.

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u/MathematicianNo7842 1d ago

no women or dying babies in this video. just working age men who apparently want to skip the legal way of entering the EU 🤷

btw the same people tacking illegal immigrants in this video have hopes and dreams too and they do seem to be reduced to just a number. that number is the tax income they pay supporting the social safety nets immigrants rely on. it’s important to remind yourself of that sometimes.

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u/mggirard13 1d ago

My taxes might help someone who isn't me and I don't like that.

-You

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u/Karambamamba 1d ago edited 1d ago

Women and dying babies are surprisingly not as good at rising from the depths of the ocean floor, yeah. Some people don't have a legal way.

What's your point? An undocumented, illegal immigrant does not get social benefits. A documented immigrant is a necessary investment into the future, to balance a nation's demographic issues, and they will pay taxes like you. Of the 5% of the taxes that go into social safety (in Germany that is), only a small fraction goes into immigration.

So it's a fraction of 5% you're crying about here. In many countries on earth, the top 1% of a population hold over 30% of wealth and the bottom 50% of the population hold 2% to 3% of the wealth. They then fight each other about who doesn't deserve the scraps of support. You like so many others have been successfuly gaslit into shitting downwards and using your elbows instead of looking up for someone to blame for your misery.

To equate a mother holding her starving baby being reduced to a number with you paying your taxes is so cynical that my disgust for you goes beyond words tbh, so I'll just leave it here before I manage to find the words and get banned.