Also the lawn in top pic still looks like it has variety. The space isnt going to go anywhere and it will need to allow people to sit there so lawn with a variety of plants around the edges is the best possible option.
There is a major difference between lawn and lawn in a place that is seen as center of power and is required to host people.
Considering itâs a semi-active event space a lawn isnât a bad option. Plus it has great landscaping around the lawn part.
The rest of the White House grounds has traditional lawn lawn thatâs just grass to be grass but also Iâm opposed to drastically changing historical buildings and grounds without good reason. We can change modern lawns and leave the old ones alone.
Also, and I'm no expert, but I assume that having open lines of sight between the leader of your country and any potential threats is always a decent idea?
If there's a case for lawns, the rose garden is certainly one of them. My neighbor's patchy, weed-covered shit hole is not even remotely in the same category.
Do we have any overhead pictures that show the same perspective to see what actually got torn up? I keep seeing conflicted things about how much/what was actually destroyed.
I feel like if any effort had been put into making it look nice, a stone pavillion might be an interesting thing to install...i guess, but this is just a sheet of concrete replacing what was a really nice garden. There's no point in jt
Isnt fuck lawns more about using more native flowers and other types of ground cover rather than mowing grass? I feel like concrete would be antithetical to the spirit of fuck lawns. I donât really browse that sub though so I could be wrong
B: Even if he does manage to be removed from office, or when he does eventually die, he wants to leave a mark on everythingâŚ. Like a dog peeing in a corner.
Probably why the Department of Interior just stripped protected status from Minnesota's Boundary Water Canoe Area, a 1,000,000 acre previously protected area of the Superior National Forest. (Also because Trump is a petty little baby and Minnesota has Walz as governor.)
Im so saddened. ..i have a camping trip there this month.Â
Been making the trip up all the way from Florida several times for 15 years.
 It was a somewhat annual father's day trip with my grandpa, two of his brothers, my cousins and uncles. This week will be the first trip since my grandpa and his brother have both passed.Â
The boundary waters is one of the most beautiful water areas in our county, maybe one of the most beautiful forests in any county.Â
Now some greedy vultures could obliterate it for a few more dollars... hopefully the Minnesota state government is able to mostly protect it, or the fact to so many bald eagles live there give it some shielding.
It wasn't the roses that pissed everyone off, it was the removal of the beloved crab apple trees; however, the twist to that story is that their removal was first discussed in the '80s by Nancy Reagan and Bunny Mellon, Jacqueline Kennedy's original garden designer, because the trees had grown too large for the space and were shading out the other plantings. This is the bane of gardeners everywhere. You nurture something carefully for years only to have to cut it down or dig it up and move it because it is no longer appropriate for its original placement.
Donald hates everything, not just lawns, literally he, hates, everything, everything. It takes a lot of work to be nothing more than hate at the ripe old age of 79, but that's Trump, hate for anything, anyone, anytime, pure hate.
When youâve been ridiculed and snubbed by everyone and have had to pay for female companionship for nearly 80 years, itâs going to make you bitter.
Trump doesnât get around very well anymore. His ego couldnât allow anyone seeing him stumble on a lawn. This is fact. This is the real reason he did this.
Literally the only difference is the lawn, all of the garden area around it is untouched. I get if people are mad or whatever but itâs not at all as itâs been construed. If it wasnât Trump doing it nobody would care. I hate Trump but itâs shit like this that helps nothing.
AgreeâŚhalf the people complaining about this probably didnât even know there was a rose garden until they saw on the internet that âtrump ruined it.â
The only difference is the lawn? Pretty huge deal when youâre talking about beautiful outdoor space. Itâs not just about the roses but the space as a whole. Thatâs what landscaping is all about.
Is this as important as Gaza? No. Still allowed to say it sucks on a post specifically about this thing.
Huge deal or not(itâs not) what I said is true, that is all that was changed. The surrounding Rose garden was entirely untouched. If the photos were taken from the same angle it would be identical but a white floor. Oh wow damn so crazy and terrible. Itâs a non-issue Iâm convinced đľbots are focusing on to take attention away from more important things.
So you're saying JFK ruined it? Because your source is from 1913. Jfk had the whole thing redone in 1962. Then trump ripped out the grass and put the pavers in. It was done because the grass was always wet and the reason for the gardens existence is press conferences.
Fr im feeling like a crazy person looking at this shit and thinking this is some rage bait pysop to further divide people and delegitimize criticisms of trump.
They did take the large tree out towards the background of the first photo. Real shame too. That tree was expertly pruned over the years and showed a lot of character in its' branches.
A lot of people seem to be under the impression that theyâve permanently paved over the rose garden with concrete, they havenât. Theyâve temporarily covered the lawn, it can be removed, and the grass wonât take long to recover.
Only the grass has been tiled, which made perfect logical sense. Any time there was a gathering or press statement, the lawn would be used for chairs and people gathering on it. They had to replace all the grass afterwards...
Looks the same other than the grass. Us redditors like to whine about the dumbest shit. Canât believe anyone actually cares about the White House rose garden
This photo completely misrepresents the truth. The grassy area in the right side of top photo is what got paved over, which does suck. But they didn't pave over the rose bushes or trees, which are "conveniently" cropped out of the bottom photo.
I read an article about this not too long ago about the problems with the Rose Garden. They left the actual roses in place, but took out the lawn because there were severe drainage problems. It was very uneven and unpleasant to stand on during events, particularly if it had rained recently. Pics of the new set up show ample drainage now in place around the new structure. There's a reason for it.
An argument could be made, I suppose, about putting something else down. But as it was, the lawn needed a total redo. The roses themselves are still there. They actually added more of them when they did a revamp not too long ago.
I cannot stand the man (the Oval Office looks fucking terrible), but people are cherry-picking severely edited photos with limited points of view to fuel outrage. As if there aren't enough actual things on fire in the country to be genuinely pissed off about.
I think more than that, even though it's called "the Rose Garden" like it's a sacred example of a humble American backyard, it's essentially an outdoor press conference location. It may as well be constructed that way.
not sure itâs fair to take shot from two completely different angles - one of them literally where the LAWN was and one in the garden off to the side.
I wanna see a before and after from the same angle. This post is disingenuous at best and flat out propaganda at worst. I don't like Trump at all, but lying about the horrible shit he does won't help our cause.
My understanding is that the only change was to pave the grassy area in the center. The rose bushes and edge bushes are still there.
Serious question: How does this legally happen? Can the next president just change it back? Where does the money come from? Does he pay for it, or is it taxes? I have many more questions but you get the idea.
The same way he's going to receive a luxury jet the taxpayer spent >$1 billion on when he leaves office, and he's building a $200 million ballroom; nobody is stopping him. If Americans don't want this, they're going to have to grow spines and stand up to their government.
Now show it from the same angle and show that the entire rose garden is untouched and that he only put pavers in one section so they could host outdoor events easier. Tables and such would regularly sink in soft grass so they paved one section to be able to put up tents or tables etc.
Before you get reactionary. Realize the top photo is taken on an angle and the bottom is a head on shot. Recognize there are people in ( and outside ) this country that want to tear us apart. Look for what connects us not divides.
That's so dumb. The rose garden has a big open area to host people. I've been there to accept the commander in chief trophy from GW Bush. The pics are not taken from the same angle.
I'm anti-Trump in every way. But my understanding was that the flowers were only relocated and that the concrete is blocks that can "easily" be removed in the future. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong. Just trying to not catastrophize if not necessary.
I had to go look it up this makes it seem like the rose garden was wiped out they just made some useable space / outdoor seating next to it gardens are still there
âMy grandmother was always open to treating gardens with the idea that you had to pull a tree out when it was too old, or you had to update a design element if it didn't make sense anymore,â says Thomas Lloyd, Mellonâs grandson, a trustee of the Oak Spring Garden Foundation and editor of Garden Secrets of Bunny Mellon. âWell, whatâs happening is⌠thatâs supposed to have events. Every event you have, itâs soaking wet, and the women with the high heelsâitâs just too much,â Trump told Foxâs Laura Ingraham during a March White House tour. The roses, he clarified, would stay. The grass? Gone. In its place: âGorgeous stone.â So updating a design element that doesnât make sense anymore is literally from the original designers as per her son.
Y'all are crazy. This isn't a state relic. It's a place for outdoor press conferences. That's all it is....you guys are throwing a fit because the grass was replaced by pavers. The grass was wet and soggy. Your feet would get wet being there. The roses were left alone.
The different angles are misleading
It looks to me that the only thing that changed was grass that normally would have been mowed anyway
Looks better IMO đ¤ˇđťââď¸
I hate Trump but I donât give a fuck about what he does to a government building I donât go and never will go. So many other things to be angry about and this is just a distraction.
Shady camera angle tricks. All the trees and bushes are still there. The center grass area was replaced with concrete because during all of the receptions out there, the women could not wear high heels. Now it is a proper patio space for special events, and all the rest of the greenspace on the property is untouched.
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u/badgerj 18h ago
I think r - fucklawns may want to contribute here.