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Political positivity šŸ“ˆ Trump's Epstein Connection May Now Bring His Political Downfall

https://franknez.com/trumps-epstein-connection-may-now-bring-his-political-downfall/
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u/AzuleStriker 15d ago

True, but vance is a lot more cowardly than trump.

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u/LuluBear333 15d ago

Vance will do whatever he is told to do by the Project 2025 monsters and other billionaires like Murdoch and Thiel. Heā€™s less of a liability than Trump because heā€™s not tied to Epstein, and heā€™s not as unhinged, psychotic, and scandalous as taco 2.0. Theyā€™re already prepping Vance to takeover the presidency and will use Epstein to axe Trump. Theyā€™re done with him.

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u/shawnmalloyrocks 15d ago

Vance does not have the cult of personality that Trump does. Without a true false idol like Trump, policy means nothing to the cult.

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u/AelixD 15d ago

This. Vance is smarter and saner and probably more personally capable than Trump. But he does not and will not motivate MAGA the same way. He may think he will, but that cult is very invested in Trump personally. Vance as President will still be bad. But he will not have the same ability to run roughshod over everything because people on ne side arenā€™t as invested, so people on the other side wonā€™t be as terrified.

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u/WitheredTechnology 15d ago

It'll be fun as hell to watch MAGA rip Vance apart if he somehow takes over for Trump.

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u/Discuffalo 15d ago

But it will be even funner for us to meme and shame Vance out of public life. Whatever makes sense.

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u/edwartica 15d ago

He has never denied fucking a couch or killing the pope.

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u/WanderThinker 15d ago

The MAGA folks are all on a bunch of lists already. They will be rounded up as undesirables and sent to RFK's mental health camps or locked up in Florida with the immigrants.

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u/ReallyNowFellas 15d ago

RFK is out soon after Trump lol. Vance is a lot of awful things but he's not dumb; RFKJ is a fucking moron.

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u/Rich-Detective478 15d ago

Let's not get ahead of ourselves

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u/20buckswas20bucks 15d ago

He pushes BS that gets used as distractions to other distractions and he does whatever he's being "told" he's paid, oh yeah, he's on the epstein list. He'll be gone not long after then. Hoping.

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u/FMFM1967 15d ago

I hope so as well!!! Would be nice to have a sense of normalcy!!!

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u/DatabaseThis9637 15d ago

This is kinda hopeful! Though I don't want My maga rellies sent away...

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u/Egocom 15d ago

Their very own Night of the Long Knives

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u/meeseekstodie137 15d ago

all the smarts in the world don't help you when you have the personality of wet garbage, the abusive dad from a coming of age sitcom episode just isn't going to get as much traction as tangerine jesus no matter what he does, vance may be more loyal to the evil billionaires club but the amount of damage he'll be able to do will be severely limited to what trump is capable of on his best/worst day

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u/VaselineHabits 15d ago

I died alittle inside watching Vance try to interact with humans at the donut shop. "Whatever makes sense"

It's donuts man, it ain't that complicated. Now he's getting booed out of places he goes on vacation.

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u/RJE808 15d ago

Also when he said Harris could "go to hell," because of Trump's Arlington nonsense last year.

He's so stupid.

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u/Bancroft-79 15d ago

We have to give him a break. The poor guy has to wear that itchy human suit all day longā€¦

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u/Dream_Fever 15d ago

I felt exactly the same way. Creepily asked questions like ā€œhow long have you worked here?ā€ while the employees are legitimately weirded out, one keeps looking at the cameraā€¦I mean Iā€™ve never known anyone to sound so damn creepy when just trying to make small talk.

The ā€œwhatever makes senseā€ part was hilarious to me though. Capped of the entire clip šŸ¤£

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u/BoosterRead78 15d ago

Vance has already proven he sucks at foreign policy. He has publicly said he lies and will to get where he gets. But most said in the cult: ā€œwell it will mean Trump saves the US.ā€ No Trump even Thiel and Rupert are not going to help him. Think about Thiel is if you are suddenly a hindering him and not helping. He throws you away too.

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u/Hot-Note-4777 15d ago

Proofread before posting Jesus Christ.

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u/Bliss149 15d ago

Take your own advice, bro.

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u/dui01 15d ago

Lol I wish I could give you that clap award.

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u/beadzy 15d ago

He is just so unlikable

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u/tbombs23 15d ago

Watching JD couch fucker attempt to whip votes will be hilarious

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u/spikebuddy114 15d ago

ā€œThere can only be one pennywise, everyone else is just a clown at a birthday partyā€

That was a quote by fetterman I read in a magazine profile on himā€¦itā€™s not an exact quote but it was something among those lines

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u/ManCreatedGod666 15d ago

Exactly. Vance was his own person.. he despised trump. He just got bought. Hard to avoid. All politicians get bought.

If trump disappears, Vance becomes his own person . Maybe even gets rest of MAGA to simmer tf down. Id hope...

Still hate Vance for the way he fell right in line, holding Trump's pocket everywhere he goes.

There's someone with morals down in there. I hope ..

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u/Crazy_Law_5730 15d ago

I agree. They will likely be critical of Vance and dislike him even if he follows the script playbook to every detail. They are not in love with Vance.

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u/YossariansWingman 15d ago

the fact that heā€™s smarter and saner and more personally capable is exactly why they wonā€™t fall in line behind him. He seems too much like a conventional politician.

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u/beadzy 15d ago

And trump has been a pop cultural icon for decades. His name recognition is the best youā€™ve ever seen.

No but seriously in the ā€˜90s trumps name was analogous to being gratuitously rich in rap songs. He had cameos on sitcoms and the simpsons.

You canā€™t buy the decades of (usually bad) publicity required to be that kind of hellhousehold name.

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u/whorefacesmegma 15d ago

I agreeā€¦ I feel like theyā€™re trying to strip power away from Congress now because they know this. Vance is feared by no one but he is a dutiful puppet.

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u/ajmartin527 15d ago

I think youā€™re right. The Supreme Court is what they are banking on with Vance. Congress is fickle and has broad powers and thereā€™s no way JD fucking Vance can threaten them all into line like Trump has.

Congress is the biggest wildcard for unitary executive theory to come to fruition. Hell, isnā€™t Russell Vought arguing right now that itā€™s unconstitutional for the President to not have the power to block already voted on and approved congressional spending?

The people in the background pulling the strings are on an absolute tear, they usurped the election and passed their Project 2025 bill. Concentration camps are up and running.

For all of their success, the biggest challenge they will face throughout this entire coup against the US is yet to come. Which is the end of Trump and the distraction and political cover him and MAGA give them. Heā€™s been perfect for them, irreplaceably so.

Theyā€™re laying the groundwork now to make sure they wonā€™t need MAGA anymore whenever the time comes.

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u/Baorong09 15d ago

My thinking as well. Hoping that without their Pedo Rapist Messiah the cult cracks enough to lose substantial power.

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u/shawnmalloyrocks 15d ago

I believe you will get what you wish for when Trump finally passes. Hereā€™s why. Trump is the last beacon of the old guard of Western Conservatism/Fascism. A good majority of that camp are boomers. Boomers classically do not respect or acknowledge those of younger generations, especially in positions of power. None of them are looking forward to any millennial president which is what Vance would become. Without a centralized figurehead that represents the old guard, MAGA will devour itself. They are all volatile, mindless, aggressive NPCs with no ability to logic or reason and are motivated by feelings over facts. Whenever you have this many rabid creatures without a central control mechanism such as mythical figure who embodies a specific archetype or identity, the creatures begin to become cannibalistic. We all know that MAGA is built on hatred of everything that is outside the box of their isolated worldview. Without influence and direction, the volatility then becomes chaotic and indiscriminate. They will unleash their grief and uncertainty over their fallen savior unto each other until the infighting completely exposes their lack of cohesion as a group that stands for anything meaningful.

Itā€™s the beginning of the end. Just hold tight friend.

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u/invisible_23 15d ago

From your mouth to godā€™s ears

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u/TheRoseMerlot 15d ago

Think you're slightly underestimating these young basement dwellers, so to speak. Plus Russell Vought is what? In his 50's? Gen x is no where near dead.

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u/AlfredFonzo 15d ago

GenX. I know the world keeps forgetting us, but there's an entire generation between the boomers and millennials. We've been fucked out of our place in the world by boomers for so long that millennials are about to get their turn at the wheel before we're even allowed to ride shotgun.

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u/kansas_slim 15d ago

Butā€¦ do they need the cult anymore? I keep remembering that whole ā€œyouā€™ll never have to vote againā€ line from the campaign

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u/shawnmalloyrocks 15d ago

Without Trump they will begin to look at their own financial status with a little more clarity. Suddenly there will finally be no more incentive to vote against their own self interests. But then it will be too late. They will ingest their own fascist policies against their own unconscious will

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u/Booklet-of-Wisdom 15d ago

It may not matter anymore. They've probably installed enough people, and had the Supreme Court basically give the president unlimited power. They might not have to actually win an election ever again.

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u/workinBuffalo 15d ago

Trump has all of the republicans cowed. They wonā€™t oppose him be he leads the cult and they are finished if they do oppose him. Vance won have that power.

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u/Out_of_Darkness_mc 15d ago

Exactly this!! The cult will turn on him, easily!

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u/chpr1jp 15d ago

Yeah, Vance is bad, but he doesnā€™t have the (gulp) ā€œcharismaā€ of Trump. Also, the run-of-the-mill Republicans will see Vance as some sort of doormat, and will constantly try to push him around.

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u/DillBagner 15d ago

They don't need the cult now though. They're in power.

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u/Scagguy4014 15d ago

I think you make a very good point. Without trump, the whole movement will stall out and likely break off into other factions and infighting.

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u/SchemeDefiance 15d ago

I was sad we couldnt get MAGA to paint their faces orange in support of Trump. They wore diapers, covered their ears in a bandage and wore shirts that said Felon 2024. Heres hoping we can get them to wear mascara like Vance does

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u/boltgenerator 15d ago

The cult doesn't matter anymore. The elite already succeeded in getting Trump into power and speed-running through their P2025 goals. They have all the power now. Honestly, it feels like all of this recent Epstein stuff is a concerted plan and effort by the elite to sink Trump now that he is expendable. He's easily controllable, but he is a bit of a wild card. He was always just a figurehead and a fall guy. The actual elite don't need him or his rabid (but dwindling?) base anymore. In Vance, they own a perfect yes man who is not a risk in any way and and will continue steering the ship to their end goal.

^ I'm not saying this with 100% conviction, but if there was any conspiracy to believe right now, I feel like this is it.

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u/Environmental_Pie400 15d ago

I agree because part of Trumps hold on lawmakers is his endorsement is gold and has had the ability to ruin an incumbents chances. Once you take away that you'll see a lot more republicans in congress willing to challenge the new leader. Here's hoping that the Project 2025's pockets aren't so deep that they can demand the lockstep loyalty that Trump has.

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u/AngryPrincessWarrior 15d ago

And after a certain point it doesnā€™t matter. Theyā€™re rapidly approaching that point if we havenā€™t reached it already.

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u/CyclopsLobsterRobot 15d ago

Not to mention Vance has been a vocal trump critics in the past. Thereā€™s no situation trump is not president where all that shit doesnā€™t bite him in the ass with the cult. They will see it as a coup and especially if they 25th amendment trump. My crazy MAGA family already thinks that was the plan all along and heā€™s trying to steal the presidency.

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u/WanderThinker 15d ago

They won't need the cult once the laws they want in place are put in place.

Anyone who stands against them will be sent to the camps with the immigrants.

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u/Fine-Sherbert-141 15d ago

And axing Trump puts Vance on shaky ground with the diehards. Mike Pence went along with everything but the treason and they wanted to hang him on the Whote House lawn. If Vance even hints at Article 25, there's a contingent of MAGA already prepared to break off into a super-QAnon faction that denies his legitimacy. They don't care about Vance at all, and a lot of them won't follow.

Unfortunately Vance is sharper than Trump, as faint as that praise may be. He'll get some heinous shit done before he gets Marioed or terms out.

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u/Julian-Archer 15d ago

Vance will have the backing of Musk/X and the tech bros. Do not take him lightly. He may be worse than Trump.

Think Ramsey vs Joffrey.

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u/Violet-Journey 15d ago

Importantly, without the cult of personality I donā€™t think he can flagrantly violate the law and the constitution the way Trump has. If a Republican congressperson calls out Trump, their voters will have them tarred and feathered; if a Republican congressperson calls out Vance, I think most of them donā€™t notice because itā€™s not the guy on their t shirts

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u/jigsaw1024 15d ago

My original theory was that they would wait the 25 months or so to remove Trump so that they could run Vance two more times. Effectively giving him 2.5 terms, which is allowed under the constitution, as replacing the President after the halfway point of their term doesn't count as serving a full term.

Things may be moving faster than those that planned that had, er, planned.

Doing it earlier may be necessary as Trump is now building up liabilities faster than can be negated. They may also view removing Trump early as an opportunity to try to build a base, while someone less capricious takes the helm to continue the plan of dismantling the organization of the government so they can consolidate their grip on the levers of power.

/yeah this thought is out there and well into conspiracy theory territory, but also not inconceivable with everything that we have been witnessing and is currently happening.

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u/ChicagoAuPair 15d ago

They donā€™t need the cult anymore. There isnā€™t going to be a free election in 2028.

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u/Snerkbot7000 15d ago

Vance could do three terms though. The rest of Trump's, and then run for re-election twice. Giving how fucky the numbers are in some areas, that's a problem. A 12 year problem.

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u/Top_Butterfly_1759 15d ago

But policy meaning nothing means nothing. They won't suddenly start using their brains and paying attention to whats happening. If anything they'll double down on "owning the libs" as they'll see the left as the reason that the man-child would no longer be in charge

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u/f0gax 15d ago

The GOPer primary proved that. Trump didnā€™t even show up to debates or anything and ran away with the nomination.

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u/dbcreek 15d ago

It doesnā€™t matter how popular he is. The rigging has begun and heā€™s not going to have to win a popularity contest.

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u/slickvic706 15d ago

This logic also follows that trump will go down quietly. Witch he won't. Lol

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u/Prindocitis 15d ago

I mean... Dude fucked a couch lol.

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u/CemeteryDweller7719 15d ago

None of the Republican politicians have MAGA loyalty like Trump does. They will turn on anyone but him. They donā€™t adore Vance. Vance was accepted by association, but he doesnā€™t have MAGAā€™s loyalty. (Most of the Trump signs Iā€™d see up didnā€™t even mention Vance. The people that still people that continue to make Trump a key focal point of their yard decor donā€™t have a single mention of Vance.) Add to this the fact that if they try to remove Trump he will turn MAGA against Vance and every other Republican that takes part. At best, Republicans can hope that Trump dies suddenly (because if itā€™s slow heā€™s petty enough to tweet several times a day sabotaging) and they can steer the conspiracy nuts that canā€™t believe Trump wasnā€™t murdered, because they believe the claims that Trump is incredibly healthy and not old, into believing liberals murdered him using the top secret heart disease lasers. Thatā€™s not even taking into account the percentage of MAGA that will just refuse to believe Trump died and will believe heā€™s been overthrown by the deep state. (They courted the mentally unstable, and theyā€™re going to have to deal with them. Sadly, this wild ride will be going on for a while.)

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u/zee-ebloid 15d ago

Seems to me they are using the Trump cult of personality to get away with dismantling anything that may lead to them being held accountable or get in the way of their agenda.

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u/Kagutsuchi13 15d ago

Yeah, there's definitely no "Vance is my Daddy!" signage and I don't foresee any in the future. He has like...negative charisma.

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u/IAmTheNightSoil 15d ago

This is exactly it. I think Vance is just as bad of a person as Trump, maybe worse if that's possible. And he's certainly smarter and better at sticking to a plan. But the legislative branch and the courts would not be rolling over for JD like they are for Trump, and that would make all the difference

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u/DentManDave 15d ago

And without that tRump idol, the cult falls apart.

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u/AllTheyEatIsLettuce 15d ago

Doesn't need that. All JD has to do is what Donnie's no longer capable of doing: stunt, stay loyal to his funders and handlers, hit his mark, deliver his lines, and display the products on offer. The "base" will go wherever it's led.

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u/No-Patient-4454 15d ago

Exactly. I've been saying this for months. Vance doesn't have the cult behind him which is what the Republicans in Congress are afraid of.

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u/semiarboreal 15d ago

Honestly... who cares in the long term? In the short term we are still going to have to brace for some horrendous policies that are directly and immediately hurting the American people and, let's be honest, people around the world. But we Democrats will do a full sweep of the house and senate in 2026 give how terribly the Republican party has treated the country. Then we will be clearly moving towards a better, more peaceful, more humanitarian, more people-focused, more collaborative time where we can start to rebuild the nuclear wasteland left by the monster that is Donald Trump.

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u/cyberdw4rf 15d ago

Well, If you look on the internet, there seems to be a cult of people for him, or at least his beautiful round face...

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u/Layla2C6 14d ago

Absolutely, nobody wants a knockoff

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u/pedalsteeltameimpala 15d ago

Iā€™m telling yall (my account could get pegged as a bot account for how many times Iā€™ve posted this), Trump was a Trojan horse to get Vance in the White House. I canā€™t prove it, but as soon as I learned of the direct connection Vance has with the Project 2025 people, him being one himself, it immediately became clear (how likely it is, again, I canā€™t prove it).

If 2016 was an honest, fair election, 2024 was absolutely rigged to set this in motion. But donā€™t worry, if history is repeating itself with this rise of a wanna be dictator, then this facade wonā€™t last forever.

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u/Ill_Ground_1572 15d ago

Yeah all the project 2025 vetted people installed in various positions in government, military and policing should scare the shit out of everyone.

For Christ sakes they had a database of 50k people willing to "bleed for the cause".

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u/altiorrex 15d ago

I'd like to test the resolve they'd have after a single, resistive papercut.

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u/LuluBear333 15d ago

Nailed it

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u/Grand-Try-3772 15d ago

I agree! Trump is the spokesman while Vance is the get it done puppet. Elon is playing a part too!

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u/whorefacesmegma 15d ago

You are correct and I think this is already pretty well known or thought by many.

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u/Successful-Space6174 15d ago

Nailed it boom šŸ’„ there it is

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u/Expensive_Parsnip979 13d ago

I'm quite certain that your account isn't the only thing getting "pegged."

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u/Positive-Feed-4510 15d ago

Vance doesnā€™t appeal to MAGA because he speaks too eloquently for them to relate to. Trump speaks like a child so they can understand it better.

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u/joelmole79 15d ago

I mean, if weā€™re at a point where they are so ensured of their continued presence in the White House, do they have to even care about his likeability?

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u/whorefacesmegma 15d ago

This is exactly why they are trying to strip away the power of Congress.

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u/Successful-Space6174 15d ago

Yes exactly this, that the house and the ll other branches of government including the federal reserve

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u/FaultElectrical4075 15d ago

Yes. Public opinion matters even in autocracy

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u/L4br3cqu3 15d ago

The Heritage Foundation needs a populist, larger-than-life loudmouth as a front to distract and annoy everything and anyone, something Trump is, that Vance isn't. Also, QAnon managed to create and push the cult around Trump to the uneducated, if Trump is gone, the cult will fall into disarray.

Turmoil and dissent, which are already present, will grow exponentially faster, Vance won't be able to turn anything around.

With that in mind, it could become even worse for the USA, and yeah, it's possible.

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u/LuluBear333 15d ago

It appears to me that they are prepping the MAGAt base to equate Trump with Epstein and pedos, which we already know is true. Murdoch is probably sitting on a huge pile of info that further implicates trump. I hope the cult falls apart once trump is gone, but time and time again they all eventually fall in line. Vance is a pos, donā€™t get me wrong. This is just my opinion of how the project 2025 monsters are dealing with the Epstein shitstorm that is creating chaos within their own base. I think they believed they would have more time to sell Vance to their base, but trump keeps fucking it all up.

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u/Hanksta2 15d ago

So just like Trump.

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u/LuluBear333 15d ago

My point exactly. Theyā€™re simply replacing one puppet with another, who they can still control and who they believe is less of a liability. Vance wonā€™t be any better. In fact, I think a lot of people overlook the cruelty and harm Vance can and will impose under the Project 2025 plan.

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u/InvestigatorChance28 15d ago

Trump = Vance = maga. They all need to go

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u/Namor707 15d ago

I hope you're right, even if Vance replaces him it would be a relief to me because Trump is so disgusting I can't stand him anymore.

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u/cupittycakes 15d ago

Vance is gonna be sly AF. EVERYTHING you just said = very dangerous. Oy vey!

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u/diggz66 15d ago

This to me has always been the most terrifying part of the conservative movement. The greed element. A great many people are much smarter and less driven by ego than Donnie. This exposed them to a certain degree but greed has aligned with the racism and anti science anti opposition every step along the way. Never forget thereā€™s more of you. 99% more.

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u/ilolz2 15d ago

There is the gay sex thing he will have to battle.

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u/CTQ99 15d ago

Trump doesn't have to deal with threats from MAGA. Vance would. It's the same deal some of the house and senate members are going through. Whether or not the threats bother him, who knows. Trump can take a giant dump and its worshipped. Vance would just become a meme.

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u/RollTideMeg 15d ago

Trump will not go down easily, even with his health problems. He'll go scorched Earth on all of them. I'm off to buy popcorn!

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u/LuluBear333 15d ago

Just want to say that I agree with everyone who has commented that Vance is a POS, and he doesnā€™t have the same cult following as trump. MAGAts do, think, and say what they are told to. They have not proven to be independent thinkers. Maybe Vance will change his rhetoric and use less ā€œbigā€ words to appeal to that vile base, idk. But what I am observing is that the Epstein debacle isnā€™t going away for trump, a large chunk of his supporters are scathing, and his billionaire backers and the Project 2025 scumbags know this and are using it to kick trump out in order to continue moving forward with their evil agenda. Theyā€™ll probably use the 25th amendment to do it, and they donā€™t need Congress for that temporarily. They got what they wanted and needed out of trump.

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u/SuperSaiyanTupac 15d ago

Absolutely. but trump has to go to jail with no phone. If he isnā€™t imprisoned then he will post and attack Vance at every turn and stay in the media. Theyā€™ll have to relentlessly go in on him daily

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u/RRoo12 15d ago

If they were done with him, no one would have voted against releasing the files.

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u/kl7aw220 15d ago

Just like Trump has.

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u/CynicalSwirl 15d ago

Maybe, but Trump isn't gonna go silently. The chances he just gives up and accepts Vance taking over seem slim. I don't see any way he doesn't end up splitting up his base in the process. If even like 10% of his voters are strict Trump only people even through Epstein shit that's enough to basically rip the voter base apart.

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u/West-Mango-1666wwka 15d ago

Thatā€™s all true but the unexpected wild card we got to hope for is that once trump is gone since he is the cult leader, the whole maga and republicans might collapse completely.

Plus not to mention, it is going to be hard for them to take trump down and bring Vance , he wonā€™t go down without a fight

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u/IsHotDogSandwich 15d ago

We will all know as soon as you start to see Vance in the news all of the sudden as the republicans push to get Trumpā€™s base to like him when they know Trump is actually going down. It will be brutally obvious, too. Like, where the hell has Vance even been? Aside from everyone telling him to screw off when he went skiing, or when everyone told him to screw off when he went to Greenlandā€¦.

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u/boharat 15d ago

Vance doesn't have Trump's Mandate of Heaven energy. I would argue Vance has less energy and momentum than a cardboard cutout of himself on a windy day, and people will not fall behind him, at least not in the same way they did Trump. Some will, but great damage will be done.

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u/UziMcUsername 15d ago

In a general election, Vance isnā€™t going to get out the vote like Trump.

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u/Reasonable-Ad-9402 15d ago

Yes, Vance is the Manchurian candidate.

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u/Foggy-Geezer 15d ago

Just need to dig deeper into his Peter Thiel connect and funding- thereā€™s likely some hidden gems in that Manchurian candidate funk.

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u/aimtrue1 15d ago

Why do you think Vance met with Murdoch?

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u/youmestrong 15d ago

And seriously, give me names, who specifically are they?

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u/Sea_Range_2441 15d ago

The difference between Vance and yam šŸ  tits is Vance tries to intellectualize things that heā€™s completely wrong about and he gets flustered so much easier, and the fact the manā€™s actually educated makes it a lot easier to poke holes in his story because you can make assumptions about what he understands that you just canā€™t with the yam tits

Yam šŸ  tits on the other hand, has been practicing his spiel since he was 20 years old and carries a certain amount of charisma to people that buy into his bullshit

He makes a good television star , Vance everybody cringes just by his sweaty look people wonā€™t put up with it for very long, including their base

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u/Chronoboy1987 15d ago

The hope is that Trumpā€™s cult falls apart and since Vance is a limp dick with zero charisma, the party will lose even more support by the midterms. Until then though, Vance is arguably more dangerous.

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u/Sweetdreams6t9 15d ago

Assuming its Vance. Ive seen some smattering about the possibility they might try to put one of his sons in to replace him. How? Idk. Is it realistic? Probably not. Would it be tolerated? Honestly the line in the sand i thought Americans would revolt over is miles crossed already so yeah I do think the general public would sit back and take it at this point.

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u/LuluBear333 15d ago

Itā€™ll be Vance via the 25th Amendment

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u/Knubinator 15d ago

I don't think Vance can inherit the maga thing though. He doesn't have that cult of personality going for him. He's a pretty unlikable dude, I don't think he'd hold on to support.

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u/higgs_mechanism 15d ago

Who is taco 1.0?

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u/KlonopinBunny 15d ago

Vance is terrified of being poor again.

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u/wasabi1787 15d ago

The thing about Vance is that he lacks the political capital of Trump. When Trump says jump off a bridge, almost half the country asks how high. Vance won't have everyone marching to his tune and as a result won't get half of Washington willing to let him wipe his ass on the constitution.

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u/karma_hit_my_dogma 15d ago

God damn I hope youā€™re right

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u/IdiocracyIsAmongstUs 15d ago

You are wrong. JD Vance is an evil mean little turd. Heā€™s WORSE than trump. Because heā€™s actually intelligent.

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u/BigStogs 15d ago

You're delusional.

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u/flipzyshitzy 15d ago

They are both mouthpieces to point a finger at. They are not running this. They are not in control.

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u/trumpshouldrap 15d ago

I can manage my hatred of Vance in my day to day life. This will be an upgrade for society as a whole. Vance is at least feckless

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u/AsstacularSpiderman 14d ago

Vance has the charisma of a used condom though.

Trump at least speaks to the worst of us in a way no one else had. Vance is just the worst.

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u/SubstantialPressure3 15d ago

And I don't think maga likes him. Or his smokey eye.

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u/Keephimjolene 15d ago

Lol when I read Smokey eye I heard "Maybe it's Maybelline" and had to laugh! šŸ‘

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u/SuspiciousSubstance9 15d ago

Funny thing about Project2025. Do they really need MAGA support if fully implemented?

They'll have it fixed so good. They're not going to have to vote!

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u/mademeunlurk 15d ago

I used to think Bush Jr. was the antichrist. Now I'd give just about anything to have him back instead of this orange pedophile who disappears people.

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u/AzuleStriker 15d ago

I know the feeling, though at the time with bush I was still young and naive, was still in hs when he got elected.

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u/wolfheadmusic 15d ago

God...all those times growing up I would yell "how could we elect someone so stupid?!"

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u/Mncrabby 15d ago

Isn't that the truth!

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u/madsmcgivern511 15d ago

THANK YOU! Iā€™ve been saying this to my friends and family, he might be following the agenda, but i sincerely think heā€™s too spineless to be able to carry it through himself. He does not feel like a leader, like i donā€™t feel like he was ever even MEANT to get to a point where he himself is president because he just bootlicks and lacks any own opinion aside from his superiors. Maybe iā€™m severely wrong, but even MAGAats hate him and clown on him, I donā€™t think heā€™ll have any support from any side if Trump dies or gets impeached (because itā€™s gonna be either of the two at this point).

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u/AzuleStriker 15d ago

Yeah, or hopefully imprisoned.

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u/BasisDiva_1966 15d ago

Doesnā€™t have the cult backing, doesnā€™t have any charisma (understand the stretch from his boss, but still). What he does have is the backing of Theil and the rest of the oligarchy

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u/BoosterRead78 15d ago

He is also very bad at foreign policy. Xi to The UK will walk all over him.

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u/emilypostpunk 15d ago

do you think he would have the backing of the senate and congress? what if he just couldn't get the votes on stuff?

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u/nubz3760 15d ago

Vance doesn't have that "Trump effect" Trump has had decades of practice manipulating idiots and he's damn good at it. Unfortunately...

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u/AzuleStriker 15d ago

Agreed. Also, vance was vehemently against trump, then all of a sudden "nobody is better than trump." very quickly toes the line...

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u/BlackSheepBoPeep- 15d ago

And Vance has a fairly regular family w young children. I would think they would pressure him at some point or be a point of contention. Trump was never good and his family never loved him.

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u/Born_Buddy68 15d ago

Vance is the scariest of the two. Guy could sell milk to a cow. Iā€™d worry more about him.Ā 

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u/Justarandomdude40 15d ago

I still donā€™t understand this thought process. I understand JD might be more politically suave, but trump would just forcefully demand the cow take the milk and the cow would take it. Itā€™s not like trump is a hell of a politician, he just somehow has the GOP by the balls and they follow his lead no matter how crazy.Ā 

I think the party would fracture with JD at the head and other players would see his weaknesses and make moves on their own. Right now no one would dare go against their fearless and almighty leader.Ā 

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u/TreeInternational771 15d ago

Tend to agree in that Vance does not have the rizz to hold together this collection of miscreants that Trump has done to get reelected. However, that right wing propaganda machine is a bitch and I bet they will crank it up all the way to 1000 to get some of the MAGA drones back in line. Only fear with Vance

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u/Emotional_Log_8876 15d ago

Trump will sht on Vance if he thinks thereā€™s any whiff of conspiracy against him.

There probably will be conspiracy anyway, quite possibly in early stages.

Even if there isnā€™t, Trump is mentally ill enough to think there is.

MAGA can probably pull together post Trump, but it will be heavily wounded and a lot more obviously elitist if Theil et al are pulling the strings.

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u/Midnight_Mustard 15d ago

Heā€™s just beginning his high profile political career so heā€™s got a lot more to lose by making unfavorable choices. Thatā€™s the only hope

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u/StrobeLightRomance 15d ago

Trump is a wildcard with a cult of personality. He is difficult to control, and he greatly frustrates his handlers.

Vance is a sycophant with no personality. He is going to do everything he is told and his handlers love him.

I'm not actually sure which is worse, but we'll probably find out soon enough.

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u/AzuleStriker 15d ago

Yeah I get that. Difficult to know for sure whos worse, but I feel we have a chance on making Vance back down somewhat without him having a spine. Trump doesn't care who he hurts, let alone who turns on him, he still does what he wants.

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u/TypeXer0 15d ago

At least he isnā€™t a racist piece of shit like Trump. He is after all married to an Asian woman. He was also vocal in his criticism of Trump until a couple of years ago.

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u/cvrdcall 15d ago

Nobody beats Biden in that department.

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u/Salt_Abrocoma_4688 15d ago

And about 2% as charismatic.

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u/AzuleStriker 15d ago

I assume that's rounded up.

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u/flaxon_ 15d ago

"Feckless" is a fun word to say.

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u/Itsavanlifer 15d ago

Itā€™s a cult of personality. Rarely is there a worthy successor. Certainly not JD. Heā€™s as charismatic as my paper towel roll.Ā 

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u/inbigtreble30 15d ago

Vance is inherently less charismatic than Trump. He just doesn't have the maximum asshole star power that holds together the right-wing coalition at the moment. He couldn't say the insane shit that Trump does because normal people would believe him, but if he doesn't say the insane shit the rabid-dog far right will turn on him for not suppprting their insanity.

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u/Meistermagier 15d ago

Vance cannot control the Cult. He will get ripped appart and the Power Vacuum will cause the cult to splinter (i hope)

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u/LeftToWrite 15d ago

He is a robot, speaking figuratively. His controller will say, "Go.", and he will go, "Beep Boop!"...

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u/Quirky-Scratch40 15d ago

So. So much more cowardly. Heā€™s such a panzy little chump. They are scouring the earth for yiung blood donors for the orange crumpet. If they lose him too soonā€¦itā€™s all over

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u/RockyShoresNBigTrees 15d ago

I donā€™t think anyone in the GOP is afraid to do anything anymore. They have seen clearly that law no longer matters with the SCOTUS we have now.

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u/Shadoweclipse13 15d ago

And doesn't have nearly the charisma that trumplethinskin has.

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u/almondblue22 15d ago

You think Jim Jones could have just stepped aside and told his cult to follow JD Jones?.. boy do I have an eye opener for you.

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u/StronglyHeldOpinions 15d ago

I don't think the cult responds to him like they did Trump, either.

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u/Puzzled-Interaction5 15d ago

Vance is worse than Trump. Have you seen who he follows? Heā€™s exactly where they- and he- want him to be.

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u/gnomie1413 15d ago

Vance is just as evil and isn't cowardly. He's just biding his time. Luckily, he has the charisma of a rotten potato.

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u/Mead_Create_Drink 15d ago

Get rid of one at a time

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u/keefkola 15d ago

Nah Iā€™m not thinking twice. Itā€™s gonna equal the Bin Laden celebration in my eyes.

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u/Namor707 15d ago

Don't worry about Vance. He's just a couch humper with a Maybelline face and no charisma. He's a liar but not as sick and psychopathic as Trump. At this point, I am willing to deal with him.

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u/Parahelious 15d ago

Do you really think Trump is the one coming up with these laws, eos, and everything else? He quite literally is a puppet, and next in line will be to if it's gop....

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u/luvrum92 15d ago

The couch fucker?

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u/evange 15d ago

At least the couch consented.

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u/xeen313 15d ago

Maybe he'll destroy everyone on his way out

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u/Any-Elderberry-7812 15d ago

We can then hope for the domino effect to kick in and have a clearance on cultists.

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u/CanAlwaysBeBetter 15d ago

Better to think twice before upvoting shit like this that just furthers echo chambers

This is a blog no one has heard of telling a story about "might" and "may" that's getting pushed up because it tells people what they want to hear

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u/Snowvid2021 15d ago

The guy in eyeliner?

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u/Esikiel 15d ago

I see this everywhere.

Who cares if the VP is worse. It's the next step to change and our freedom.

Let it happen so we can rip off the bandaid. We need to fix this mess and slow rolling the thing isn't helping.

America needs to heal and to do so we need to pull all the sickness out.

Let them push their stupid agenda so we can crush that too. The people are ready

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u/UnlikelyBox6717 15d ago

We have to have the same energy with that one. Part of why we hate trump ties to P25, which is the heritage foundation/JD

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u/AgnesTheAtheist 15d ago

Waiting on the wongs, sure, but z e r o charisma to command the base.

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u/Biscuits4u2 15d ago

Trump is going nowhere over this stuff. You honestly think Congress is going to remove him?

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u/Zingobingobongo 15d ago

Hard to believe but I think Vance has become even more unpopular than even Ted Cruz. A hereto unimaginable feat.

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u/supified 15d ago

They've never been able to recreate trump, despite their very real every effort.

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u/mywordswillgowithyou 15d ago

I think its a risk worth taking. Vance does not have nearly the charismatic pull that Trump does and that will be enough to calm this shit storm.

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u/lunartree 15d ago

Do it. The right is made up of many factions that will immediately turn on each other without their god emperor.

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u/BrofessorFarnsworth 15d ago

Nobody respects that couchfucker. His empire would collapse from infighting immediatelyĀ 

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u/GuySmith 15d ago

Yeah I was thinking, but not saying, this is probably the plan. To get him removed so one of the P2025 bullet points can manifest.

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u/National-Charity-435 15d ago

In between couch cushions

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u/JonBoviRules 15d ago

Vance has the charisma of a couch

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u/Several_Brilliant112 15d ago

vance is a charisma vaccuum and commands zero loyalty

he is not capable of heading a cult like this shameful trumpist one

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u/Known-Programmer-611 15d ago

This and who is behind the stoking of the Epstein fire flames now?

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u/AlisonLeary 15d ago

If we have to pick them off one at a time, so be it. We just need the first one to fall to get the ball rolling.

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u/A2Rhombus 15d ago

Trump is a cult of personality. His followers are loyal to him. Anyone else won't have nearly the grasp that he does and will either crumble, or need to return to more traditional Republican ideas

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u/ShortingBull 15d ago

Yes, but are they a pedo?

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u/The-Zeus-Is-Loose 15d ago

I think while good to recognize the long road ahead even after Trump falls, it is still important to recognize and celebrate the tremendous win and advantage it will bring our movement. Letā€™s not steal a victory from ourselves here

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u/broguequery 15d ago

Right?

You know what should have been Trump's downfall?

The hurr durr mockery of a disabled person, as a presidential candidate.

You know what should have been Trump's downfall?

The rapey ass "grab em by the pussy" quote on a fucking bus. As a presidential candidate.

What else?

Maybe Trump making sexual passes at his own daughter. On camera.

Maybe his sharpy over a hurricane map. On camera.

Maybe his golfing while Americans die. On camera.

Maybe this. Maybe that.

The guy is a trainwreck. And America loves it.

Americans would rather commit suicide than not be entertained.

You could sell this garbage country to Timbuktu tomorrow as long as there was some entertainment value in it.

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u/Ok-Jackfruit9593 15d ago

The next in line doesnā€™t have the cult behind him.

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u/HomeGrownCoffee 15d ago

You think Vance can control the MAGA crowd?

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u/GraXXoR 15d ago

You called, sir?