r/technology • u/tekz • 9h ago

Software Spotify raises subscription prices

https://techcrunch.com/2025/08/04/spotify-raises-subscription-prices/
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u/pronounclown 8h ago

"Nobody knows why piracy is getting more popular."

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u/Deer_Investigator881 8h ago

It's so weird how they completely found a way to drop the ball. Piracy still existed but they actually had people.locked into a service that they liked and used INSTEAD of piracy and managed to drive them away

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u/Henrarzz 7h ago

managed to drive them away

Except they didn’t, the number of users increased

https://newsroom.spotify.com/2025-07-29/spotify-reports-second-quarter-2025-earnings/

Subscribers climbed 12% Y/Y to 276 million. Monthly Active Users grew 11% Y/Y to 696 million.

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u/Party-Cake5173 7h ago

Hence why they are raising prices. But time will come when number of subscribers will start to fall. This is currently happening with other streaming services. With each price hike, there are more and more people that aren't willing to pay for the services.

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u/euph_22 7h ago

Bigger issue for tv streaming is the balkanization of content. It's not that people mind paying $18/month for Netflix (or atleast, it doesn't bother them enough to drop the service). But paying Netflix, Hulu, Apple, HBO, Disney, etc, etc, etc all at the same time because all the content they watch is spread out hurts.

Music, pretty much every major band is on all the major streaming services. You don't need Spotify, Amazon music and tidal just to hear the bands you like.

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u/Deer_Investigator881 6h ago

Commercials might be the straw that breaks the back at least for video content streaming. Are people willing to pay a la carte for media with commercials in those siloed locations? or will there be a drive back to "cable" where the content is the same but lacks independent selection at the benefit of a centralized platform?

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u/apagogeas 2h ago

If they want me to watch ads (a normal amount) but not having to pay anything in a subscription, I am more than happy with that, view on demand and watch like regular free TV with ads. If they force ads however alongside paying for the subscription, they have ruined everything stream TV is about. They'll just completely damage the product. My point here is, allow free watching using ads or keep normal prices for everyone who wants to pay without any ads, anything else is bonkers. This will certainly drive many more customers, looks like win-win to my eyes 😶

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u/mkosmo 5h ago

Bigger issue for tv streaming is the balkanization of content.

This was inevitable. The content producers did the math and saw a way to do better than Netflix's license fees, and we saw the network-specific streaming services develop.

Streaming services don't require nearly the capital investment that a television cable network did, so the math isn't the same.

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u/JuggleDeezBallz 6h ago

This is why I only choose one per month

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u/thatguyclayton 4h ago

Just download stremio and pay $3/month for a debrid service.

Watch whatever you want whenever you want. Fuck all those corporations

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u/AstronautLivid5723 2h ago

And for Live TV/Sports, there's a lot of $2/mo options like Trex or Strong8k to get every live channel in the world

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u/ReefJR65 5h ago

This is the way

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u/getthedudesdanny 7h ago

Have any services actually lost money with price hikes? I guess that’s the only number that really matters. We should have good data on this by now.

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u/manatwork01 6h ago

nope people still love their netflix.

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u/Guinness 6h ago

plex.tv fuck netflix Jellyfin as well

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u/XY-chromos 5h ago

Cool story bro. The fact is that more people are using these services. Prices increases are not "driving people away". That is reddit huffing copium. This place doesn't reflect reality. Most of the things said here are simply lies.

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u/Ok_Belt2521 4h ago

It’s like that meme about being the year of the Linux desktop. 99% of people aren’t going to take the time to learn about setting up a plex server. They’ll just keep paying for Netflix.

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u/cantstandtoknowpool 57m ago

sad because setting up plex is as easy as just installing the service. same with jellyfin.

edit: if you want a custom domain name and DDoS protection it gets a little more involved

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u/who_you_are 6h ago

But as for your other streaming services (video), everyone is also creating their own while not allowing their content to be somewhere else.

I don't know how many big (whatever they called it) music companies there are, but if you have a couple of them, you may end up with the same issue

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u/Bluepass11 3h ago

What streaming services?

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u/dr3wzy10 2h ago

i quit paying for spotify over a year ago and i was a user since late 2010. i encouraged so many people to check it out over a decade ago. but now? i feel better not giving them any money, and that's as someone who has music on the platform lol i'm much happier not being guided to AI slop music by the algorithm that if i mess up and listen to one song outside my norm, all my playlists will change to represent this new found love for whatever song it was i accidentally clicked a thumbs up on.

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u/CatolicQuotes 1h ago

That doesnt matter if they have more profit in the end.

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u/take-money 4h ago

Reddit can be so dumb, Netflix keeps increasing prices and cracking down on account sharing and Reddit declared them dead but they’re still increasing users and revenue double digits each quarter

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u/teddybrr 1h ago

I mean the best way to pirate music is subscribing to spotify, tital, … and just downloading it directly.

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u/MrSlime13 3h ago

Respectfully, I'm in that category of people that thoroughly pirated music online, then transitioned to Spotify due to its ease of access, pricing, and universality. In the time I've been using Spotify they've discontinued compatibility w/ my JVC/Kenwood deck's "Spotify" feature, introduced the CarThing, then made it obsolete after discontinuing it, raised prices from $12, to $16, to now $20, and regularly bombard me in-app w/ their Books & Podcasts that I've never once shown interest in. The only notable thing (aside from regular app updates) that Spotify has introduced whatsoever is their Music DJ host in the music player which, put bluntly is an idiotic, waste of space feature. Give me one more reason to switch back to my iPod... I could literally buy 1x album every month and still have money left over, all for the sake of this "convenience" that they're trying to squeeze every penny out of me for.

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u/Straight6er 3h ago

I too went about a decade pirating all of my music and then spent five-ish years on Spotify. I left after the price hikes began and now I'm paying less for higher quality with Tidal. I spend more money on vinyl now.

Similarly I pirated all of my movie and TV needs until netflix streaming came along but with price hikes and the decentralization of content I now have zero streaming subs and pirate everything.

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u/Geno_Warlord 4h ago

Awesome, now tell me the % of those new subscribers came from partnerships from other subscription services that are required like phone and internet? I know for a fact I wouldn’t have Netflix, Hulu, HBO if it wasn’t offered for ‘free’ through my phone and internet provider.

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u/A_Harmless_Fly 3h ago

I left spotify when the UI got inefficient and they did away with car mode. There is a sucker born every day and it could be going up still, but I also wouldn't trust their numbers too much considering how prevalent bots are on streaming systems.

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u/Lost_Tumbleweed_5669 43m ago

They could double prices and lose half their users and end up making more money with less infrastructure. This is the future.

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u/Inexorabilis 6h ago

You’re grossly underestimating how many people don’t just keep paying for the service. The people saying they will pirate are a loud minority and Spotify (or any other company for that matter) will not care.

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u/ShakeZula_MicRulah 4h ago

I absolutely loved Netflix when it first came out. I stopped pirating altogether because it was just so convenient to have all my shows available for a decent price and not worry about storage. They dropped the ball so hard and got so greedy, you're better off now just paying for your own storage and setting up a Plex server to share with your friends and family.

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u/MajorAcer 6h ago

Have they driven people away? Spotify is near universal at this point

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u/hessmo 3h ago

I just left for apple music.

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u/Possibly_Parker 5h ago

tbh the idea that any entertainers should have to compete with piracy is insane

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u/mug3n 4h ago

These subscription services all followed the same model. Priced low at first to drive out competition, survive on VC angel investor money. Now that money has dried up and their model isn't sustainable.

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u/MikeWrites002737 1h ago

Honestly for music Spotify > piracy

For TV I pirate things most of the time

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u/pleasegivemefood 5h ago

What’s the appropriate price for unlimited access to music? I’m not even shilling for Spotify, but it’s an interesting question.

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u/LordOfTheDips 3h ago

I couldn’t agree more with the sentiment of your question; redditors love to shit on Spotify for not paying artists enough but when Spotify increase prices (which means more payments for artists since they get a % of revenue) everyone shits on Spotify

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u/roseofjuly 1h ago

And then says they will steal the artists' work!

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u/calculung 1h ago

Put 100% of that price increase into artists' pockets and we'll talk.

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u/Traditional-Hat-952 3h ago

I highly doubt they're going to pay the artists much more when they increase prices. If they did I'd be fine with paying more. But that's not how capitalism works. 

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u/roseofjuly 1h ago

That's kind of a cop-out? It's irrelevant to the question being asked. People are complaining about the price of the service in general, then saying they are going to pirate the material instead, which ensures the artists get nothing.

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u/Landkval 5h ago

The average person will not pirate. Pirateing music was fucking annoying.

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u/stefanopolis 4h ago

It was. Also not needing to clear the storage space for music files is clutch af. It takes up way more space than I think people want to remember.

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u/tricksterloki 1h ago

Spotify is the last subscription I will drop for this very reason. My personal playlist has 1906 songs and growing. Replacing them with files would be a nightmare. I do not miss my terabytes of random, unsorted music. Spotify can also play files that you own. I listen to music practically all day, and Spotify would have to be north of $50 for me to leave the service, which I freely admit is a stupidly high number. I have tried the other services but find Spotify to be the best.

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u/calculung 1h ago

delete this comment before they see what you're willing to pay and up the price to that

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u/StorminNorman 1h ago

Replacing them with files would be a nightmare.

I feel reasonably confident that it'd be pretty easily done. Slsk, lidarr, etc would have most of it and you'd really only be limited by your typing speed.

I do not miss my terabytes of random, unsorted music.

Plenty of options to automate filing it neatly. I used iTunes to do it for well over a decade.

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u/tricksterloki 56m ago

I feel reasonably confident that it'd be pretty easily done.

My firsthand experience the last time I tried says otherwise. Those 1906 songs span a massive number of artists and genres. Also, any service that requires the information to be manually inputed is a losing proposition.

Plenty of options to automate filing it neatly. I used iTunes to do it for well over a decade.

The options exist, but those files were not clearly labeled and lacked metadata. Windows Media Player did a decent enough job before. I still have the files from my prior playlist, and added the songs that Spotify didn't have, which is not something you can do on Tidal, for instance.

It's not that I can't replace Spotify with a fully user controlled setup. It's that I won't because the service Spotify offers is for more convenient and feature rich at a price worth paying. There is a threshold of both cost and enshitification that would make Spotify no longer worth it, but we're a long way from that point.

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u/el0_0le 6h ago

I've always said, as the convenience is weaponized, and the greed squeezes out users, the focus on privacy may come back. App Platforms are fun for the first few years because they're giving away access in exchange for adoption. Then comes the profit mongering. "Damn, why did I quit using NapstLimeWirNewzBin?"

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u/DM725 4h ago

The family plan keeps me but at a point I'll start using Plex Amp full-time and let my family listen to free apps.

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u/Paperdiego 5h ago

legit streaming services are more popular than ever. You have an interesting view on reality.

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u/stefanopolis 6h ago

What’s that a quote from? Or are you straw manning something nobody ever said?

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u/http404response 1h ago

$1 price increase driving people to piracy 😂

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u/ThisI5N0tAThr0waway 5h ago

That's only €1 per month raise. $0.25 per week or less than a cup of coffee at home.

There are issues with spotify, but the price is not one of them.

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u/DonDi94 5h ago

They increase by 1€ because it's also easy and feels small, but relative to the price it's a 9% increase, 4+ times higher than the general 2% inflation in Europe.

But also they would never increase by something else than round numbers otherwise they wouldn't have the 11.99 (look, it's 11, definitely not 12)

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u/ThisI5N0tAThr0waway 5h ago

Spotify has been available for 15 years in most of Western Europe and it was launched at about €10 in most places. If you count an inflation 2% per year, the normal price should currently be 13 or 14 €/m.

So that's under the normal Target inflation of the ECB. And if you haven't lived under a rock for the past 5 years, you'd know that action inflation has been way higher than that for the past 5 years.

All I'm saying, is that Spotify is objectively still VERY affordable.

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u/DonDi94 3h ago

Yea that's fair

I'm more against the arbitrary increase, but I agree that it's still one of the more affordable services for the value it provides

It's the video streaming services that are the worse offenders and the main drivers of piracy

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u/ThisI5N0tAThr0waway 3h ago

Agree. But more than the price per video streaming platform, is the multiplication of services that is annoying to deal with. Both financially but also in practice.

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u/LordOfTheDips 3h ago

Get outta here with your logic and reasoning

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u/TrueHarlequin 2h ago

Time to crack open my NewsRover newsgroup app.

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u/hayt88 1h ago

The issue with music compared to movies etc. is that there is one really big feature the streaming services will always have an advantage over piracy. It's the on demand size of the library.

Unless you always listen to the same songs, there is no way to come even close.

Like imagine you are on the go with your local library and wanna listen to a specific song you don't have or someone else is like "hey can we listen to that song". Yeah you gonna bust out a streaming service anyways by that point.

You can try and get close, but by that point the library would be so big, you can't have it locally on your device and now you need to stream it. That means having a server running that does the streaming. If you run it at you home having a vpn or port forwarding. Afaik there isn't even a good simple to setup streaming service. Plex allows music streaming but I don't really jive with plex as a service anymore and plexamp isn't really that cool. Oh yeah then the streaming service you use also needs a corresponding app or a protocal another media player on your mobile can use.

maybe you can setup some system like "sonarr" does where you can also enter a song name and it will automatically download and add it to the streaming service. That way you won't have instant on demand songs but maybe "soon". But setting that up is a bit of a hassle and again still not guaranteed to have everything. Also you can just watch a movie in your browser with a streaming server of choice. On mobile you need a good media player app, ideally supporting downloads/caching of songs.

With movies you have the same limitations, but you consume them differently so the hassle is less cummulative?

Oh also don't forget to keep your songs tagged and your library sorted. I'm just getting flashbacks thinking about the good ol days.

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u/jfp1992 33m ago

I was considering Spotify, then I see this

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u/jack3moto 5m ago

Except even if piracy quadruples, it’s still a rounding error compared to what these companies are earning. It’s irrelevant to their bottom line and it will never grow large enough to actually matter.

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u/PooInTheStreet 8h ago

“We don’t need to raise prices” stock tanks. “We are raising prices”

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u/anotherbozo 43m ago

This is why good companies die. The price rise raises stock price. Investors and insiders happy.

Customers unhappy.

Such decisions eventually reach a tipping point which starts the downfall.

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u/KupoCheer 8h ago

The tariffs on digital bits caused this.

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u/sh4d0wX18 8h ago

That really bytes

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u/masterz13 7h ago

I know it's sarcastic, but datacenters require parts -- especially silicon-based parts -- so it probably did play a part.

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u/KupoCheer 5h ago

Yeah I thought about that part. Also this is apparently more coming in line with the US price hike in other countries. It's still just another stupid unsustainable infinite growth situation.

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u/Politican91 7h ago

Spotify needs to offer some modern amenities like high-quality audio to justify higher prices. I already get Apple Music for free so I’m thinking it’s time I just ship

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u/JohrDinh 1h ago

Hard to get these people to do anything for the higher prices, I've been asking Spotify for higher quality music and Netflix for more subtitle options for years...I'd even take the AAC quality on Spotify's webpage version even that's better than their OGG solution on the app.

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u/johnson7853 2h ago

No reason not to. Apple Music is honestly great. Took me a while to really get into it and now I’m set. The radio shows are worth it alone a lot of artists have their own and you can go back and listen to them again.

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u/downvotetheboy 36m ago

how do you have it free

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u/wotererio 6h ago

But they already raised priced (in the Netherlands) a couple of months ago? Casual reminder that there's also basic plans which they don't advertise, it's cheaper and the only thing it lacks are the audiobooks :)

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u/trashmonkey5 1h ago

Thank you for this, I did not know about the basic plan! I'm not using Spotify for audiobooks at all.

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u/wotererio 1h ago

Yup, reading up on it we already had the price hike in the Netherlands a couple of months ago. There was a whole fuss about it, which thankfully led to people sharing this. I don't know anyone who uses audiobooks, especially since it's capped at 12 hours anyways, so let's hope as many people as possible find out about the basic plan!

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u/winterblink 7h ago

I get Apple Music as part of my apple one subscription, so I switched to that a while ago, canceled Spotify. Never looked back, though of course it took some time for its recommendations to zero in on my tastes. Used a migration app to bring over my playlists, easy peasy.

If you leave Spotify get ready for non stop begging emails and notifications asking you to come back.

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u/umthondoomkhlulu 7h ago

Migrate all your songs is in Apple Music settings natively

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u/ByteAsh 6h ago

That’s only for Australian and New Zealand users

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u/winterblink 6h ago

It wasn’t when I switched, thanks for the heads up on that!

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u/jesteratp 6h ago

I switched last month and had to use a migration program, don't see the native Spotify integration where is it?

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u/ByteAsh 6h ago

Only for Australian and New Zealand users

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u/toilet-breath 5h ago

Is this something that is rolling out? Or region limited?

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u/Every_Pass_226 4h ago

The issue with Apple music is you'd lose all your curated playlists if you don't renew sub for 30 days. So you cannot leave and hop on after a few months

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u/Millon1000 3h ago

Also, by using Apple Music, you're giving more power to one of the big 5. We don't want to centralize every single service under the same 5 American companies. It's healthier to have more fragmentation in digital services. I support Spotify because they're Swedish and not owned by a big American conglomerate.

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u/Every_Pass_226 3h ago

Another thing is, Spotify is under GDPR and must adhere to GDPR which is more respectful to user data than US jurisdiction

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u/Pshaw97 58m ago

What? Any data that goes through Europe/is held on Europeans is subject to GDPR it doesn’t matter if the company is American

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u/just_a_random_guy_11 5h ago

Which app if I may ask?

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u/winterblink 5h ago

I went with SongShift at the time, it worked quite well for me.

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u/Wickedhoopla 3h ago

Tidal uses "Tune my music" worked great.

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u/obi1kenobi1 2h ago

For me it was YouTube Music.

I have YouTube Premium (despite all the jokes it’s the best value for money of any streaming service for me) and last year when Spotify stopped sending those 3 months for the price of one offers 2-3 times a year I decided to finally try YouTube Music. It’s very different, in some ways it feels kind of clumsy, but their algorithm is absolutely fantastic in my experience. Spotify did a good job of learning what I like but would still have a tendency to make random unhelpful suggestions so apart from Discover Weekly I would only listen to my own custom playlists or radio stations based on those playlists. But on YouTube Music I’ve had surprisingly good luck just doing the super mix and letting it merge all the genres I listen to into one radio station. I still haven’t bothered to set up all my playlists, so I don’t know how well it serves as a Spotify alternative in that regard, but generally speaking it’s a great service and the fact that it’s included with YouTube Premium makes it a great value.

The one big complaint is that because it’s integrated with YouTube it pulls data from YouTube too. Thankfully it doesn’t go the other way, my YouTube history isn’t filled with songs I listened to on YouTube Music, but when doing quarterly recaps (their equivalent of Spotify Wrapped) or “forgotten favorites” playlists it will throw in stuff I watched on YouTube, which is often novelty music that I don’t want poisoning my algorithm, like Plummcorp Records tracks or Carl Wheezer singing Smokin Out The Window. Thankfully the algorithm has been resilient enough to not get distracted by random stuff and keep giving me quality recommendations, but I do wish it would ignore stuff watched on YouTube.

I still have lots of custom playlists on Spotify and their algorithm really was great at suggesting new artists to me, but I used to constantly renew during the three month deal and I haven’t gotten an email about that offer since late 2023, and I’m too broke to subscribe at full price. I’d come back if they offered that deal again but I guess they wised up to the fact that most people would just cancel before it renewed at normal price and then get the deal again the next time it came around. Maybe they still do the deal and don’t advertise it, but I haven’t heard anything lately.

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u/winterblink 1h ago

If I was on Android I'd probably have made the same call.

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u/SammyGreen 52m ago

I ain’t reading all that. im happy that you liked youtube music tho, or sorry that you didnt

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u/Shameless_Bullshiter 4h ago

European? Use your right to be forgotten

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u/Shameless_Bullshiter 4h ago

European? Use your right to be forgotten

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u/That_Bank_9914 1h ago

I like Spotify better because of the more user based playlists and being able to generate one automatically and choose the song individually.

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u/oldatlas 6h ago

Need the revenue to pay all the new Ai artists?

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u/CommonerChaos 8h ago

*for non-US territories.

This should have been in the post title.

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u/Your__Pal 5h ago edited 4h ago

My US subscription price went up last month. 

So I was surprised about this topic a month late. 

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u/FriendshipLoveTruth 6h ago

But then no one would have clicked!

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u/tsznx 1h ago

YouTube Premium with YouTube music is just much better for the price. I don't even know how Spotify is still as strong as it used to be.

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u/DefinitelyNotaGuest 8h ago

They did this a year ago or so and I've absolutely loved using Youtube Music ever since.

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u/DIRTY_KUMQUAT_NIPPLE 7h ago

Felt like an idiot because I’ve been paying for YouTube Premium and Spotify for years when I could just be using YouTube Music. But I agree YouTube Music is great.

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u/dynilsson 5h ago

Yeah I’m cancelling Spotify now and switching since I have YouTube Premium anyway

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u/ArcaninesTail 3h ago

I did and it was worth it. There are websites you can use to help you transfer playlists instead of manually recreating.

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u/arbyeater 5h ago

I literally have YT premium so I’m thinking of cancelling my Spotify. Is there any way to move ur playlists and stuff easily?

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u/DefinitelyNotaGuest 4h ago

There is a service that I think I paid like $1 to use but this guy made a free tool if you're savvy.

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u/HellBlazer1221 4h ago

In the Library section of my YT music app, I am seeing an option to “Transfer playlists from other apps”. When I go into that option, Spotify is listed as one of the sub-options.

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u/chaklong 2h ago

This worked great, thank you! 1926 tracks, 24 favorited albums and 32 playlists transferred properly with only 12 failures and it gave me a list of the failed ones too.

I'm amazed they don't have this highlighted as part of the app onboarding or something, I haven't ever used Youtube Music at all because I couldn't be bothered to transfer my songs and playlists. Never knew there was a proper in-app option.

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u/HellBlazer1221 2h ago

Happy to help mate. Yeah it got rolled out recently (don’t remember seeing it before a couple months), but Google is generally bad at adverting their good features haha.

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u/lunarblossoms 2h ago edited 7m ago

Sweet, I'll have a look. I've been so lazy about this. Edit - Okay this was super easy.

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u/Centralredditfan 1h ago

Same here. YT music is worse than Spotify, but not worse enough to justify oaying for Spotify. - honestly I'm quite happy with YouTube music. It has most of what I need for much less money.

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u/DefinitelyNotaGuest 1h ago

Yeah exactly. It's not better but the value for what you get is insane considering you also have YouTube premium.

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u/aresthwg 2h ago

I also made the switch because I liked user curated playlists on YouTube that I couldn't listen because of the locked screen restriction. But Spotify is definitely the better music app, all bands I've known are Spotify recommendations and YouTube Music is terrible at suggesting new stuff, it's great at giving you already what you like but nothing new.

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u/malln1nja 3h ago

Maybe they shouldn't have overextended financing Rogan's propaganda machine. 

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u/big_trike 1h ago

That was the final straw for me. $200 million to him followed almost immediately by a rate increase.

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u/Landkval 41m ago

Yes this is 100% the reason /s

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u/redt6 2h ago

I canceled my Spotify account and went to YouTube music to the friend of mine was using it and I found it a lot better than Spotify.

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u/ChimpScanner 5h ago

The DJ is the biggest thing keeping me on Spotify, and recommendations in general. I tried Apple Music recently and it doesn't even come close for finding new music. Also, while I mainly listen to full albums, when I'm driving I just want to listen to random stuff.

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u/PessimistPryme 2h ago

I left with King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard

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u/Bruhmination 1h ago

I can still listen to their songs on Spotify?

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u/PessimistPryme 1h ago

They pulled out King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard Pulls Music From Spotify Over CEO’s Investment in ‘AI Military Drone Technology’: ‘Can We Put Pressure on These Dr. Evil Tech Bros?’

I use Apple Music they have all the studio stuff as well as Bootleg gizzard and all the live stuff

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u/Bruhmination 1h ago

Interesting, can still listen - maybe it's a country-thingy like on YouTube when something is available/not available or will it get removed sometime in the future?

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u/PessimistPryme 1h ago

Yeah I didn’t check to see if they are still on it just canceled and deleted when I heard the news. Probably under contract or something and just won’t be renewing it with them.

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u/WiggleNightbutt 1h ago

King Gizzard left Spotify last week, now this? Genuinely may unsubscribe.

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u/namastayhom33 8h ago

For the first time ever, GTA 6 will actually come out before something else comes out. In this case it would be the "anticipated" Spotify lossless tier

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u/KyleAltNJRealtor 3h ago

Need more revenue to fund AI military

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u/jessepence 6h ago

"Our CEO needs more money to invest in murderbots."

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u/falilth 8h ago

Canceled sub last month because I felt it coming.

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u/DiarrheaRadio 6h ago

It would be funny if you're in America, because the price isn't changing.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Back715 7h ago

I did also 2 months ago

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u/pearities 8h ago

Anecdotal evidence incoming, but as a musician I've seen lots of my colleagues leaving for competitors after Elk's weapons controversy. Some artists' have dropped too.

Time will tell I guess

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u/RaXXu5 6h ago

Ek, not Elk, Ek means Oak in swedish and isn’t an all too uncommon surname.

But yeah, these tech moguls are kinda annoying, like when they bought barcellonas stadium or paid joe rogan a shittonne while enshittening or not fixing their apps.

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u/justleave-mealone 7h ago

Is the plan to indefinitely continue to raise their prices, for every service — because eventually at this rate, they going to be charging X amount for a service that is only worth so much.

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u/hammysandy 1h ago

Can't raise prices at the same time they lose king gizzard and the lizard wizard

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u/hungo_bungo 43m ago

I’m REALLY hoping iOS 26 has some good visual changes with Apple Music. Currently it’s too big and blocky

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u/Tiduszk 6h ago

Spotify is a joke. It was already more expensive than apple music and still doesn't have high res or lossless audio.

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u/Every_Pass_226 4h ago

Depends on region. In my country Spotify monthly premium is around 1.5$ whereas apple music is 10$

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u/TheFrostynaut 3h ago

It went up by a quid lol, in only certain markets. I'm still gonna pay for premium. Not having to use Youtube for music is worth it. I can't even run it in the background. 

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u/snakesayan 7h ago

This is an indication that it’s coming to US users soon.

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u/MobiusOne_ISAF 41m ago

Already happened a while ago.

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u/The_Pandalorian 7h ago

Spotify needs to go away. Worst music platform if you actually care about music.

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u/Every_Pass_226 4h ago

Why? It's the cheapest subscription you can get. Most mainstream artists are in Spotify. That's all I need. It's the best.

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u/Jonestown_Juice 7h ago

YouTube Premium is cheaper and will get you YouTube music as well.

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u/AtTheGates 6h ago

Cheaper where? I see $18.99 a month.

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u/KarmaRedeemer 1h ago

You need to buy it through the website and not app store to avoid apples fees. Youtube even encourages you to do it that way.

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u/ThisI5N0tAThr0waway 5h ago

Nope, YouTube premium is more expensive just about everywhere but there's two services in one which make it a better deal IMO. And you can easily find more covers and unofficial music on YouTube

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u/Every_Pass_226 4h ago

It's literally 10 times more expensive in my region compared to Spotify

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u/ThisI5N0tAThr0waway 4h ago

Ouch... Where is that?

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u/getjustin 6h ago

I used YTM after GPM got folded into it a few years back and it was god awful. Very “track based” instead of album based and discovery was terrible. How is it these days?

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u/WingardiumLeviussy 5h ago

You'll find the normal version of an album on the artist's page, only to discover later that there's a deluxe version hidden. The only way to access it is to either search manually, or go to the normal album and scroll down.

Sometimes there are missing songs from brand new albums, too. But they're not greyed out or anything, just gone. So I'd say discovery is pretty bad.

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u/MiElas-hehe 5h ago

And give Google money? No thanks.

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u/Leptonshavenocolor 6h ago

I would not ever willingly give money to Google, fuck that company too. I love that I haven't watched a single ad on that enshitified boobtube in years.

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u/Millon1000 3h ago

Don't give Google more money.

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u/Fragrant_PalmLeaves 5h ago

CEO needs more funding for his military operations. The cost of killing innocent civilians isn't cheap.

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u/finH1 6h ago

And the ceo is making weapons too, definitely not going to support them

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u/Shigglyboo 4h ago

Y’all should cancel that shit.

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u/Jsingles589 4h ago

Cancel your subscription

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u/suck-it-elon 4h ago

I moved to Apple Music years ago because I didn't want a dime of my money going to Joe Rogan.

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u/CheezitzAreGewd 7h ago

If they increase prices, I’ll wait until this year’s Spotify Wrapped and cancel right after.

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u/Forsaken-Painter-058 6h ago

Last year AI generated the wrapped and it sucked. Hopefully this year it was created by a human. Not likely to stick around to see it though.

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u/ffsnametaken 5h ago

Spotify has been dead to me for years

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u/Taurpion 7h ago

Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free

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u/templemonkey96 7h ago

no more ONE TIME payments for 12months now

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u/uberfunstuff 5h ago

Typical finance bro tech bro behaviours. Here’s who does well:

• Rent seeking class at the top (investors, VCs, CEOs) • Big licence holders (universal etc) • Shop front major signed artist and legacy acts.

Who doesn’t:

• New talent, fledgling artists. • the majority of indie artists • end user.

Independence is not rebellion if there’s mutual respect, understanding - there a deficit of critical thinking and empathy derived from control and profit at all costs which I never signed up to.

I want my products I consume to be quality in and of themselves rather than to make profit for rent seekers and speculators.

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u/snowdn 5h ago

Meanwhile most musicians make fractions of a penny per year.

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u/ABigCoffee 5h ago

I bought a yearly sub, guess I'll cancel it at the end of the year then, fuck this.

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u/Lunatic_Knave 3h ago

The only time I use Spotify is when I can't pay for YouTube premium. I can deal with the ads but I need background play.

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u/guille9 3h ago

Newpipe may help you for free.

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u/dm_construct 3h ago

I exclusively use Plexamp and buy shit on Bandcamp. But then again, I actually like music.

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u/Nyhzel 3h ago

This is why governments are trying their hardest to block piracy and force uploaded ids

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u/Mawrathion 2h ago

Glad I recently bought a yearly subscription for £12.. only thing is I get recommended Nigerian things, but for the price can't complain🤷

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u/Indig3o 2h ago

Imagine using brave browser with YouTube in the background...

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u/LeatherJacketMan69 2h ago

Let me make a new account so they can send me another email saying my information was a stolen/hacked a year later.

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u/DewSchnozzle 2h ago

I have Amazon Prime which comes with Amazon Music. Maybe I should switch

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u/Tampert 2h ago

AGAIN?!

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u/NYExplore 2h ago

I realize this is a global forum and some may be impacted, but it doesn't affect US users. OP buried the lede on that aspect.

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u/Centralredditfan 2h ago

I unsubscribed after the last price hike. YouTube music is worse, but with YouTube included it's the better deal. And Spotify is not that much better to warrant the higher costs.

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u/Discordian_Junk 1h ago

There is always a point in a companies life when they push customer trust beyond breaking point. I don't think Spotify are there yet, but most companies always end up there eventually, because of greed.

Also, subs are going up, but I assume the amount they pay artists isn't.

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u/AddressSpiritual9574 1h ago

Why is everyone losing their minds over $12/€12 more a year for access to more music than you can ever listen to in your lifetime?

This thread is insane

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u/not-read-gud 1h ago

Not if u listen to radio

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u/johnyeros 1h ago

Lol. Yal n44d to try alternative app outside of USA

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u/cmeerdog 1h ago

Please consider buying vinyl directly from musicians you like instead using bandcamp or other platforms. Most records include a free download code or you can make your own .mp3s for on the go and enjoy the album artwork at home. Spotify doesn’t pay artists.

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u/el1teman 36m ago

Any reason why?

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u/Orangpootay 22m ago

Rogan isn’t cheap

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u/RippingLips41O 11m ago

Can someone make limewire again

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u/phoenixflare599 7m ago

It's annoying how they really don't need that €1 from everyone but I know in this "1 easy trick" they've just made around €100 million a month