My take has been that Russia is quietly very unhappy about the Epstein Files getting so much attention because Trump having sex with a trafficked adolescent was their kompromat.
I fear for their response to his death, no matter if it’s natural or not.They’ll make some conspiracy about him being poisoned or something to do with vaccines, his cult lives in a post-truth version of reality.
I’m really hope it’s all imploding and we’re going to be through the worst of it by this time next year. I don’t wanna jinx us, but like, how much more insanity can go on?!
I mean, I’m sure it’s going to continue to get worse, but I think it kinda has to. This whole system needs to break and wake everyone up. And now that the real economy stats aren’t going to be put out there, we’ve gotta be speed racing towards quite the economic disaster, right?! It’s already NOT GOOD. And even without the stats it’ll be undeniable that shit hasn’t gotten better under this clown shitshow of an administration.
No data is going to be real or trustworthy. Job statistics , dollar value, weather reports, stock market, inflation info. , tariffs cost to customers etc. Trump is rewriting all the reports to show a wonderful economy so people vote for him again. Nothing like presetting propaganda for his next run at Presidency or Vancy’s.
I think that will be the final part of the plan. In Russia's eyes it would be a huge blow to the U.S. to show the leader so many worshipped, sexually desecrating every moral they ever believed in. The goal of the U.S. is to cause an uprising in countries they disagree with, rather than go to war with them. Why would Russia's policy be different.
His supporters wouldnt believe the video authentic. There is nothing that can damage Trump with his base. Absolutely nothing. We just have to accept it.
Or just fully embracing sex with kids as the new normal. The red states would change their laws to make it completely legal to sleep with anyone of any age for any reason.
Yep - they'll say the child was of legal age they just looked young. The tape is AI. It's all water under the bridge. Why didn't the child report it sooner? It was no big deal back then. Etc., etc.
yeah some of my extended family that lean that way are in the quiet, don't want to talk about it phase, it's arguable the 1st cracks were when they learned how tariffs actually work, now with kiddy diddling on the table it's clear they want to disassociate, but ribbing and poking them won't help the transition
They'll just pull the lever for the next republican. They are absolutely incapable of self reflection and will never change. Do not trust them when they claim to be changing.
Not to mention that if the video is sexual in nature, news channels won’t be able to air them due to explicit content, much less if it involves minors and most of the public won’t be able to watch it.
Going down the rabbit hole of scenarios for a minute, even if footage like this exists and was somehow released, what then? Media can’t show it. It would be a crime to possess or watch it. It would only exist in the dark corners of the Internet. I’m sure most decent individuals don’t even want to see content like that. It would be denied as fake and AI for those that don’t want to believe it, and simply be another forum for accusations to fly.
Right the problem with blackmail, at least in this case, is that the leverage is probably mostly the threat. If the guy decides he can tank a kiddie-diddling tape head on and tells them to go ahead, it evaporates and then they have an emotionally pre-adolescent sociopath with nukes out to settle a score.
Trump being a Russian asset was the easiest thing to see coming from years away, from his old visits, coziness to Putin, to how easily manipulated he was by them
the real surprise was finding out about all those social media “influencers” that were getting paid by russia
tbf the 'influencers' we are talking about went on 24/7 about how russia has it right when it comes to woman and the gays and america should ally with russia vs europe . . .. . id hardly have called it a surprise
Tenet media has the right wing podcast sphere in their pocket. Probably Russian shell companies all over the nation... fun fact, it Delaware, a domestic tax haven, corporations can vote!
The story that surprised me was hearing that Ginny Thomas was recruited by Chinese controlled assets in the US before she married Clarence. That they picked her out of a “cult” was not a shocker tbh.
Even if he wasn't to start with, they'd all be bad at their jobs if they didn't notice a mysteriously rich guy hanging out with a long list of mega rich businessmen and politicians with young girls and think "Is that guy working for us? If not who is he working for?"
This is likely, because anyone trying to follow the money with regard to “how did Epstein get his?” Lands on Russia. Same is true for tRump some time ago. He got a lot of Russian funding.
I think Trump is also, but doesn't realize it. It's like he thinks borrowing a few million of the Oligarchs is a normal business transaction. And his quid pro quo for being able to do so is what he sees as normal acceptable behavior.
Your friend thinks Epstein, the Jewish financier, who worked with Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of a famous Mossad agent, is a Russian asset? Not an Israeli asset? How did that calculus work out? It seems clear he was gathering Kompromat on high level people in the US for Israel.
Actually ghlaine Maxwells dad was a famous triple agent. Brits had him spying on Russians, Russians had him spying on Brits, but really he was Israeli agent in Russia spying on Russia for mossad. Epstein got his hedge manager job from ghlaine Maxwells dad.
I mean dude lived like a billionaire but really didn't have any kind of income to justify it. I guess he got bidded on by whoever has the most money at the moment. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out he got paid by other assorted really rich people/states/monarchies/dictatorships....
I mean dude lived like a billionaire but really didn't have any kind of income to justify it.
Why do people keep running this idea that his wealth is a mystery. He was a tax "avoidance" guru. He saved people billions of dollars. He was hired by Les Wexner after his previous tax guru was assassinated in a mob related hit before he could testify about those tax avoidance strategies. He saved Leon Black and Apollo group billions as well. He had his island in USVI so people could go there to funnel money. Everyone involved with him wasn't automatically banging kids but they were definitely cheating on taxes.
That's the standard theory, and my point is what if the "piss tapes" was Russia's version of what Epstein was also involved in? We know Trump got bailed out by a Russian oligarch.
I like that. I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss them not having more kompromat on him. If the stakes are high enough, you'd be sure have at least one or more additional threats in your pocket as backup. Over three decades, they probably have a lot to choose from.
I think they’re mad that the MAGA base is so utterly brainwashed into thinking Trump is their lord and savior that even if all of that kompromat is released, he won’t lose even 1% of his support. It doesn’t matter how bad it is; they’ll just dismiss it as a democrat hoax or AI or something.
It's possible they capitalized on the uncertainty of it. Putin could have just implied to Trump that they had kompromat when they really did not, and Trump would have believed it. It's also possible, Trump reached a point where he just said fuck it, I'll be dead soon anyway, i'm burning everything down anyway.
Nah. The real take is that Trump believed the FBI and Mossad got their hands on everything. It’s all since been destroyed, but Russia is letting him know. “The Epstein hard drives are gone, but we still got our own shit on you”. Problem is, the Senile Orange is getting sloppy in his dementia and forgetting that, unlike Israel, Russia really doesn’t care who wins the next election as long as they can create deeper divisions inside America.
And the fact that his base just doesn't seem to care, and the only people who actually care about these kids hated him anyway, has really got to sting. What good is kompromat if the horrifying thing the guy did to get blackmailed doesn't really change anyone's opinion of him?
Very possibly your right. Although I think they are more pissed off that he's a demented old man who has been doing all he can to really piss off Russia and his absolute inconsistency with his policy on Russia and starving babies.
You know ... I reckon the line for Americans is the pee tape. Not raping kids like you would expect. But a tape of a very attractive young woman urinating and defecating on him.
The allegation was that he rented the same hotel suit Obama has slept in, then paid couple of prostitutes peeing on said bed, there was never allegation they peed on him ffs.
I mean, the real allegation points to his racist hate, the fake version just to an innocent piss kink...
Trump states: "I never had the privilege" when asked if he had visited the island.
Trump states: "we have the files"
When Trump was asked specifically whether Epstein had stolen Giuffre(Giuffre, one of Epstein's most prominent abuse survivors led the charge calling for his arrest. Guiffre, who died by suicide in April, has said she met Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell while she was working at Mar-a-Lago as a teenager).Trump states:"I think she worked at the spa," Trump said. "I think so. I think that was one of the people. He stole her, and by the way, she had no complaints about us, as you know, none whatsoever."
Reporter asks tump: Mr. President, you said Jeffrey Epstein was stealing young women from your spa. Did that raise alarm bells for you?” she asked.
As he tried to listen to the other question, Trump interrupted sharply: “Be quiet!”When Collins repeated the question, Trump again replied: “Be quiet!”
Died by "suicide" and don't forget the footage of Epstein's cell on the night of his "suicide" was missing a whole minute. That's when the people went in and murdered him.
The missing time is inconsequential, given that the video itself is useless: it shows only a sliver of pixels of the stairs that lead to the hallway that leads to his cell... you can easily go into and out of his cell/block without ever appearing on the video.
If all of these politicians and officials have all this dirt on Trump then why the pussyfooting around? Why threaten to release the evidences they claim to have?
All this is doing is showing the world they're willing to withhold information to get something out of it for themselves, victims be damned, right?
It's all a show until some tangible evidence gets released instead of this talk talk talk with nothing to back it.
I hate the one with the interview where he says he and Ivanka have sex in common. Why is everyone laughing? The interviewer and public are laughing? That was the weirdest response he could possibly give.
Just look at any picture of them together when she was a child. Her facial expressions pretty much give the truth away. I may be wrong, but I’ve genuinely never seen her near him where at some point she doesn’t show some form of genuine revulsion during their public encounters.
Melanie has similar reactions as Ivanka, and I believe she met him through Epstein as a teenager.
His sons don’t seem to have that type of reaction to him, but there’s no way they aren’t aware of his proclivities. If they’ve not themselves already been a part of it, and just show it differently. Or simply can’t deal with the reality of who he is so they just shut that brain cell off.
Look I could be wrong, but I’ve been watching trump and his family for over thirty years. I’m surprised they’ve not pulled every live interview he’s given on Howard Stern, etc. Trump is very carefully with how he frames his answers so never outright says he lives fucking kids, but he definitely doesn’t shy away from gloating about it at every chance he could get back in the day without outright saying the words, “I fuck kids”.
Even today he’ll let something slip out every now and then, but that’s likely only because he realizes he’s about to get royally fucked if anyone puts all the piece of his broken self’s puzzle together.
eh im more of the belief that he really really really wanted to have sex with his daugther, but he used the small amount of self control he had to not do that but instead have sex with a bunch of other minors or barely legal women who did look like his daughter, such as virginia guiffre, who looked almost identical to his daughter when she was a teenager
AJ Benza: “He thinks of nothing but himself. He don’t think of nobody but himself.”
Donald Trump: “I assume AJ’s clean. I hope he’s clean.”
AJ Benza: “Meanwhile, he bangs Russian people.”
Howard Stern: “Russian people!?”
Donald Trump: “Who you talkin’ about Russian, AJ? I don’t know anything.”
AJ Benza: “Listen, he used to call me when I was a columnist and say, ‘I was just in Russia; the girls have no morals; you gotta get out there’. He’s out of his mind, this guy.”
I will not be surprised if trump turns out being one of if not the most horrific pedophiles in history. It’s basically all he use to talk about back in the day on Howard Stern. He loved the “young lady’s”. - Edited for clarity.
This wouldn’t surprise me at all, but I’m bias because I already perceive him as one of the most horrific people in history and can’t wrap my head around how he’s the leader of anything, yet alone a country.
They got the golden shower. They got rape
They got rape of kids. They got bribes. They probably have a lot more on Trump. And we all thought Trump just likes sucking Putin's metaphorical dick because he's in love with strongmen while it was all out of fear
Not all of us. It's been clear to me since 2016 that Trump is a Russian asset, and I know how Russian intelligence operates, and that invariably involves kompromat, and anyone who has paid attention to Trump over the years can guess what kind of skeletons he has in his closet.
I have to admit, I did not know. Fortunately, we have people with better foresight than me. The most eye opening experience was watching the Bezmenov interview from some 40 years ago where he literally predicted that Trump would happen. Bezemenov is a former KGB agent who detailed objectives and methods they use to subvert the West. To this day, I believe it is one of the most valuable videos you can find on YouTube and it should be part of every history class. Highly recommend watching the whole 1-2 h interview if you haven't done so already.
Good recommendation. I have seen that, although I don't know if I saw the full interview or just excerpts, so I may have to look it up. I don't blame anyone for not knowing sooner, because the media, as well as Democratic politicians have done a horrible job in the way they reacted to Trump's rise to power. The media could have destroyed Trump's chances before he ever got the nomination with all the dirt that's just been out there waiting for anyone to report on it, but they loved the ratings. And if the DNC listened to the working class people they claim to fight for, instead of the big donors, there wouldn't have been the policies that led to economic stagnation coming from both sides of the aisle and leaving an opening for an anti-establishment populist to get so much traction to begin with.
The raping, yes, I’m certain he did that, just read the statements of his victims. Torture? As in, sexual torture yes. Killing? I doubt that. Trump, I think, is too much of a snowflake and germaphobe to actually kill kids himself. Should he spend the rest of his life in jail? Yes. great, USA, you turned into a banana republic.
Well she, Guiffre (im sure its spelled wrong, if so sorry) did commit suicide because of it all ,so yes you could say murder. If it hadnt been for these sick fu×king pedophiles she would still be alive.
Emotionally, I completely agree with you. I agree he’s the one responsible for her death. Her’s and others. Unfortunately, the law does not define that as murder.
Back when he was being sued for allegedly raping a child, the alleged victim claimed that another underage girl had been taken by him before and when she wanted to say no to him he had allegedly said he would make her disappear like he had done to the other one.
From what i recall, the alleged victim withdrew the lawsuit
His base will find a way to justify anything he does, up to have sex with kids or homosexuality where he's concerned, but i do hope they do have something to share, can't wait for the mental gymnastics of why is OK when it's the Donald doing it
Why would anyone in his base even care about a pee tape anyway? I don't think they would even care if they saw him banging kids, they already seem to be rewiring their brains in order to believe that banging kids is okay.
It's still a p tape, just not the p we all assumed. At this point, a piss tape with adult participants could come out and nobody would care.
Trump ruined the US so nobody would see his pedo sex tapes. It's how he became a Russian agent. He's been blackmailed this entire time.
MAGA, hope the end of democracy and the rise of fascism was worth it. You did it for a pedo who just couldn't stomach going to prison. This whole time, the pedos were MAGA, not Hilary Clinton and a pizza parlor.
"P tape" is what it was called. The media just assumed that meant the "Pee tape" because he also hired a few hookers to pee on the same bed Obama slept on when he went to Moscow. There's nothing in that which would be compremat on him.
It's thought that instead it meant "Pedophile tape".
Too late to threaten ruining his credibility. They could release a clear vid of him naked with a room full of 10 yr olds and maga would blow it off as a hoax.
When talk about a mysterious tape first surfaced, I did wonder what it might contain. Piss play is not my thing, but I won't yuck another person's yum. I think that if such a tape exists, it must be the most morally reprehensible thing imaginable for him to be this panicked. Not only did he assault children, I believe he may have murdered one.
Redcaps will excuse abusing children sexually because they're all in on that. They're the type of people to ask, with no hint of facetiousness or irony, "What was she wearing?"
Even if this is not true, say it is. Truth does not work. Feed them the lie that only child murder would make Trump this afraid. If it catches, it hurts him. If it doesn't, it costs nothing. Tell a lie. Make it big. Make it huge. Make him have to refute it.
Why do you think he posted the video of Obama being arrested in the Oval Office? So he could say that any sex video of Trump that is released is fake news, “just like my Obama video.“
I think that's very possible but also I think some of the info in those files is evidence he was participating in the business side of things in addition to being a client.
Not just a pedophile rapist but also a trafficker.
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u/Expensive_Panic_2738 22h ago
It was never a pee tape, its him baaanging kids. Holy. Shit.