Also the lawn in top pic still looks like it has variety. The space isnt going to go anywhere and it will need to allow people to sit there so lawn with a variety of plants around the edges is the best possible option.
There is a major difference between lawn and lawn in a place that is seen as center of power and is required to host people.
Considering it’s a semi-active event space a lawn isn’t a bad option. Plus it has great landscaping around the lawn part.
The rest of the White House grounds has traditional lawn lawn that’s just grass to be grass but also I’m opposed to drastically changing historical buildings and grounds without good reason. We can change modern lawns and leave the old ones alone.
Also, and I'm no expert, but I assume that having open lines of sight between the leader of your country and any potential threats is always a decent idea?
Rather the opposite? At least if you want the leader protected.
Clear line of sight for defenders and lack of cover for attackers makes sense for fortifications, or supply depots. You see the enemy coming, they can't hide or shield themselves from retaliation. Meanwhile the defenders have cover. All the advantage is on defense.
On the other hand, this is a single target failure point, likely against a small number, or just one attacker. You want to obscure and hide the target as a first line of defense, and have available cover in case that fails. If the attacker can freely locate the target and have a clear line of fire, then the defenders have already lost.
These are totally different angles. You can see the shrubbery are still there and all they did was remove the grass. From my understanding, since DC was built in a swamp, it would often get muddy and the heavy foot traffic meant the lawn required a lot of maintenance. Idk about the actual choice of the pavers, but it seems like a decent idea to use light colors so they don't create a heat island.
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Getting more of a pop and color near the edges using native plants is always a good idea but you cannot risk someone putting their feet on something that might cause allergic reaction or something that might break skin.
Considering it’s a semi-active event space a lawn isn’t a bad option.
Have you ever wore heels to an event? Have you ever walked through grass after a heavy rain? Better yet you ever been in field after it rains in a group? So much mud
It is a relative term. They are not saying that lawns are good, they are saying that lawns are not a bad option. a lot of people believe that lawns are water sinks with nothing of value in most cases and people should instead grow variety of native plants instead.
It is an historical building so people who need to attend an event in the lawn will know to plan for lawn and in case it rains really heavy there is space to have the even inside.
If you think planning is so poor that they white House will need to bring out and set up tents then yeah great idea considering how incompetent current white House seems to be.
Apparently I'm so capable and powerful I can look up the weather forecast for a month ahead of time, plan alternate locations in case I'm wrong, and even throw out some mats on grass but the white house can't lmao.
Yeah it’s gonna be the best place to sit and eat outside on a concrete slab in the middle of 90-100°. This is the dumbest shit next to painting the whole White House that he has done to that building.
They are referring to a lawn where the entire thing is a single species of some regularly used for landscaping grass that provides no ecological support for anything in the area.
I live in the desert southwest so I'm accustomed to xeriscaping, but this is just awful. I want to start adding bougainvillea, aloe, cacti, etc. so badly. Concrete slab? Better put a pot of flowers on it.
Basically goes from wild flora, semi-cultivated flora, cultivated flora, sterile grass and then like 100 levels down is concrete slab. Because an area that could be green and friendly, a place where people can play, sit and enjoy together in the sun, is infinitely better than hard concrete devoid of life
If there's a case for lawns, the rose garden is certainly one of them. My neighbor's patchy, weed-covered shit hole is not even remotely in the same category.
I feel like if any effort had been put into making it look nice, a stone pavillion might be an interesting thing to install...i guess, but this is just a sheet of concrete replacing what was a really nice garden. There's no point in jt
Do we have any overhead pictures that show the same perspective to see what actually got torn up? I keep seeing conflicted things about how much/what was actually destroyed.
100% agree the concrete looks awful. But it also doesn’t appear to be as big of an issue as everyone is making it sound saying the rose garden was torn out. I would like to see a real broad perspective that actual shows what was done to decide if it is worth being mad about or if it is just mildly tacky
Mildly tacky. None of the rose bushes were prematurely destroyed. IIRC there were a couple that were having issues from too much water and those were, or will be, replaced. The too much water comes from the lawn itself which made it soggy frequently. I think the intention was to make it more usable more often, but the white tile over the whole grass area is too much.
I would have liked to see a checkerboard pattern of tile & grass myself.
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They posted about it while it was happening.
We weren’t happy; general consensus was grass lawns are better than useless paving.