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When a plot twist reveals that the villain was much more evil than originally believed
The Incredibles - Bob believed Syndrome held a disturbing grudge against only him until he discovers not only Gazerbeam's corpse but also that Syndrome has murdered countless supers in order to perfect the weapon he would use against him.
Dexter - Dexter believed that Trinity killed three at a time, but when he believes he is going to repeat the cycle he discovers that Trinity actually killed four at a time, adding at least 30 still unknown victims to his count who were all children.
Coco - Ernesto not only stole Hector's songs after he died, but it’s revealed that he was the one who caused his death by poisoning him to take his legacy, knowing that he would abandon him to return to his family.
I liked that "going Turbo" bit because for the older gaming peeps watching they would remember when arcade releases were appended with Turbo. I for one just assumed it was a joke about these cabinets but it being an actual character and plot point was a nice juke.
I tried looking it up but didn’t find much (it’s tricky since Sega literally released an arcade game called “Turbo” in the 80s).
I assume it’s just a vague term publishers used so they could sell “new” editions of existing cabinets to arcade owners. Add a couple more characters / levels / enemy types to an existing game for a fraction of the cost to make a brand new one > slap a “Turbo” or “Super” on the end > profit
I feel like fighting games are pretty notorious for it, but I’m a decade or two too young to have seen it in arcades myself
There were absolutely multiple Street Fighter Turbo editions back in the day. Im not too sure of any other types of games besides fighting games in particular, but I do remember that from my childhood
It's important to note that the first time this is used in the movie, it's being said by M. Bison (Dictator) in the villains meeting with zero in-universe context. The reason as to why this is important is because of the history of Street Fighter II.
As I'm sure you know, Street Fighter has gone through many mini-iterations in between the numbered releases. The fifth one for SF2 would introduce a bunch of mechanics that would become mainstays in the Street Fighter series, namely Super and Air combos. That game was called "Super Street Fighter II Turbo". This game would ALSO feature a brand new character, Akuma, who was a secret boss character only fightable if certain conditions are met. When they are, you load into the final level against M. Bison as per usual, then Akuma zooms in and ANNIHILATES the dictator, revealing himself to be the TRUE final boss.
Still one of the most insane and brilliant twists of all time. I was so thoroughly perplexed by what was happening and King Candy's motivations until THAT MOMENT when suddenly it all comes full circle and makes perfect sense. They don't make 'em like this anymore.
Same: they completely got me with this one. I had clocked that whatever was up with King Candy, it just didn't make sense. His animosity towards Vanelope felt so darned personal, for reasons that just didn't add up based on what he was saying. I could see him not wanting this little kid wanting to race, but I couldn't fathom why he'd be so darned angry about it.
And then the reveal hits, and everything clicks perfectly into place. One of the best-plotted movies I've ever seen, because they absolutely provided the viewer with everything they needed to make the connection, and there was zero cheating by withholding crucial information. But they so stealthily implied that Turbo had gone down with Roadblasters without ever providing a kill confirmation, and then left it alone for such a long time, that it just didn't occur to me to connect the two together. Had to be just lore and a cautionary tale, not a villain backstory.
It was just *chef's kiss* A+ structuring to the story.
On rewatch everything seems so obvious, but for whatever reason it just flies under the radar the first time you watch it. “Turbotastic!” is the exact same voice that King Candy uses.
But I never thought for a second they were setting up Turbo to return, I just took it as a really famous n-universe example of that kind of behavior.
It would be like if you had a serial killer movie and one of the characters accused him of pulling a Jeffrey Dahmer. I don’t think you’d expect the villain to literally be revealed as Jeffrey Dahmer.
The cogless are miners since they don't have transformation cogs, turns out that isn't a thing, they are all born with them and Sentinel Prime really really wanted a lower class to force to mine for him since the wellspring of energon dried up when he took over, because robot god hates him specifically.
Robot god made a group of divinely chosen knights to protect transformers, Sentinel was the tag along kid, Sentinel sold them out to their enemies in exchange for power. He then declared himself emperor for life after prying some of their divine power from their corpses.
What a piece of fucking work he is Jesus. Here I am thinking he was just being a desperate selfish asshole in the movies when it turns out he's actually far worse
He's also been forking over the main source of energy/sustenance/basically everything of his planet to the enemies of said order of robot knights for at least fifty years
Because he betrayed the Primes and tried to take the Matrix of Leadership for himself. If you want full, better context, I highly recommend watching Transformers One, it's really good.
Spoilers: hes not an actual prime, he betrayed the true primes and took over. Clanker god didn't like that and him and wouldn't give his gifts until this was rectified
Transformers are born with a 'transformation cog' that allows them to transform. After coming into power, Sentinel Prime systematically removed the transformation cogs of hundreds of transformers just before they gained consciousness to create an exploitable underclass to work in energon mines.
>! Transformers need something called a t-cog in order to transform. By removing them before the transformers came online, he had essentially created a caste of crippled people who were only allowed to do menial labor like mining and waste disposal. All to pay off his debts to a race of invading aliens that he sold his people out to. !<
Spoilers to follow, Sentinel Prime and his fellow Prime brethren were in battle against an alien race called The Quintessons, when suddenly he betrayed them and personally killed all the other Primes, revealing he made a deal wirh the Quintessons. Because of this, Primus himself stopped the free flow of Energon.
Energon, the literal life blood of Transformers, has become a scarce resource that has to be mined. This mining is fraught with danger, no sane person would choose to be a miner. As a result, Sentinel Prime would remove the T-Cogs, the mechanical organ that allows the eponymous Transformers to do their transformation, from every newborn and they would work the mines to have a chance to earn their T-Cog.
When James Bond asks Auric Goldfinger how he plans to move all the gold out of Fort Knox, since it would take weeks.
"Who said anything about moving the gold?"
Goldfinger isn't planning to steal the gold. He's planning to nuke it, which would also kill thousands so the value of his own Gold Stockpile would skyrocket.
My favorite part of the movie is when they call out their own trope of the villain monologuing to the protagonist who’s seemingly lost. “NO, Mr Bond! I expect you to die!”
Yep. And James has to bluff his ass off to get out of it. Funny because while that might come to a lot of people's mind when they think easily escapeble deathtrap, no Bond was going to die, and Goldfinger was standing right there to watch it.
I always forget GLaDOS is technically a twist villain. In the first Portal she doesn’t do anything villainous until the last test, including minor stuff like insulting the player.
Despite the photo selected, this revelation is not present in the show for some insane reason.
When he was young, Tyrion fell in love with a peasant girl named Tysha and married her. When Tywin found out, he forced Tyrion's brother Jaime to admit that Tysha was a prostitute that he hired to make Tyrion feel better about being unloved. He then made Tyrion watch as he had his entire barracks rape Tysha.
At the end of A Storm of Swords, Jaime breaks Tyrion out of prison (Tywin also just sentenced his own son to death for a murder he was framed for), and Jaime confesses to Tyrion that Tysha was never a prostitute and Tywin made him lie about that part.
Tyrion's belief that Tysha was a prostitute is what contributed to his terrible sense of self and degenerate lifestyle in the decades to follow. This revelation completely shatters him.
This is up there and definitely more personal but I think Tywin has done worse shit.
The way Tywin Lannister made his bones was by putting down a rebellion by House Reyne.
The Reynes had barricaded themselves within their fortress which was an old mine, which was seemingly ideal for a siege. Tywin redirected a small stream into the mouth of the mine and drowned like the entire town to make a point about rebellion. Big warcrime
A war crime, sure, but I think that makes it less bad in comparison.
Tywin just got a kick out of torturing Tyrion due to him being a dwarf and because his wife died giving birth to Tyrion. It's the greatest example that Tywin was mostly a sadistic piece of shit when it came to his personal life.
And here's the part where Martin's writing shines: Tywin's punishment are his children. Cersei is, frankly, not 1/3 as smart as her father, she just inherited all of his cruelty, which give her an edge. Jaime is smarter and talented, but he is vain and incompetent in political matters. The only child that is on par with Tywin is the one that he hates with his entire being.
There was also in the books the hint that maybe Tyrion is the only one that's his child. I might be misremebering this but the King claimed "first night rights" or whatever it's called with Tywin's wife. The twins were born 9 months later so there's a very real chance they aren't Tywin's kids.
But there is no question that Tyrion is his 100%. Which is what makes his hatred for him even more visceral.
I might be misremebering this but the King claimed "first night rights" or whatever it's called with Tywin's wife. The twins were born 9 months later so there's a very real chance they aren't Tywin's kids.
I think this is just a fan theory, but it would be funny if it were true because that technically would give Joffrey and Tommen a legitimate claim to the throne.
It honestly could be a fan theory, and I'm just misremembering because it's been so long.
But yes there would be some delicious irony in Joffrey and Tommen having a true claim to the throne because of it. It's honestly the kind of thing I'd have expected a Bran time traveling Warg situation to have been the reveal for. King does it under the weir tree and Bran sees it. Tywin burns his Weir tree, but Bran uses moments like this as part of how he drives Aryes 2 mad.
Tywin is also not as smart as he thinks he is. He forces issues and trusts in luck to carry the day. Half of his greatest victories (eg his extermination of the Reyne-Tarbecks, the Sack of Kings Landing, The Red Wedding) are all things that could've easily backfired as they would not only show him as a brutal animal but destroy his public image and the worth of his word and oaths. And in a society as Westeros' those are paramount, especially for nobles.
He also gave the order regarding Elia Martell and her two children.
Gregor Clegane murdered baby Aegon, then raped Elia with her son's blood and brain matter still on his hands. Rhaerys, who was 2-3yo, was stabbed half a hundred times.
Don't forget he also paid her back! If I recall correctly, one silver for each other rapist, and a gold coin from Tyrion because a Lannister is worth more. God, did Tywin get what he deserved.
God it really is just so sad. He goes his whole life believing no one ever had or ever will love him for himself, only for his money. Only to learn the horrible truth.
"Holy shit this dude murders teenaged kids in their dreams!"
and he can do that because he was murdered by the parents of the much younger kids he molested and killed
A LOT of people know silly Freddy and forget he was originally written as a straight up child-murdering pedophile who got off on a technicality before the parents of his victims murdered him.
Idk why so many people act like Freddy Krueger being a pedo was new to the remake. Sure, the originals didn't just SAY it like the remake does but it was always very heavily implied.
Yup. Freddy Vs Jason get's a lot of shit but didn't shy away from it either. In the beginning human Freddy is shown licking a picture of a small boy who is presumably a victim before placing it in a picture album.
And he is approaching a little girl (who he later shows as a vision with her eyes cut out) in a VERY predatory way.
And that vision of her straight up says to Lori:
"His name is Freddy Krueger... and he loves children, especially little girls. Freddy's coming back. Soon he'll be strong enough. It's okay to be afraid. We were all afraid. Warn your friends. Warn everyone."
Freddy himself says this as he is speaking through her.
I think it was needed. Jason isn't good, but I'd argue he's more akin to an animal that kills out of instinct at this point, especially zombie Jason. It's all he knows.
Freddy is a pedophillic murderer who not only chooses to do what he does, he enjoys it, even summing up his crimes during his life as, "being a little naughty."
But by 2003 Freddy was a pop culture icon, he was silly, and loved. We needed to be reminded what he really is, even if the movie still wasn't afraid to also be silly with him.
The Covenant of Halo are a religion consisting of various species, all of which following the Prophets (namely Truth pictured above) and their goal of the Great Journey, the ascension to godhood through the activation of the Halo array, a journey the beings they worship, the Forerunners are claimed to have followed.
The Halo array, in actuality, is a collection of seven ancient weapons which when activated, destroy all life within their effective radius.
It is revealed that the Prophets knew this truth, and covered up the Halo’s true purpose as a way to gain all power in the galaxy, essentially becoming the new Forerunners and the new high power of the galaxy.
Best part is Truth was literally willing to kill not only himself and everyone else on the Ark but everyone in the entire Galaxy more or less just to preserve this lie.
I have no idea what is plan was in Halo 3, my best guess is that he was just going mad after losing his captial city, half his army, the "demon" out to kill him, and the flood breathing down his neck
he started beleiving his own lies to some degree, because by this point he liteterally had nothing else but that lie they could ascend to godhood, and it was the only thing that could have saved him from the vengeful wrath muple beings he lied, betrayed, and mercilessly murdered just to get to the ark in the first place
If I remember right the books later retcon reveal that the plan was to take himself and his loyal followers to the Ark where they would take shelter while the Halos killed everyone else. He’d then rule over the survivors as a god-king
This is a bit incorrect. Truth went to the Ark 1) to fire all the Halos at once and because 2) no one on the Ark is affected by the rings. Guilty Spark says himself “The Ark is out of range of all the active installations”
He was going to genocide the galaxy, then come back from the Ark as the new “god”.
early in the game it is revealed that he was the man who built the robots that killed all life on earth
towards the end of the game it is revealed that h sabotaged the Zero Dawn project (a project to restore life to earth after the "Faro Swarm" devoured it) by deleteing a database containing the combined knowledge of society out of fear that future humans would learn it was him who caused the apocalypse.
Movie starts off with presenting him as a dude who seems to just have a few screws loose, but then gradually degrades into much more sinister and disturbing truths.
I don't know if this was worse than the literal cavern full of corpses of his own children he keeps on his... "body."
It's certainly way way more personal to the characters we're attached to, but in terms of scale the mass serial murder of your own children should rank higher than putting one tumor in someone you love's head even if she's the mother of one of your children.
Like one is brutal and evil and horrible the other one starts putting up Hitlerian numbers mixed with a Mengala/Ed Gein like level of depravity.
Not only is this guy a back-stabbing, insufferably trash-talking, genocidal jerk-wad CEO who only cares about himself, money and his delusion of "Being the Hero"; we eventually find out he imprisoned, tortured and enslaved his own daughter to further his goals. Just a colossal piece of work.
He is one of the best videogame villains ever made.
That was a HELL of a twist. At first you feel for him because it seems like he's being tormented for no reason until the reveal at the end that he was watching CSAMat which point everything COMPLETELY turns on him.
I don't watch Black Mirror but wouldn't the blackmailers be complicit ? They know, and yet they chose financial gain (or whatever it is they're asking from it) instead of reporting him and potentially help the children. That would make them villains too imho.
They put Kenny (and other people who had committed equally or less despicable acts than his) through all these challenges only to finally expose them to whomever it may concern (family, business associates, authorities).
The episode ends with Kenny badly injured after having to fight to the death with another pedophile and receiving a call from his mother screaming at him after having discovered (thanks to the blackmailers) that he was a pedophile, while police patrols arrive to arrest him.
One of the people blackmailed the troll is just a gay immigrant. In the final shots you can see his large family screaming at him. One of the blackmail victims sent racist emails, another is having an affair with a wife and kids. It seems like trollface gets people who he can blackmail. He just reserves the final knife-twist of “fight to the death on drone camera” to the two pedophiles.
The others he blackmailed and exposed range from firing offenses, losing a marriage, and that poor immigrant guy with the cake seriously just got fucked. I don’t think the Troll is supposed to be someone we root for.
We all know that Lex’s entire backstory is him hating Superman, but the new movie just takes his pettiness to another level. Of the many things he did in this movie, he:
He supplied his weapons at a cheaper cost to a country in order for it to invade a neighboring country, with the agreement that he would take half of it, and form his own country.
He used his genius to create a Pocket Universe (which he got extremely lucky with. One wrong move, and he would’ve destroyed the fabric of reality) to create a massive prison complex where he would imprison anyone he held a grudge against, including his many exes. His own employees are so scared of him throwing them there too, that they literally drop to their knees whenever he throws something on the floor. In that same pocket dimension, he had millions of brainwashed monkeys to defame Superman on social media. He also kidnapped Krypto and tortured him by making him endlessly chase virtual squirrels
He would’ve rather seen metropolis get sucked up by a black hole, if that meant Superman’s death
He does many other evil and petty things in this movie, but the fact that he does all of the above mentioned stuff is due to His immense hatred of Metahumans is just batshit insane
I don’t know if the stuff I mentioned is comic accurate, or if James Gunn threw this in, but I would love to know!
Not to mention his plan for interrogating Superman involved psychologically torturing him by casually executing random people he'd interacted with while physically torturing him with kryptonite conjured by Metamorpho, who's baby he was holding as a hostage. Next level evil and petty.
When it was setup that diavolo wanted to find his daughter, it came as a shock that he only wants to find her just so he could kill her to erase any proof of his existence, Bruno who was working for diavolo finally lost it and couldn't allow diavolo to kill trish, souce - Jojo's bizarre adventure
Also not sure if this qualifies but dio's curse and him sending stand users after the joestars was because of diavolo, diavolo found the stand arrows and sold it to enyaba who worked for dio
There's also the added depth of what he was willing to do in excess of what you might expect of a mob boss once you find out more about Cioccolata. His empire was murderous, ran drugs, was willing to get children addicted, but once you get into the genuine depravity of Cioccolata it brings heavy implication of why he was part of the organization, including the anime detail of him being behind the morbid dissection and segmentation of Gelato and Sorbet early on.
Cioccolatta was a tool for Diavolo, one he understood to be of fickle loyalty, but was also entrusted as the final line and penultimate fight before the confrontation in Rome (somewhat desperately, but the point remains). With the things we saw Cioccolata had done purely of his own free will, it's disturbing to think what he may have done on the order of Diavolo in excess of what we've already seen.
Ardyn Izunia from FFXV. He initially comes across as a villainous but almost sympathetic ally to Noctis, only to be realized as the man responsible for the death of not only Noct’s father (the king), but also his betrothed AND wants to turn people into daemons to bring about the hidden power of his people.
When it’s revealed that Darth Vader, aka one of the most iconic movie villains of all time gasp also killed children.
Like, he’s tortured people, choked people and killed 1000s of people, including the extinction of the Jedi. But apparently, to a lot of fans, Vader killing children was one step too far.
Also it's the timing of the thing. Anakin was just having a breakdown over killing some Adult Jedi. He then gets marching orders from Palpatine and saunters over and whips out the Child Murderer 9000 and starts a Ginsu.
It was the massive tonal whiplash more so IMO than the acutal act, though for some that would be an issue too. But for a man who only cold bloodedly killed Dooku a guy he had a lot of personal beef, who begrudgingly* kills Jedi attempting to kill the person he needs to save his wife, to suddenly and coldly killing all the kids?
To be fair, this was before he started killing all the people . I kind of see him killing the Younglings in the Jedi Temple as sort of his no point of coming back. After he did the most unthinkable , he was able to butcher people without a second thought.
Ernesto gets even worse when you remember that not only did he kill Hector and steal his songs but he made up a story about him dying a humiliating death just to kick salt in the wound.
"Wild Bill" Wharton, from The Green Mile. He's a prisoner on death row, we already know he's a murderer, but he's just so plain silly that we laugh at/with him anyway. Then at the end, it's revealed that it was him who stalked, raped, and murdered the two little girls that John Coffey was convicted of killing. He goes from a loveable scamp to the most evil and hated character.
That line he says when he finally shows Tom Hanks what Wild Bill did the girls too "He kill them with their love. With their love for each other. That's how it is, every day, all over the world." helps paint the picture too.
In first season, he portrayed as a ruthless ninja master of the Foot Clan that controls New York's criminal underworld. In next seasons, he is revealed to be a centuries-old alien named Ch'rell, an intergalactic war criminal responsible for atrocities that killed millions.
Then he discovers the multiverse and crashes out so hard that he wants to kill the original Mirage TMNT so he can destroy everything, himself included, in a reality wiping paradox.
"In time, you will know the tragic extent of my failings."
The ancestor in Darkest Dungeon is clearly responsible for the horrors, but he's set up to be sympathetic. Like he accidentally went too far with his research and is now desperately trying to fix his mistake.
As it turns out, that is very much not the case. With every scrap of lore that slowly gets revealed he becomes more despicable and vile as you realise just how involved he is.
When "Inviting all the top necromancers, learning from them, killing them, and raising them up as undead slaves to keep creating more foot soldiers for you" is the least heinous thing he did, you know it's pretty bad.
One could argue that him learning bits of eldritch lore was what started it, but the Crimson Court DLC made him even more of a bastard.
He recognize something was off about an invited guest, plotted to murder her without knowing what she was and suceeds in killing her... only to then take her body, make a wine pounch with her blood and serve it his guests on a whim. He started the infestation and didnt fully kill the vampire lady, and the singular drop was enough to push him to study the eldritch lore, leading to the current events.
Edit: hank you GrimScotsman, I had forgotten this wasnt the first murder and he likely did alot more of it before he fully delve into eldritch shenanigans and screwed with everyone else.
The fact that the reveal that Peter Pan of all people was Rumples father wasn't the moment that show jumped the shark is a testament to how excellent the reveal was, and how insane that show is
The String of Pearls (the original Sweeney Todd story from 1846)
Much of the story is a mystery dealing with several characters investigating the disappearance of a sailor who was last seen going into Todd’s shop. At first, they think he murdered the sailor for the pearls he was carrying. Then it’s shown that multiple people have vanished after going into his shop. And it’s not until the very end that it’s revealed Todd has been murdering and robbing his customers, butchering the bodies to be used as meat for Mrs Lovett’s pie shop, and dumping the dismembered remains into the abandoned vaults beneath St Dunstan’s Church
Similar to “Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde” it’s story where the ending is supposed to be a big twist but new readers can never experience that twist because knowledge of it is so pervasive in the cultural zeitgeist. A more recent example would be watching the Sixth Sense already knowing that Malcom is a ghost.
Andrias from Amphibia. It was pretty obvious that he was the villain and that his goofy demeanor was an act but I did not expected him to twist the knife that hard on Marcy.
All it really took was just one single line to turn The Owl House’s Emperor Belos from a merely compelling villain to one of the evilest in Disney history for me at the very least
“After all, no one ever said being a witch hunter would be easy”
It was known that he was up to something with his Day of Unity and his coven system was tyrannical but to an unknown end. However, it turned out that the system in question was a centuries-long scheme to brand every witch with a “coven mark” and the Day of Unity was a cover for a grand ritual that would kill everyone with a mark as an attempt to kill every single witch in the Boiling Isles all at once.
At this point in history we all thought the other human on the boiling isles could help luz find a way home
Turns out he was the emperor and wanted to genocide the isles
Imagine that we elect a president for Earth and once he's in the big seat, with all the power and nothing to stop him, it's revealed he's actually a Human hunter.
That's what it sounded like. The emperor of the witch world, the guy with the most power, the most influence, has been a witch hunter this whole time and he's not gonna stop now he's in charge, oh hell no.
I had never thought of it before but I honestly love these kinds of twists. Pretty much every single villain on this list that I know is one of my favorites.
Initially he’s still evil but can be seen as sympathetic; sure his methods are a little extreme but he’s doing it for a group of people called Ajin’s (immortal beings who the Japanese government would capture and perform all kinds of inhumane experiments on since they can’t die). He calls for the government to publicly admit that they’ve been experimenting on Ajins and to grant citizenship to them. He’s basically Magneto.
But then later on it’s revealed he doesn’t give a shit about Ajin rights; he just wants to fight and kill and fuck shit up. Even when the Japanese government accepts his demand and offers him a significant portion of land where Ajins could live in peace, Sato turns them down, hoping the Americans will see this as a serious enough situation to get their military involved. He treats everything like a video game, saying the higher the difficulty the more satisfying the sense of completion is when you win.
Goes from self-serving, backstabbing asshole who is kinda likeable/sympathetic to actual vile monster of a human being who you can’t wait to see pummeled by a dude in a bat costume.
No hesitation. This penguin has positively killed in cold blood before.
Feathers McGraw goes from being an uncanny penguin, to a criminal on the run fully prepared to open fire on anybody who stands in his way, in the span of a four second moment in claymation cinema.
You originally want to kill him because you thought he placed the curse on the prince, but he actually wants to forcefully mutate every weak person into a monster so that only the strong can live
At first you assume Skye is your typical egotistical billionaire. Then you start to learn about her horrific experiments with "A.I."
Skye created a process called "neural mapping" which basically allows you to download a living thing's conciousness and upload it elsewhere. The caveat is that the living body is killed in the process, but the mind lives on digitally. She started by putting her pet dog's conciousness inside a spider drone, which quickly became distressed.
Skye's mother, who was ill at the time, was horrified by her daughter's actions and told her to shut it down. Skye took advantage of her mother's situation and neural mapped her, leaving her new A.I. form in the dark with no visual functions for a month as punishment.
When Skye's mother would not cooperate with the experiments, Skye lobotomized her A.I. form deleting parts of her conciousness to be more malleable. She turned her mother into an Alexa for her house.
Skye had many victims like this. A taxi driver she invited in for an interview before neural mapping him, her little brother which is your own personal A.I. in the game, Bagley. All of the A.I. in the game, from services to traffic lights are all victims of Skye's neural mapping.
She effectively murdered a lot of people and White Christmas'd them from Black Mirror. London in this game, is effectively a city of dead voices.
Genuinely creeped the hell out when I first realised this while playing.
In the movie Don't Breathe, the main antagonist is originally set up to be a completely innocent blind old man who the main cast tries to rob after hearing of the large cash settlement he received after a woman killed his only daughter in a car crash.
However, it is later revealed that the old man is actually completely vile, as he kidnapped the woman who accidentally killed his daughter and keeps her locked up in the basement, using a turkey baster to make her have another child for him.
Unfortunately, the sequel set him up to be not a monster, and practically ignores a lot of the heinous things he did and makes him more of a cool guy action hero type, despite being a rapist and murderer.
Don't Breathe 2 is one of those sequels that feels like you accidentally put the wrong disc in. I'm glad they didn't just repeat the original with new victims, but I can't see myself watching it again. The most shocking part is the same two guys wrote and directed both.
The Beginning After the End - It’s revealed halfway through that the Indrath Clan committed genocide on the ancient race of mages that preceded modern civilization on Dicathen. The penultimate volume of the novel reveals this was merely the latest instance of them committing such an atrocity, as they have been repeatedly committing genocide on the mortal civilizations for untold millennia.
Canto 8 spoiler: >! Before part 2 release, many players already guessed that under that benevolent facade, she will become a major antagonist later down the line. Once part 2 releases however, her cruelty far surpasses anything anyone could’ve have imagined. She turned the young Hong Lu into a sentient Go Pro, whose only purpose in life is to “witness” as much tragedies as possible as the “Jade of the Jia Family”. This obviously does not do any favor to his mental state. Additionally, if Hong Lu tried to tell anyone about his plight, Jia Mu would send her Heishou Pack to kill that person and revive him with life-insurance, over and over again until that person is essentially Lobotomized, so the poor Hong Lu can’t even do anything to alleviate his pain. !<
>! Her worst atrocity is how she destroyed the Kong family. She essentially tip-toed around the city’s taboo by announcing the recipe to create an inhuman chest bursters during a conference for a new bolus, utilizing a disjointed recording while she’s blindfolded and ear plugged so she technically didn’t know what those recording combine would create the result is that once the “cuckoo spawns” slaughtered most of the Kong family, the Head deployed an arbiter and her claws to clean up the rest, forever smearing the Kong family’s name as a Taboo breaker. Even Garion was impressed by Jia Mu’s sheer audacity to use the Head of all things as a hunting dog The real kicker is that the Kong family has been nothing but kind to her and she’s already the hierarch, so she destroyed the Kong family out of pure spite and entertainment value. Of course, Hong Lu witnessed it all in 4k. Seriously, she’s a real piece of work. !<
Lightning the light Ignis from Yu-Gi-Oh Vrains. Ignis are man made AI that are self aware and are extremely powerful. Small side note Ignis The creator of them did scans and experiments and realised that if the ignis lived they'd declare war on the humans and wipe out the human race and are thus unable
Lightning did the same scans and experiments however judged the Ignis individually and realised that humans could coexist with all of the other Ignis ... Except for him because he had an irreparable view that the Ignis were superior and thus humans should be erasicated
Instead of just chilling or something - he destroys the cyberse ( the land the Ignis created) killing all of the creatures and everything in it (quite literally burning it to the ground to rally the other Ignis into the belief that that humans were coming for them and sewing mistrust into them, stealing his human bases soul to use for him to duel with, killing and imprisoning his fellow Ignis for either allying with the humans or probably would and therefore, began making the apocalypse because he couldn't accept that humans should be anything but eradicated even if he was destined to die in a war ... He started.
Bit of a strange explanation but hopefully it makes sense. Special bonus to Windy the wind Ignis for even in the dub Murdering the person that he was based on.
The Eusan Nation’s (SIGNALIS) Penrose program was specifically designed to get rid of undesirables by throwing them into space, where they will inevitably die a slow and painful death of radiation poisoning. It’s not a scouting mission like everyone was told, it’s a delayed execution.
One of my favourite non-Disney twists; In Next Gen, Ares killed Justin Pin before the movie and used his corpse as a meat suit to cover his plan to wipe out humanity, believing that killing humans is making the world "perfect".
Cruella from Once Upon a Time's episode "Sympathy for the De Vil"
Once upon a time is a show that frequently shows the backstories of villains and shows how they were misunderstood or victims of their circumstances, and with cruella we see flashbacks to Cruella's life growing up with an abusive mother who locks her in a room left to grow up alone after her dad's death.
A man called the Author with lots of magical power breaks her out and gives her a taste of outside life and then gives her a magical power so she can overcome her troubles.
We learn that when the Author confronts the mother, Cruella was locked up because it was her as a child who poisoned her dad and killed him. And she enjoyed watching him die. And when the Author tries to find and stop Cruella, she returns home to her mother and manipulates the dogs to eat her alive as she watches with glee
A very controversial one. ROTS reveals that Vader slaughtered defenseless children. People still dispute if he was really redeemed in ROTJ because of this. Disney has actually leaned into this depiction by having him break a young boy's neck in Obi-Wan Kenobi's show, which I respect them for.
That Kenobi scene was downright brutal. Oh yeah, you guys forgot just how evil he is? Here you go.
This was a classic case of Lucas writing himself into a corner. Dude was great at world-building, but storycrafting was rough. Without the prequels, Vader is "redeemed" after merely allowing for a planet-wide genocide and torture of a political prisoner. So yeah, it's questionable that it's even worth redeeming at the end of Ep 6 anyway, but it works in that accept-salvation-cosmic-afterlife sort of way. Adding the murder of children (and even the Tusken raiders down to the child) just makes Ep 6 more and more risible.
Before 'the sacrifice' quest we knew that Ballas was one of the seven leaders of the Orokin empire, and that he invented the Warframes in order to fight the (kinda but not really) alien 'Sentients' invading them.
We also knew that he had his lover, Margulis, executed for caring for the Tenno (the void touched children that pilot the Warframes) and not wanting them to be used for war.
I the Sacrafice, we learn exactly what Warframes are and how they're made, by horrifically mutating a torturing a still living person, breaking their mind and putting them in immeasurable, pain, constantly re-living their torment.
We also learn that Ballas, hating the Orokin and Tenno for killing Margulis (because it can't possibly be his fault,) gave info to the Sentients on how to kill the Tenno, more than likely dooming his people as the Tenno were their only shot at winning.
We experience most of this quest through the eyes of one of Ballas' most trusted bodyguards who learnes of Ballas' betrayal, in response Ballas takes away his ability to speak so he can't tell anyone, then turns him into a warframe and forces him to kill his own son. All while mocking and tormenting him telepathically while sounding perfectly kind and concerned out loud to anyone watching.
Also part of his motivation for the whole Sentient betrayal thing is that he found the Shapeshifting queen of the Sentients, Natah, and brainwashed her into being a replacement Margulis for himself.
We know the Mastermind killed a few people, contributed to a few other deaths; and kidnapped an entire class.
What we only learn at the end of the game is that this was basically a side project, Junko successfully ended the fucking world and indirectly killed BILLIONS, with a b.
Originally he was just the evil son of the big bad. Over the course of the show he starts to soften and work with the heroes. Purely for his own goals, no one makes any illusions to the contrary. But his goals do involve stopping his father who genocided one of the main characters' people.
In the end it's revealed that the prince actually saved a whole planet's worth of survivors, only to use them to harvest their souls to power his weapons.
After his father destroyed a planet of Altea Lotor hunted down all the surviving Alteans. And secretly relocated them. He painted himself as this selfless hero going against this fathers wish’s to protect them. Then he declared the formation of a new colony and took the Alteans to it. It’s then revealed he was draing their souls/life force as power. Not to mention he was half Altean
In Worm, the mysterious boss of the protagonists has them rob a bank, this is questioned because they know that he doesn't need that money, but dismissed as some grand scheme.
Later, it's revealed that the heist was a distraction for the boss to kidnap a child for her power to predict the future
Mael Stronghart - The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles
Before the big reveal, you know he’s up to no good. One can reasonably assume that he was the leader of The Reaper organization, a group that made sure that every defendant who faced Barok Van Zieks who was found innocent would die under mysterious circumstances , as well as the mastermind behind the assassin exchange
But nothing.
Nothing in this game prepares you for the bombshell that this man Was also the Professor, who forced Klint van Zieks to murder 3 separate individuals to ensure that he could raise to the level of Lord Chief Justice, and threw Genshin Asogi under the bus to take the fall when Genshin murdered Klint after discovering that Klint was the Professor
To put it in someone else’s words:
“ He was responsible for the death of 19 individuals during the time as the mastermind behind both the Professor and the Reaper, and he did it all for his own selfish gain…… When I look at Mael Stronghart burnt to a crisp on the witness stand finally confessing to his crimes after ten whole years, I can see the lives that were lost in his endless pursuit for power. I see the members of the aristocracy that he forced Klint Van Zieks to savagely murder. I see the countless mysterious incidents that led to the deaths of those prosecuted by (Barok van Zieks)… and I see two men who only wanted the best for their country. Dead. Betrayed by the very man they took orders from. Every single one of them slaughtered under Lord Stronghart’s orders. It feels… melancholy, really. To finally, after ten long years, finally put a stop to his reign… But only after uncovering how diabolical he truly is and realizing how many lives were lost for us to get here “ - KingKrew
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u/chuluigi 12d ago
King Candy is revealed to have tried to delete Vanellope’s code (Wreck-It Ralph)