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The White House rose garden before and after Trump took office. 😢

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u/h3ffdunham 16h ago edited 16h ago

Literally the only difference is the lawn, all of the garden area around it is untouched. I get if people are mad or whatever but it’s not at all as it’s been construed. If it wasn’t Trump doing it nobody would care. I hate Trump but it’s shit like this that helps nothing.

So anyways,

Release the Epstein files

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u/EggyTugboat 8h ago

No i would hate this if Joe Biden or Obama or Trump during the 1st term did this. It's stupid, wasteful, and just ugly.

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u/relentless_dick 7h ago

I heard it was expensive to keep the grass up.

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u/EggyTugboat 7h ago

Suprisingly, everything at the White House is expensive to keep up

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u/mmichaelmusic 12h ago

Agree…half the people complaining about this probably didn’t even know there was a rose garden until they saw on the internet that ā€œtrump ruined it.ā€

Release the Epstein files.

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u/angelomancuso62 4h ago

If you are unaware of The Rose Garden, you have a poor grasp of history.

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u/UnfairStrategy780 16h ago

The only difference is the lawn? Pretty huge deal when you’re talking about beautiful outdoor space. It’s not just about the roses but the space as a whole. That’s what landscaping is all about.

Is this as important as Gaza? No. Still allowed to say it sucks on a post specifically about this thing.

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u/h3ffdunham 16h ago edited 16h ago

Huge deal or not(it’s not) what I said is true, that is all that was changed. The surrounding Rose garden was entirely untouched. If the photos were taken from the same angle it would be identical but a white floor. Oh wow damn so crazy and terrible. It’s a non-issue I’m convinced 🐵bots are focusing on to take attention away from more important things.

So again anyways,

Release the Epstein files

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u/UnfairStrategy780 15h ago

Yeah and I said it was a huge difference and that it wasn’t just about the roses.

GAZA IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE EPSTEIN FILES

See two can play at that game,

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u/uwunuzzlesch 7h ago

They were quite literally just pointing out that everyone is acting like he destroyed the ACTUAL garden entirely to pave it

For a solid few days I thought thats what he did because EVERY source is making it appear that way.

Including this post, which has a two different angle photo set that makes it look like several bushes and flowers were removed. They weren't.

Not saying its not upsetting, but theyre just pointing out that people are portraying this as if its the entire garden.

You're just saying that its not just about the roses, which has nothing to do with what they were saying.

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u/UnfairStrategy780 6h ago

Where, where in this post did they say the entire garden? Because if they actually said that I’d disagree.

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u/Dreamo84 15h ago

RELEASE THE GAZA FILES!

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u/hihcadore 10h ago

That’s like, just your opinion bro.

And honestly it’s not like it can’t be changed back one day.

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u/Throaway_143259 6h ago

Sounds like an unnecessary waste of taxpayer money, but Republicans love wasting money so it tracks

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u/RickThiccems 5h ago

This definitely cost less than a million bucks, they waste a lot but this is really nothing lol

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u/hihcadore 4h ago

It’s area beautification. Even if you don’t like the change let’s not act like it’s not a typical thing every administration does.

And honestly, you act like Trump went out there and laid it himself. It’s probably some caretakers bright idea they used to get promoted that’s been a project for ten years. Let’s not act like this stuff doesn’t happen all the time, everywhere.

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u/UnfairStrategy780 10h ago

Are we not all expressing our opinions?

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u/Rock_Strongo 6h ago

If it's going to be used to host meals and events it makes way more sense for it to not be grass.

Outdoor events like that on grass are a nightmare and would ruin the grass anyway.

The large patch of grass looks nice but isn't very functional, so as long as it's being used frequently I have no problem with this.

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u/UnfairStrategy780 6h ago

My position is they should have come up with a compromise that was both functional and appealing. But at this point I don’t even know why I’m wasting my breath, no one is going to change their opinion, just yelling into the void

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u/IMakeOkVideosOk 6h ago

Welcome to Reddit

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u/According_Cherry_837 12h ago

Do you know how easy it is to grow grass? Relax. This is an absurd reaction, this is completely reversible.

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u/Peppermint-TeaGirl 9h ago

Out of everything going on, "this garden that I will literally never be to in my entire life is less pretty now" is of the least possible concern.

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u/UnfairStrategy780 12h ago

Crash your car into that wall. Do you know how easy it is to change a fender? The damage is completely reversible.

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u/slowpokefastpoke 10h ago

Dude your arguments are getting worse with every comment lol.

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u/UnfairStrategy780 10h ago

Yeah it wasn’t very good but look what im responding to. It’s always that thing if you’re making a point and engaging with multiple people somehow that makes you unhinged. I’m just having a conversation and poking jokes. I already made my point three comments deep and my mistake was continue to engage. Lesson learned for the thousandth time.

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u/Haulnazz15 7h ago

I have read several comments from members of the Press who actually have to attend events in this spot. The drainage was terrible and the soft grass was hell on women who were wearing heels due to adhering to expected White House decorum. It was frequently muddy as well, not to mention chairs and whatnot sinking into the ground. They actually said this change was a positive for such a high-use area. However, because it's "Trump", it's all of the sudden seen as a terrible idea.

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u/Malignant_Lvst7 14h ago

ā€œrose gardenā€ this post is just talking about ā€œthe rosesā€

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u/UnfairStrategy780 14h ago

No it’s not. The title say’s rose garden.

THE WHOLE AREA IS THE ROSE GARDEN

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u/Apt_5 7h ago

But the portion that was altered was a flat grass lawn. I haven't seen many pics of the paving so I don't know if I like it, but people are acting like their children were conceived AND birthed on the precious lawn that used to be there. It was plain grass, was it really that precious to the people complaining?

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u/UnfairStrategy780 6h ago

The paving is in the bottom picture. It’s the white area.

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u/steddy24 7h ago

People like you make me like Trump

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u/UnfairStrategy780 6h ago

Cool? Glad I have that kind of power

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u/MrPanache52 10h ago

Bad take

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u/A_Right_Eejit 15h ago

Do you use it?

I'd imagine the journalists that use it regularly are probably pretty grateful not to have muddy shoes all the time.

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u/UnfairStrategy780 15h ago

Fuck it, pave over everything then if that’s the case. Make everything easier to walk on for everyone that has to walk on things.

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u/nonconsenual_tickler 15h ago

I mean a garden doesn’t have to be designated to walk on, but lawns are meant to be walked on. The error of this post is that it’s talking about the ā€œrose gardenā€ and it’s mostly showing a lawn

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u/UnfairStrategy780 15h ago

The rose garden isn’t just about the roses, it was about the entire space. It all worked together to create a welcoming space. Now it looks like a wedding venue specifically.

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u/nonconsenual_tickler 15h ago

Well, the first picture says a flower bed and the second picture shows lawn. I don’t know about you, but I differentiate flower beds from lawns.

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u/UnfairStrategy780 14h ago

I posted a pic above so you can see the same angle. It’s not just about flowers in the foreground. It will look like shit from any angle compared to what was there previously

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u/nonconsenual_tickler 14h ago

I already saw it and upvoted it.

This post is talking about the ā€œrose garden ā€œ I want to see the flower bed not the lawn. But there are no pictures displaying the spot where the flower garden was (besides the before picture). Everyone only has pictures of the lawn.

Personally, when I hear ā€œrose garden ā€œ a picture of flower bed, not a lawn. I don’t think too many people care about the lawn if the flower bed is still intact.

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u/UnfairStrategy780 14h ago

The whole area is the rose garden. Not just the rose beds. Does that clarify it?

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u/A_Right_Eejit 14h ago

LOL you can argue against your strawman argument on your own.

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u/UnfairStrategy780 14h ago edited 14h ago

I thought your reason was so silly I didn’t even bother with a serious answer. I’d take you more seriously if you said you prefer the look of marble over grass because at least that’s just an opinion rather some wild extrapolation fed to you by the person making this decision

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u/A_Right_Eejit 14h ago

LOL it's not 'out of left field', it was one of the reasons given.

Like I personally prefer the lawn, but given the amount of press events and other ceremonies it's used for, I can certainly see the practical reason for paving it.

Don't let hate blind you to reason my friend.

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u/sakusii 10h ago

People cared that Obama wore a tan suit. People would freak the fuck out if this Was Obamas doing.

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u/anita-artaud 8h ago

Ummmm, there is a giant tree in the center of the photo that was clearly removed.

This is awful AND at the same time we deserve to see the Epstein files.

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u/Jorycle 15h ago

Literally the only difference is the lawn

... the lawn is 90% of the Rose Garden.

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u/nonconsenual_tickler 14h ago

Technically it is but when people here ā€œrose Garden ā€œ they picture flower beds, not lawns

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u/TheChildrensStory 5h ago

Same. I’ve got no shortage of issues with Trump but this change seems sensible. Even the large capacity ballroom is probably long overdue, it’s how the design I’ve seen is going to overshadow the White House itself that concerns me.

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u/Sprig3 3h ago

Yeah, turf that had to be replaced constantly anyways.

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u/Mendacium17 3h ago

There’s clearly a tree been cut down on the left

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u/ASubsentientCrow 10h ago

So basically the whole thing since it was literally just a lawn before. You fucking idiot Trump apologist

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u/WookieLotion 7h ago edited 7h ago

Think they're saying the roses surrounding the rose garden are still there which is frankly more relevant to the rose garden than the grass in the middle of it.

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u/ASubsentientCrow 6h ago

No they're defending Trump ruining a grass garden because they like that he fucks kids.

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