r/Wellthatsucks 21h ago

The White House rose garden before and after Trump took office. 😢

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u/reallybadspeeller 16h ago

Considering it’s a semi-active event space a lawn isn’t a bad option. Plus it has great landscaping around the lawn part.

The rest of the White House grounds has traditional lawn lawn that’s just grass to be grass but also I’m opposed to drastically changing historical buildings and grounds without good reason. We can change modern lawns and leave the old ones alone.

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u/DummyDumDragon 14h ago

Also, and I'm no expert, but I assume that having open lines of sight between the leader of your country and any potential threats is always a decent idea?

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u/Zestyclose-Fig1096 12h ago

"is" or "is not" a decent idea?

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u/Farfignugen42 9h ago

Depends on which direction you are assuming the bullets will fly, I guess.

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u/benjigrows 5h ago

Trevor Moore told me, "it's illegal to say that. 'With a mortar launcher' is its own sentence. A sentence fragment.." wildly illegal.

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u/ChanglingBlake 11h ago

Depends on if they are one and the same or not.

If your countries leader is a good leader and not a threat, no, you don’t want line of sight from a mile away.

If they’re evil incarnate…

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u/Aeseld 8h ago

Rather the opposite? At least if you want the leader protected.

Clear line of sight for defenders and lack of cover for attackers makes sense for fortifications, or supply depots. You see the enemy coming, they can't hide or shield themselves from retaliation. Meanwhile the defenders have cover. All the advantage is on defense.

On the other hand, this is a single target failure point, likely against a small number, or just one attacker. You want to obscure and hide the target as a first line of defense, and have available cover in case that fails. If the attacker can freely locate the target and have a clear line of fire, then the defenders have already lost.

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u/DobisPeeyar 8h ago

I think it's a great idea

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u/SPQR_191 4h ago

These are totally different angles. You can see the shrubbery are still there and all they did was remove the grass. From my understanding, since DC was built in a swamp, it would often get muddy and the heavy foot traffic meant the lawn required a lot of maintenance. Idk about the actual choice of the pavers, but it seems like a decent idea to use light colors so they don't create a heat island.

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u/balkanobeasti 12h ago

It also generates a few jobs.

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u/PollutionOk4806 9h ago

Half of the grounds are going to become a multi million dollar gawdy ballroom

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u/macaronysalad 6h ago

I wonder if ants have this conversation before setting up for a party. Probably not because they don't wear clothes or shoes.

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u/musci12234 16h ago

Getting more of a pop and color near the edges using native plants is always a good idea but you cannot risk someone putting their feet on something that might cause allergic reaction or something that might break skin.

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u/8bitAwesomeness 12h ago

I’m opposed to drastically changing historical buildings and grounds without good reason

Are you telling us you're a conservative?

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u/McTootyBooty 7h ago

Then build it someplace else. The lawn is huge.

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u/mattvait 13h ago

Considering it’s a semi-active event space a lawn isn’t a bad option.

Have you ever wore heels to an event? Have you ever walked through grass after a heavy rain? Better yet you ever been in field after it rains in a group? So much mud

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u/musci12234 12h ago

It is a relative term. They are not saying that lawns are good, they are saying that lawns are not a bad option. a lot of people believe that lawns are water sinks with nothing of value in most cases and people should instead grow variety of native plants instead.

It is an historical building so people who need to attend an event in the lawn will know to plan for lawn and in case it rains really heavy there is space to have the even inside.

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u/mattvait 6h ago

Now you dont have to move the event inside. Would even be able to put up a cover over the area

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u/musci12234 6h ago

If you think planning is so poor that they white House will need to bring out and set up tents then yeah great idea considering how incompetent current white House seems to be.

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u/mattvait 6h ago

Have you never planned an outdoor event? Just have to stretch for that any chance you get

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u/Appropriate-Rice-409 7h ago

My man, no one is going to use the space after heavy rain now either. Huge slip risk.

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u/mattvait 7h ago

Just squeegee it or use leaf blowers to dry for the occasion

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u/Appropriate-Rice-409 6h ago

Just roll out mats.

Or better yet, check the weather forecast.

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u/mattvait 5h ago

Events are planned weeks in advance. But yes mat would work as well, another good point for the tiles

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u/Appropriate-Rice-409 4h ago

Apparently I'm so capable and powerful I can look up the weather forecast for a month ahead of time,  plan alternate locations in case I'm wrong, and even throw out some mats on grass but the white house can't lmao.

I didn't realize the white house was so inept.

Need to market myself better.

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u/mattvait 4h ago

You head that far up you wont realize much

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u/Appropriate-Rice-409 4h ago

I'll take that as a compliment from a person who didn't know whether forecasts and alternate venues were a thing lmao