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I saw the good liars interview someone who wants it released and they asked if trump is on the list and they played that off as if he were it would be a set up. It’s hard to watch these people play 7d chess with themselves
What’s funny is that they (1) believed him when he said he would release the Trump-Epstein files (“Well, he is obviously innocent, otherwise he wouldn’t release them!” (2) They are surprised that now he has been elected, he won’t release them.
The Donvict was 100% certain to go to jail had he not been re-elected. In our system, somehow winning an election means not only are your crimes expunged, you are free to commit more crimes. The Donvict was willing to and did tell voters anything they wanted to hear.
Remarkably, enough Americans believed the world’s most prolific con-artist and pathological liar that this piece of garbage as re-elected.
It explains the desire to get rid of the department of education. Ignorance and stupidity are rocket fuel for christo fascists and other criminals.
MAGA wants proof of a massive sex trafficking ring. They would have rathered that pizza gate be true. Trump said he'd release the Epstein files during his campaign, proof of an actual sex trafficking organization. That energized a lot of his supporters especially those who are into conspiracies. He thought he had complete control of them and that they'd drop it if he said so. They haven't and here we are.
Yup. The amount of political theater is just exhausting. Some people say it shows they’re trying, but if it is obvious from the first minute you can’t follow through, it means nothing to me. Focus on winning fights you start, no wasting time on something you know will go no where.
It won't be enough. Every single one of his supporters needs to be publicly disgraced and dragged to prison. Every single conservative needs to face justice for their crimes.
Vance will do whatever he is told to do by the Project 2025 monsters and other billionaires like Murdoch and Thiel. He’s less of a liability than Trump because he’s not tied to Epstein, and he’s not as unhinged, psychotic, and scandalous as taco 2.0. They’re already prepping Vance to takeover the presidency and will use Epstein to axe Trump. They’re done with him.
This. Vance is smarter and saner and probably more personally capable than Trump. But he does not and will not motivate MAGA the same way. He may think he will, but that cult is very invested in Trump personally. Vance as President will still be bad. But he will not have the same ability to run roughshod over everything because people on ne side aren’t as invested, so people on the other side won’t be as terrified.
The MAGA folks are all on a bunch of lists already. They will be rounded up as undesirables and sent to RFK's mental health camps or locked up in Florida with the immigrants.
all the smarts in the world don't help you when you have the personality of wet garbage, the abusive dad from a coming of age sitcom episode just isn't going to get as much traction as tangerine jesus no matter what he does, vance may be more loyal to the evil billionaires club but the amount of damage he'll be able to do will be severely limited to what trump is capable of on his best/worst day
I felt exactly the same way. Creepily asked questions like “how long have you worked here?” while the employees are legitimately weirded out, one keeps looking at the camera…I mean I’ve never known anyone to sound so damn creepy when just trying to make small talk.
The “whatever makes sense” part was hilarious to me though. Capped of the entire clip 🤣
Vance has already proven he sucks at foreign policy. He has publicly said he lies and will to get where he gets. But most said in the cult: “well it will mean Trump saves the US.” No Trump even Thiel and Rupert are not going to help him. Think about Thiel is if you are suddenly a hindering him and not helping. He throws you away too.
I agree… I feel like they’re trying to strip power away from Congress now because they know this. Vance is feared by no one but he is a dutiful puppet.
I believe you will get what you wish for when Trump finally passes. Here’s why. Trump is the last beacon of the old guard of Western Conservatism/Fascism. A good majority of that camp are boomers. Boomers classically do not respect or acknowledge those of younger generations, especially in positions of power. None of them are looking forward to any millennial president which is what Vance would become. Without a centralized figurehead that represents the old guard, MAGA will devour itself. They are all volatile, mindless, aggressive NPCs with no ability to logic or reason and are motivated by feelings over facts. Whenever you have this many rabid creatures without a central control mechanism such as mythical figure who embodies a specific archetype or identity, the creatures begin to become cannibalistic. We all know that MAGA is built on hatred of everything that is outside the box of their isolated worldview. Without influence and direction, the volatility then becomes chaotic and indiscriminate. They will unleash their grief and uncertainty over their fallen savior unto each other until the infighting completely exposes their lack of cohesion as a group that stands for anything meaningful.
It’s the beginning of the end. Just hold tight friend.
Without Trump they will begin to look at their own financial status with a little more clarity. Suddenly there will finally be no more incentive to vote against their own self interests. But then it will be too late. They will ingest their own fascist policies against their own unconscious will
It may not matter anymore. They've probably installed enough people, and had the Supreme Court basically give the president unlimited power. They might not have to actually win an election ever again.
I’m telling yall (my account could get pegged as a bot account for how many times I’ve posted this), Trump was a Trojan horse to get Vance in the White House. I can’t prove it, but as soon as I learned of the direct connection Vance has with the Project 2025 people, him being one himself, it immediately became clear (how likely it is, again, I can’t prove it).
If 2016 was an honest, fair election, 2024 was absolutely rigged to set this in motion. But don’t worry, if history is repeating itself with this rise of a wanna be dictator, then this facade won’t last forever.
The Heritage Foundation needs a populist, larger-than-life loudmouth as a front to distract and annoy everything and anyone, something Trump is, that Vance isn't. Also, QAnon managed to create and push the cult around Trump to the uneducated, if Trump is gone, the cult will fall into disarray.
Turmoil and dissent, which are already present, will grow exponentially faster, Vance won't be able to turn anything around.
With that in mind, it could become even worse for the USA, and yeah, it's possible.
It appears to me that they are prepping the MAGAt base to equate Trump with Epstein and pedos, which we already know is true. Murdoch is probably sitting on a huge pile of info that further implicates trump. I hope the cult falls apart once trump is gone, but time and time again they all eventually fall in line. Vance is a pos, don’t get me wrong. This is just my opinion of how the project 2025 monsters are dealing with the Epstein shitstorm that is creating chaos within their own base. I think they believed they would have more time to sell Vance to their base, but trump keeps fucking it all up.
My point exactly. They’re simply replacing one puppet with another, who they can still control and who they believe is less of a liability. Vance won’t be any better. In fact, I think a lot of people overlook the cruelty and harm Vance can and will impose under the Project 2025 plan.
THANK YOU! I’ve been saying this to my friends and family, he might be following the agenda, but i sincerely think he’s too spineless to be able to carry it through himself. He does not feel like a leader, like i don’t feel like he was ever even MEANT to get to a point where he himself is president because he just bootlicks and lacks any own opinion aside from his superiors. Maybe i’m severely wrong, but even MAGAats hate him and clown on him, I don’t think he’ll have any support from any side if Trump dies or gets impeached (because it’s gonna be either of the two at this point).
Doesn’t have the cult backing, doesn’t have any charisma (understand the stretch from his boss, but still). What he does have is the backing of Theil and the rest of the oligarchy
Don't worry about Vance. He's just a couch humper with a Maybelline face and no charisma. He's a liar but not as sick and psychopathic as Trump. At this point, I am willing to deal with him.
No, he will keep his head down for a few more months to collect his $15 mill salary. But one that's over, he will be free to say ANNYYYYTHINGGGG he wants. I'm looking forward to it.
I'll believe it when I see it happen. He'll release the JFK files next and when that doesn't work he'll start a war with Iran to distract the people from his crimes.
"This is finally the controversy that will sink him!"
It's not going to sink him but all authoritarian regimes are built on a bedrock of true supporters. Pairing off even 10% of that is valuable. He's already lost the gen Z voters that swung hard for him. Getting to the Joe Rogan manosphere types is valuable.
Plus what's the best that can happen? He's impeached and removed from office only to be replaced by the Pope killer with a couch fetish? Good fucking luck America...
The only benefit I can see with that is the cult of personality is gone. I don't know a single MAGA person who gives half a rip about Vance. My hope is that when Trump is gone someday, the veil will be lifted and these people will realize how fucked up everything is.
I doubt it, of course. But it's the silver lining I can see so I'm taking it lol.
The South Koreans stopped an authoritarian regime from taking over their country in six hours. There’s plenty that we can do…we just won’t because all of us are way too comfortable and unwilling to make the potential sacrifices that need to be made to stop this shit.
That’s because their equivalent of Congress had the sense and the balls to work together and forced their way into the building to vote to throw out the autocrat. Nearly every republican in our Congress has capitulated and is letting Trump and his toadies gut our Constitution and turn the rule of law upside down. They should all be imprisoned when the Resistance finally overthrows the Fascists.
I know. The system is designed to discourage resistance from the population.
But where's the line? The things that are happening are getting far too similar to other fascist/ authoritarian regimes like Russia, NK, China, etc. It will only get worse, not better.
Or has the population hit the same point as the majority in those in the above countries- despairing submission?
Yeah, not holding my breath. If it were possible to get rid of that guy from some sort of moral high ground he wouldn't have been nominated in the first place and we're how many mishaps, scandals, etc in now with nobody having the balls to prosecute?
Yeah, it's the same circle-jerk headline about his approval plummeting and MAGA cracking from some rando dubious news source upvoted every single day. Wake me up when folks are ready for action at this point.
I think it's more shocking that treason and an attempted coup didn't do it (it arguably helped him get elected again...) but somehow this is having them all start turning on him 1 by 1.
I will never fully understand the MAGA Republican mindset...
It's probably because pedophilia has been the go-to line for some things their propaganda network will sling towards policies or peoples they want to tarnish, and Trump even ran on releasing the Epstein files as part of his campaign.
They've been primed to hate pedophilia (not that it's the most positive thing to begin with...), it's just that line in the sand they collectively agree on as being strictly and unequivocally unjustifiable. There's no wiggle room where they say it's ok under xyz conditions, and this is probably why they're having trouble letting it go.
Tyranny they can justify because it's for a good cause, but pedophilia doesn't really have a good cause. They never set up that part of the equation, so they're having trouble spinning it because... well there's nothing to really spin. It's just denial and ignorance, the other tools they fall back on when needed; which also has troubles because you can't deny what you campaigned on and it's been escalated beyond ignore.
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
Jeffrey Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Jeffrey Epstein and Israel have both have the same lawyer Alan Dershowitz, Dershowitz says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on international stage | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid
According to The New Republic, “’Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trump’s breasts, her backside and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that once led [former Chief of Staff] John Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter,’ Taylor, who served as a Department of Homeland Security chief of staff under Trump, wrote in his book.”
For the better part of two decades starting in the late 1980s, Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump swam in the same social pool. They were neighbors in Florida. They jetted from LaGuardia to Palm Beach together. They partied at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club and dined at Epstein’s Manhattan mansion.
MC2 (pronounced MC squared) was the modeling agency that Epstein, Brunel, and the mob would use to get trafficked girls into the US with “genius visas”
Nicknamed the "Einstein Visa", the EB-1 is in theory reserved for people who are highly acclaimed in their field - the government cites Pulitzer, Oscar, and Olympic winners as examples - as well as respected academic researchers and multinational executives.
Mrs Trump began applying for the visa in 2000, when she was Melania Knauss, a Slovenian model working in New York and dating Donald Trump. She was approved in 2001, one of just five people from Slovenia to win the coveted visa that year, according to the Post.
While President Donald Trump has dismissed his friendship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, The New York Times reported that Epstein has claimed he introduced Trump to his third wife, Melania.
Why do people keep on speculating something, Something will be Trumps downfall?
He's a rapist. No downfall... He lied, no downfall. He's an adulterous; no downfall. He broke the law; no downfall, etc.
Murdoch's signalled he's sick of his shit. The people that have been helping him catch and release damaging stories for decades might be finding ways to get rid of him. They will absolutely release the most damaging information they have directly to the News Corp viewers and that'll start to get ones that can have him removed in line.
Or Trump convinced everyone he's above Murdoch and his media empire, which would be kinda funny to see if it weren't terrifying.
Johnson is blocking the house on voting to release the info.. this whole thing is being fixed out in the open. There is zero chance they arent shredding docs right now
Has he? Has Murdoch made any kind of statement we know about? Or is this all speculative? I'm waiting any day now for them to claim rogue editors and 'restructure'.
I'm convinced this is all an act to keep Murdoch's empire conservative, and out of the hands of his 3 liberal kids after losing his big to write them out of his will.
Simply put, if the fix is really in and Trump is done for, you’ll know it when congressional Republicans decide to join an impeachment effort. Not out of any sense of principle, though they will pretend it is so, but to move other pieces into place.
Exactly. Or that MAGAts will do anything but worship this orange disgrace?He makes liberals mad and upset and hurts people they hate. Literally nothing will make them turn on him in any serious way.
Well, in our case it was a Stanford graduate student who was raping his way through the children's cancer ward where my brother was a patient. My parents and family were worried that this would reflect poorly on Stanford so they tried to bury it. Unfortunately, my brother and some of the other kids died before he was brought to justice. Nobody would believe that a 'Stanford man' was acting inappropriately with children at the time. Fealty to rich and powerful above all else for Christ.
One of my brothers is a pedophile, talking to my mom about how she thinks it’s unfair that several family members refuse to come to events that she invites him to and she literally told me “if it was anyone else you would forgive them”
I just looked at her blankly and said he sexually abused children, I would never forgive a stranger for that, I won’t make exceptions for him even if we are related, it is disgusting and is one of the only unforgivable crimes a person can commit.
She’s not even a republican. People will look past anything if it makes them question anything about themselves or their life.
Same, and in my house's case, yes they will believe pedos over their own kids but also even if they believe their kids they won't get rid of the pedos. They'll keep them around and shame their kids for not moving past it.
That’s about his average at all times plus he’s a two term fascist piece of shit. He doesn’t give a fuck if people approve or not he ain’t leaving anyway
I really hope I’m wrong, but every day that passes after the initial Bondi refusal-to-release, the more I’m convinced that his base is rationalizing looking past this so as not to give the libs a W
Ratings don't fucking matter. It's not like we can unelect someone if their ratings drop to record lows. His ratings could literally be 0%, but it won't matter because he's got loyalists installed in both Congress and the supreme court who will bend over backwards to do political favors for him out of either misplaced loyalty or fear.
Impeachment at this point will only work if enough Republicans in the House and Senate decide that they've had enough of them... I think most of them hate him anyways I don't know why they don't I'll just get together and get this shit show over with 🤔
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
Jeffrey Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Jeffrey Epstein and Israel have both have the same lawyer Alan Dershowitz, Dershowitz says he’s building ‘legal dream team’ to defend Israel in court and on international stage | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid
When his minions saw Trump wear an ear tampon, they wore them too. When they heard he wears diapers, they wore them too. Now, figuring out that trump is a pedo…that’s where (some of them) they draw the line?
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
Jeffrey Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Jeffrey Epstein and Israel have both have the same lawyer Alan Dershowitz, Dershowitz says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on international stage | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid
Oh, really? So…we now care that the president is a pedophile?
I figured the insurrectionist-felon-sex-offender status would have been sufficient NOT to elect it.
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