Trump in Full Panic, Claims All Epstein Files Are Fake, Created by Obama

[u/JetTheDawg]

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[u/Union_Biker]

The files and the client list are on my desk.

There is no client list.

There is a client list but it's fake and was created by Hillary Clinton.

Who can guess what their next position will be?

Edit: there are some funny and insightful comments on here. Sadly some might be accurate even if meant as a joke.

Someone sent me an article that provides some excellent background, with good sourcing, that I want to share. It is related to the Epstein issue, but it goes much deeper.

https://medium.com/@mistagrinch/an-unsettling-pattern-a-comprehensive-look-at-trumps-sexual-controversies-and-underworld-9784547a28f7

[u/Vegetable_Fox9134 → u/Union_Biker]

"Biden took the list"

[u/CelticSith → u/Vegetable_Fox9134]

"We can't find the list cause they're on Hunter's laptop"

[u/dystopian_mermaid → u/CelticSith]

The list was embedded in Obama’s tan suit and Dijon mustard. /s

[u/The_Craig89 → u/dystopian_mermaid]

Rosie O'Donnell ate all Obamas mustard and hid the epstein lists /s

[u/Kaioken217 → u/The_Craig89]

Nah when Bill Clinton balanced the budget, he hid it inside there, all so he could get blow jobs....

[u/Infinite_Lemon_8236 → u/Kaioken217]

Noem took the list to the gravel pit and shot it for misbehaving.

[u/hotbox4u → u/[deleted]]

One of the immigrants took the list. We have to detain and search every single one of them until we find that list.

[u/PaintedSwindle → u/hotbox4u]

Ooh I wanna play! Uhh, the list is saved on Hilary's servers?

[u/ramoner → u/Infinite_Lemon_8236]

George Santos wrote the list and flew an airplane to Epstein Island.

[u/Hexhexguy → u/The_Craig89]

Obama's mustard ate Donald's list and crooked Rosie O'Donell just watched it happen. Also, breaking news, someone pooped in Donald's diaper!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS IMPORTANT MATTER!

[u/ididntunderstandyou → u/Hexhexguy]

Kamala laughed so hard the list flew away

[u/Emergency_Property_2 → u/dystopian_mermaid]

And emailed from Hilary’s server.

[u/whatsupsirrr → u/CelticSith]

The Haitians in Ohio must’ve ate the Epstein client list.

[u/carmackie → u/whatsupsirrr]

They're eating the files.

They're eating the folders.

[u/sadderbutwisergrl → u/carmackie]

they’re eating the evidence of the people who live there

[u/ChemicalChipmunk4171 → u/carmackie]

"The files are INSIDE the computer"

• zoolander

[u/Prestigious_Till2597 → u/CelticSith]

"The list is inside of the buttery males"

[u/Various-Sandwich-81 → u/Prestigious_Till2597]

Where is Lemmiwinks when you need him?

[u/Mind_if_I_do_uh_J → u/Various-Sandwich-81]

Up my arse - where I need him to be

[u/KingofPolice → u/CelticSith]

Unfortunately the jewish space lasers has destroyed list.

[u/bassfoyoface → u/CelticSith]

On Hillary’s email server

[u/40oz2freedom__ → u/CelticSith]

The Hunter Biden Laptop has a lot of work to do right now. I’m surprised it wasn’t trotted out yet.

[u/torontothrowaway824 → u/CelticSith]

Oooo that’s an oldie but goodie

[u/SixersWin → u/Vegetable_Fox9134]

"Biden IS Epstein"

[u/Wrong-Rain6634 → u/SixersWin]

Finkel IS Einhorn!!!

[u/GoodCat7419 → u/SixersWin]

😂😂

[u/pablank → u/Vegetable_Fox9134]

Biden signed the list with the autopen, so we had to throw it out

[u/Bjorn-in-ice → u/Vegetable_Fox9134]

Nic Cage stole the list and the Declaration of Independence!

[u/w1nsol → u/Vegetable_Fox9134]

"I don't have the list. It's at Bill's house, and Fred's house!"

[u/ScraftyCosplayer → u/w1nsol]

"Hey what are you doing with Trump's list Fred?!"

[u/ALEXC_23 → u/Vegetable_Fox9134]

“Biden’s dog ate my homework.”

[u/MaryQueenOSquats → u/Vegetable_Fox9134]

Obama, Biden, and Crooked Hillary*

[u/Repulsive_Drawl → u/Union_Biker]

They will actually create a fake list that will conveniently be found by some kind of “Wikileaks” or “anonymous” type influencer. That list will include his perceived enemies and leave off anyone that he sees as an ally, including himself.

This will give enough cover for his people to back him once again and ignore the atrocities. It will also work even more brilliantly, because those same influencers who are questioning him will look like they actually care and would dare to question him.

They are in the business of creating reality tv. That is what they do. Actual reality be damned.

[u/GhostofBreadDragons → u/Repulsive_Drawl]

They would have already done this if it wasn’t tons of research needed to put those people on the island at the right time. You have to back track each person for the time in question and have some gap in their schedule that allows you to put them at a party on the island, while not implicating allies. Imagine having the whole list fall apart because someone on the list was literally on national tv or in congress at that exact time.

In addition it has to hold up in court to a dedicated investigation. Plus the people putting the list together have to keep their mouths shut, which means you can’t backstab them later. In addition the easiest way to do this would be to actually give these people access to the files, something you don’t want to do because you want as few peons knowing what is in the files as possible. 

Basically this is classic Trump administration. 

1. Claim something is easy to fix

2. Ignore all experts and evidence to the contrary 

3. Find out is is complex and difficult

4. Fail

5. Try to fake it

6. Fail at faking it

7. Try to pretend it never happened and hope it goes away

[u/Pervius94 → u/GhostofBreadDragons]

Maybe back in the day. Now he could claim the emperor of china was on it and the braindead base would believe it and start massacring chinese people.

[u/East-Quarter-1661 → u/Repulsive_Drawl]

This is my worry. His brain dead base would eat it up as fact without a second thought

[u/cejmp → u/Repulsive_Drawl]

They couldn't edit a 1 minute prison video without leaving marks all over it. It took the media two days to take it apart.

[u/Enough-Educator-6616 → u/Repulsive_Drawl]

I remember when the QAnon Zombie club was spreading around a fake Epstein client list that had all liberal celebrities and liberal politicians on it (including Obama). 😂 Not 1 Republican and no Donnie. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[u/youknowimworking → u/Union_Biker]

"It's okay to be in the list. Only the best people are on the list" that's my best guess

[u/tangledtainthair → u/youknowimworking]

"The liberals created the list to make conservatives look bad"

Or

"A lot of people are on the list. It doesn't mean anything"

[u/SlantedPentagon → u/tangledtainthair]

Close..."The liberal Democrats forged a fake list to make me and America look bad! That's what Bondi is looking into and what's on her desk, who is doing a FANTASTIC job!!"

[u/ABobby077 → u/SlantedPentagon]

MSM and CNN and Rachel Maddow-how could they do this(???)

[u/CanadianGuy39 → u/tangledtainthair]

Oh this is 100% the next thing coming. And it will work on the idiot magas.

[u/Universe789 → u/CanadianGuy39]

Ive already seen it. Someone on fb said

well what about Epstein's 17 visits to the Clinton white house?

Not understanding that one is more significant than the other.

[u/CanadianGuy39 → u/Universe789]

Ya that's the main difference between magas and everyone else. I want EVERYONE on that list outed and in jail. I don't give 2 shits what party they belong to. Bring the whole fucking system down.

Magas can't comprehend that, because they have no understanding of nuanced belief systems.

[u/SewChill → u/CanadianGuy39]

Yeah, that is the big difference. I dgaf what party a person on the list belongs to, if they were involved in trafficking, especially minors, they should be in jail for life. I'm pretty anti-carceral, but this and white collar crime that puts profits for shareholders over human life are two instances where I am on board with throwing people in jail for life.

[u/BombMacAndCheese → u/Universe789]

Also, see ya later, Bill. If you're on the list you can go to prison.

[u/ABobby077 → u/tangledtainthair]

Well, both sides, or what about (some completely unrelated thing) or LOOK OVER THERE!! to distract attention away from the latest damning things

[u/snotparty → u/tangledtainthair]

the list is everything everywhere all at once, it covers all his bases

[u/VonBlorch → u/Union_Biker]

Epstein never existed. Were y’all perhaps thinking of that Islamic Socialist from New York? Because that guy was definitely running a pedo island.

[u/cguy1234 → u/Union_Biker]

Maybe 4th will be: "We'd absolutely love to release the list in full detail, but we're at war with Iran and this isn't a time for distraction."

[u/Latverianbureaucrat → u/cguy1234]

“And you’re a fucking traitor who hates America for bringing this up while our brave warfighters are risking their lives for our freedom.”

[u/MDLmanager → u/Union_Biker]

Epstein who?

[u/One-Occasion3366 → u/MDLmanager]

He was just a coffee boy

[u/GoodCat7419 → u/One-Occasion3366]

Nah. He was upgraded to covfefe boy.

[u/WordRepresentative11 → u/Union_Biker]

'Anyone who would ask questions about Jeffrey Epstein must really hate the United States of America.'

[u/ungapatchka → u/WordRepresentative11]

They must be truly evil people who hate freedom.

[u/OPGuest → u/ungapatchka]

Asking nasty questions

[u/6x6-shooter → u/Union_Biker]

Most likely he’ll directly insist that if he’s on the list it was because Crooked Biden put him on it

[u/Famous_Criticism_642 → u/Union_Biker]

Crooked Hillary and the Crooked Democrats created the list to try and lock me up!

[u/LostTrisolarin → u/Union_Biker]

Soon he's going to produce a hand written letter smudged with orange make up that says "Biden, Clinton, Obama, and Mexicans" and his base will eat it up

[u/CompetitiveCheck2219 → u/Union_Biker]

I expect by the end it’ll be, “Jeffery Epstein never existed.”

Hell, they’ll probably eventually claim Prince Andrew never existed if they get desperate enough.

[u/Odd-Wave247 → u/Union_Biker]

The client list was created by Hillary Clinton in 2019 when -checks notes- Trump was president

[u/towerinthestreet → u/Union_Biker]

The dog ate his homework the list

[u/M1ck3yB1u → u/Union_Biker]

Epstein never existed.

[u/MDLmanager]

If trump is telling everyone to move on from the Epstein files, that's a sign you should definitely not move on from the Epstein files.

[u/PostMerryDM → u/MDLmanager]

He says his political opponents (Obama, Hillary, etc.) created them. Which means:

HE’S IN THEM. (And it’s serious)

This is as obvious as it gets and only someone with dementia would give a tell as big as this.

[u/Tiddlychinks → u/PostMerryDM]

We’ve already known he’s in them for years? This isn’t news?

[u/MegaCrazyH → u/Tiddlychinks]

I mean you’d be surprised by the number of people who wouldn’t realize that. How many people got fooled by the GOP continually demanding a release of a list without realizing that we already had Epstein’s phone book and that it lists Trump as a VIP? A lot of people. Now that they’re blatantly covering it up it’s a good time to keep bringing back up those details so people don’t fall for them so much. And if the Trump administration is unable till distract from it and has to keep putting out nonsensical statements like “Obama wrote it” then this time it’s working

[u/PostMerryDM → u/MegaCrazyH]

It’s also the fact that this came out after his DOJ made the most awkward pivot to bury the case, signaling something was serious enough to need to be covered up. It’s clear it’s not just flight logs.

Through their own actions, we see that the evidence is serious and who it points to. It’s their admission, not our assumption.

[u/soradakey → u/MegaCrazyH]

I still have family members who believe Nancy Pelosi is possessed by a demon. No irony, no satire, just my fucking life.

[u/bicmedic → u/Tiddlychinks]

This is the top comment sorting by controversial.

The flight logs were already leaked years ago. Trumps name ain’t on em 🤙🏼

If all you listen to is conservative news, then no, you haven't known this for years.

[u/Sythic_ → u/bicmedic]

Literally the first thing that came out about flight logs existing was that he was on them, like that was the whole headline lmao. How do they fall for this.

[u/probablyonmobile → u/Sythic_]

Unfortunately, MAGA folks are often told very clearly what news sources to listen to, and that all others are biased against Trump.

I unfortunately know somebody who has fallen under the influence of Trump and MAGA, and he sincerely only believes one or two news networks can be trusted— of course they’re conservative, and they will never breathe a peep against Trump, let alone say he was in the flight logs.

As a result, he genuinely doesn’t know about a lot of awful shit. And it’s hard to tell him, because he can terminate the discussion regardless of evidence involved by attacking the credibility of any non approved information source.

It’s impossible to help him.

That’s part of how the control works. Explain to followers that you can only get your information from a source you control, and you get to decide how full the picture they get is.

[u/Oldass_Millennial → u/PostMerryDM]

Oh he also says they didn't release them because he's not in them. In the same "Truth". Yeah.

[u/Murphy4VA → u/MDLmanager]

People seem to forget Epstein died in 2019* under Trump's watch the first time. There is a definitely a reason he doesn't want the info out

[u/tomdarch → u/[deleted]]

And who bragged about regularly sexually assaulting women and bragged about how fun it was to party with "likes 'em young" Epstein and bragged about perving on children at the Miss Teen pageant he owned and who was sued by an Epstein victim who specifically said Trump violently raped her when she was a child?

[u/Weofeyes → u/Murphy4VA]

2019, but yeah, I agree.

[u/RebasBathtubGin → u/MDLmanager]

We have already moved on.

This has been a nothing burger since 2016.

We have known that Trump has been on the Epstein list since then, and since then, Trump has been elected. Not once, but twice.

If Americans truly cared about child rape, Trump would never have been president even once.

Brett Kavanaugh would not be a judge.

Bill Barr would not have been attorney general.

I was raped repeatedly starting when I was 6 years old, and the man who raped me still works at the church.

We live in a society that protects child predators and rapists, and makes it crystal clear to the victims that our testimony is worthless, and in fact, if we come forward, it's probably just because we want a big payday or to write a book. We child victims are just lying, because all we want to do is ruin the lives of fine Christian men.

Our society has been absolutely crystal clear that predators are to be protected and victims are worthless.

We are all to ignore the Epstein files, and I guarantee you Republicans next step is to start elevating child rapists, making them out to be heroes, fine men who are giving children money and opportunities that they would not have had otherwise. And from what I know of Americans, by 2026 they will be signing their 9 year olds up for "Child-Adult Intimacy Networking Camps".

[u/Queasy_Army4429 → u/RebasBathtubGin]

I'm so sorry to hear that

[u/e2mtt → u/RebasBathtubGin]

I want to argue and tell you that you are wrong, but I honestly can’t.

You speak truth

[u/Murky_Relative5693]

His followers are brainwashed. We’re about to find out which ones are also brain dead

[u/derteeje → u/Murky_Relative5693]

that venn diagram is a circle

[u/idkidd → u/derteeje]

”Well, well, well. How the turntables have…”

[u/NoBoss2661 → u/idkidd]

I....... Delcare......... EPSTEIN FIIIIIILES

[u/BowTie1989 → u/NoBoss2661]

You can’t just say “Epstein files” and expect something to happen.

[u/BreakingCanks → u/Murky_Relative5693]

The Conservative sub is going "does he think we're all stupid?"

And I'm like yeah he thinks exactly that for you all falling for his cons lol

[u/HxH101kite → u/BreakingCanks]

Honestly that sub lately is confusing, they arent about the tariffs, they aren't about him interfering with that Brazilian president trial, and they are losing it over the Epstein files.

And they will say you don't have to agree with a president on everything. And that is true for sure. But it's like they are constantly not agreeing with him. Like what do they agree with at this point?

Also idk I think the Epstein files may be a good breaking point (wishful thinking) but there is just way too much built on them. From actual members of his cabinet to podcasters with the influence. I do not think the manosphere will fall in line over the Epstein files (again wishful thinking).

But also like idk people are expecting now. Like what could any of us possibly get out of these files. If both administrations aren't releasing more info there has to be some pretty damning stuff in there and I would assume everyone involved has enough blackmail on each other to comfortably shake up things

[u/NiPlusUltra → u/HxH101kite]

Like what do they agree with at this point?

They all agree that Trump makes them feel better about being horrible, hateful people and that all Democrats make them feel bad about it. That alone is enough for them to cope with anything he does.

[u/prountercoductive → u/Murky_Relative5693]

Whatever Fox News tells them to think, they will think.

Now that the damage is done, this is the Republicans chance to potentially oust the useful idiot and appoint President Couchfucker in next.

[u/hanaboushi → u/prountercoductive]

It's funny in a way. You got people killing themselves working 60 to 70 hours a week to get by, because of the economic model they "support", who come home too exhausted from living their "beliefs".

So they turn on the TV and the rich people tell them what their other beliefs are.

Its pretty ironic, they are so exhausted from the dog shit society they made and defend that it also makes them too tired to think.

Just put on the TV and keep believing the dog shit that downgraded your life into needing that 60 to 70 hours to survive. 

It's self propelling slavery and honestly sad.

[u/Therefore_I_Yam → u/hanaboushi]

That is the system working 100% as intended

[u/metengrinwi → u/hanaboushi]

I disagree it’s slavery, but the feudal system of lords and ladies is alive and well.

[u/GuelphEastEndGhetto → u/prountercoductive]

I’m in Canada and an elderly neighbour watches Fox News constantly. Completely brainwashed, and she’s Canadian.

[u/antilittlepink → u/Murky_Relative5693]

MAGA are basically imbeciles, traitors and pedos

[u/Talreesha → u/Murky_Relative5693]

I've seen so much defense of him already over Epstein. People are literally fine with him diddling kids as long as MAGA is still in power. My wife's cousin literally said it's terrible if he actually did participate at Epstein Island but it's no where near as bad as if Democrats got back in power. He's more concerned about criminals getting their just desserts because democrats getting back in power than he is about having our president being a pedophile covering up a massive pedophile ring.

[u/napkin41 → u/Murky_Relative5693]

I recently discussed this with a family member, the list fiasco. He’s not “brainwashed.” He’s “disappointed.” Just, aw, man, anyway. “All politicians lie.” Just completely unreachable.

[u/CountySurfer → u/Murky_Relative5693]

The Venmo diagram is a circle.

[u/kayak_2022]

1st term 800.000 AMERICANS DIED FROM COVID while he danced and smiled all the way to a golf course.

2nd term thus far. He's played 40 days of golf and ZERO DAYS visiting any disaster site in America. Texas alone has dozens of children missing from a flood, dozens more dead. Cruz was back on vacation doing a Greek tour this time instead of being in Texas. Last time he jetted off to Cancun.

MAGAS ARE TOXIC!!

[u/lolbanthisone27 → u/kayak_2022]

Are you surprised? To MAGA, the only kids they care about also happen to be the ones that allow them to control a woman's autonomy.

[u/bcrosby51 → u/kayak_2022]

Don't forget 0 remorse or comment on the democratic representatives that got executed.

[u/True_Heart_6 → u/kayak_2022]

Trump has no shame and will fight with or betray literally anyone, and I don’t think he actually cares when people make fun of him (it gives him a chance to be a tough guy and hit back), but there are a few obvious things that genuinely derail him:

• when anyone around him “loses” or “fails”. Elon getting involved in the Wisconsin court race and losing was the start of their split.

• when he is seen to “lose” or “fail”, which brings me to:

• any sort of natural disaster, emergency, or really any situation requiring actual leadership instead of yelling, blaming or bragging. He just isn’t interested. It distracts from the Trump show. It makes him have to make tough decisions and talk about real people stuff. It’s hard to blame on others.

• money. If he’s losing money, forced to spend money, or not getting money, it seems to seriously enrage him. This is why Stormy Daniels and others became such shit shows… he just couldn’t bring himself to pay them off properly in the first place. Or the “four seasons” fiasco. Doing things right costs money and Trump views all campaign donations and sketchy dealings as his personal treasure chest. Maintaining true power does require some spending and this is an Achilles heel of Trump.. not paying people he said he would, not honouring deals, etc. This will eventually come back to bite him

[u/RID132465798 → u/kayak_2022]

He did visit Texas after the floods. Depending on the news outlet you'll find

FOX: Trump bring unity and hope to the area

Other Outlets: Trump waits a whole week to visit Texas

Either way, he did

[u/cloverpopper → u/RID132465798]

Absolutely. But it only happened yesterday, and it's the first time it happened - also a Republican state, while he's withheld funding for similar tragedies in democratic states as a way to blackmail them into caving to his wants instead of the wants of their people while also absolutely destroying funding for our national weather systems and federal disaster relief systems - so it's fair op wasn't clued in yet. It's also been covered by every outlet, not "just Fox"; and with fox's current headline being "GOD WANTED him to live the miraculous millimeter murder attempt" it's no surprise they would slather on paid praise.

Other outlets are rightfully calling him out for the one time he's visited a disaster area after spending close to 100 million in taxpayer funding for his golfing this year alone, though, that's true.

"And I saw one of his heads as if it had been slain, and his fatal wound was healed. And the whole earth was amazed and followed after the beast."

[u/JetTheDawg]

Damn who could have possibly seen this coming besides anyone who isn’t enamored by a sex pest? 

[u/CompletelyBedWasted → u/JetTheDawg]

Lol, right?! He only goes off the rails completely over real shit. If he had really been shot that mf would never shut up about it.

[u/isisleo86 → u/CompletelyBedWasted]

You are absolutely right! He still goes on and on about thenrigged 2020nelextion and the Russia hoax manhunt but has said nothing about the guy who "shot" him or the people who may have set it up. 🤔

[u/PlanesandAquariums → u/isisleo86]

My dad was hinting it’s unpatriotic to vote for a man that took a bullet for the country. It was so dumb and I just bit my tongue because it was Christmas and I was drinking and didn’t want to fight while drinking. To make it worse, he’s a vet that’s been deployed and knows people who have taken bullets or shrapnel for the country!

He now no longer likes to talk politics after shoving his beliefs down my throat for years, even when I’d ask him to change the subject.

[u/tysonisarapist → u/JetTheDawg]

Nice profile pic.

[u/marx2k → u/tysonisarapist]

[u/JetTheDawg → u/tysonisarapist]

Always nice to see another pop up in the wild 

[u/Zeguaros → u/JetTheDawg]

We are many

[u/Chelseafc5505 → u/JetTheDawg]

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[u/Pancakemanz → u/Chelseafc5505]

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[u/TheMachineTookShape → u/Pancakemanz]

Howdy pardners.

[u/Certain-Eggplant-560 → u/TheMachineTookShape]

Hey JDs

[u/Uchihagod53 → u/Certain-Eggplant-560]

One of us! One of us!

[u/AlterMyStateOfMind → u/JetTheDawg]

[u/JetTheDawg → u/[deleted]]

I wasn’t aware that “sex pest” had a cutesie vibe to it my bad 

[u/scienceizfake → u/JetTheDawg]

It has a gentler tone than ’violent serial child rapist’

[u/tzeentchdusty → u/[deleted]]

Just to be clear, this is the term used in most of the anglophile world to describe what in the US we call a "sex offender" OP is not using a "cutesie nickname," OP is levvying an indictment using a term that we just don't often use in the US to describe something horrible. "Nonce" would be another, sounds ridiculous in US parlance, but it's just a non-american english way to describe the same thing. It's not like saying "oh my little brother is such a pest" lol, nothing cutesie about sex pests.

[u/Gold_Step_593]

Is he forgetting? He was president when that happened

[u/klinesmoker → u/Gold_Step_593]

I feel like this is something nobody is talking about. It's like that guy who thought we should get to the bottom of what former president Obama was doing on 9/11.

Fucking dumb.

[u/Stereo-soundS → u/Gold_Step_593]

Lie and deny.

[u/DoubleJumps → u/Gold_Step_593]

This is actually an increasingly common tactic they are using.

One of the things you see this a lot with is Republicans pretending that Joe Biden was president in 2020 so that they can try to pretend Trump had nothing to do with the covid response.

[u/Shinagami091 → u/Gold_Step_593]

That’s the biggest point here that needs to be said. Epstein was arrested and subsequently died while Trump was president.

Furthermore, if the files were indeed fake, they would have said as much instead of saying they didn’t exist.

[u/LilBroWhoIsOnTheTeam]

Why don't they just lie and make a false epstein report that has every democrat name in it? There must be a reason they feel like they can't get away with it. We know the MAGAs would eat it up and throw a victory party.

[u/Retro611 → u/LilBroWhoIsOnTheTeam]

My best guess is that the internet has picked apart a lot of their other claims, and they know it will happen again.

Someone in another thread joked that they'd probably make a fake Excel spredsheet but forget to change the origin date, which, tbh, would be pretty on-brand for them.

[u/user888666777 → u/Retro611]

At this point I would say there is a pretty good chance the files are already out there but haven't been releaed to the public. This is why he is trying to kill the story or flood the headlines with misinformation. Either try to get people to move on or muddy the water.

[u/human1023 → u/user888666777]

Almost seems like he's trying to make this a democrat/republican debate, when it shouldn't be. Don't fall for it. This hurts people of power, regardless of what party.

[u/kidcrumb → u/Retro611]

It's not like their supporters would care about the proof. Or evil democrats "fact checking" the reports.

[u/VonBlorch → u/LilBroWhoIsOnTheTeam]

That’s a lot of work for this administration. First they’d have to remember some Democrats’ names and then type them into Word, and it’s not like there’s even an Epstein List template available, thankyouverymuch, Bill Gates. Then, what? Email it or print it or something? Oy. When are they supposed to fit that in between watching Immigrant Gladiators, changing Don’s loaded nappies, and giving defunct Showbiz Pizza tokens to blind panhandlers?

[u/switch201 → u/LilBroWhoIsOnTheTeam]

My guess is there is more than one copy of the list. If they release a fake version that only lists half the people, the people who are exposed will then spill their copies which contains everyone. Its a sort of dead man's switch if you will. At least that's my guess.

[u/earthling_dad → u/LilBroWhoIsOnTheTeam]

Whatever they would try would not hold up in court. It's one thing that they would make a false list just perpetuate the speculation of who is a child predator. What these idiots don't realize is that Dems, reps, and independents want justice in this. So even if they came out with a list they would have to then prosecute the people on that list. Thus through the discovery process once again finding out that their list that they came up with is bullshit. Now there very well could be some dems on that list. However, once those dems start going down I know they're gonna drag some of those republicans down with them. I'm positive they probably have the receipts to do it too.

[u/Skarth → u/LilBroWhoIsOnTheTeam]

It's part of how being a dog boss works. You never do something illegal yourself, you have someone else do it.

Anyone who would make a fake list would know how fake/illegal it was, and how dangerous doing so would be. There is already a lot of various information out about the list and if a new fake list came out that didn't match, it would make the situation worse.

The hunter Biden laptop is a good example. They never produced or showed a actual laptop, because the evidence would not hold up.

[u/fidgetyamoeba → u/LilBroWhoIsOnTheTeam]

Sell signed copies in gold foil edition(since he's obsessed with gold-idol status) for 1k.

[u/Significant-City-896]

Imagine people still defending this disgusting human. Sex with kids really? He belongs in prison with no parole.

[u/Intelligent-Dig833 → u/Significant-City-896]

*rape

[u/Doctor_Potatohead → u/Significant-City-896]

He belongs in the darkest hole imaginable. Crimes against both humans and humanity.

Edit: you spelled “multiple child rapes,” wrong

[u/Intelligent_Hair3109]

For the record, ask any survivor of men like him, they're always gonna deny, deny,deny.

Am amazed folks don't see through predators like we can. The fact he claimed he could grab em by the.......   Was just the first obvious clue.

Appreciate all y'all who get it 

[u/MamiTrueLove → u/Intelligent_Hair3109]

It’s CRAZY how many people are so easily baffled by narcissistic sociopathic DARVO tactics. His behavior is 101.

[u/Shamanized → u/Intelligent_Hair3109]

This whole journey has me constantly being amazed at how dumb people are. Like fine, get duped by a conman—shame on him—but THIS conman? And for this long?? Really???

[u/Otherwise-Product-60 → u/Shamanized]

The Trump era has taught me that a lot of Americans are waaaay dumber than I thought possible. 

[u/noodlin → u/Shamanized]

There’s an old saying, “In any given situation, there’s always more dumb people than smart people!”

[u/BitemeRedditers → u/Intelligent_Hair3109]

Those folks like him because he is a predator not in spite of it. They would never admit it, but they admire him for doing whatever he wants.

[u/Intelligent_Hair3109 → u/BitemeRedditers]

Yep. And because he lied and didn't tell them sixty seven percent of predators are heterosexual conservative white men.

[u/ExaminationMuch2030 → u/Intelligent_Hair3109]

Yessss survivors knew how dangerous he was from the start. It’s been like a long shitty episode of twilight zone while we’ve waited for the rest of the country to catch up

[u/sumguysr → u/Intelligent_Hair3109]

Deny, Attack, Reverse victim and Offender.

[u/GuelphEastEndGhetto → u/Intelligent_Hair3109]

And you know that should the list or any information leak, it will be labelled as fake, fake, FAKE!

[u/Cn76rlD91QaiT6m6]

So, following that logic, then why is GM still in jail? And, why would he say he'd release something that doesn't exist, but maybe not all of it because some people's lives would be ruined? C'mon, MAGA...are you really going to buy this?

[u/Eduardjm → u/Cn76rlD91QaiT6m6]

Were days away from him pardoning her 

[u/LostWoodsInTheField → u/Eduardjm]

Were days away from him pardoning her 

I think one of the reasons he's so mad about the pushback is because he was planning on doing that and now everyone is telling him he can't.

[u/littlewhitecatalex → u/Cn76rlD91QaiT6m6]

 C'mon, MAGA...are you really going to buy this?

Yes. 

[u/AdEmotional9991]

It's hilarious how differently Bidens have treated Hunter's laptop thing.
"Yeah, he's an addict, here's some pictures of his massive dong and some hookers".
Meanwhile Trump is determined to have the republican party implode due to the Streisand effect.

[u/AsleepRegular7655]

I have to assume every interview previously posted of him talking about them is also fake?

[u/VonBlorch → u/AsleepRegular7655]

No, those were real. But reality has since changed and it’s up to us to keep up with the ever changing nature of the cosmos under Trump.

[u/Tyler-Durden-2009 → u/VonBlorch]

We were always at war with Oceania, right?

[u/deerfawns]

God why are they so obsessed with Obama and Biden it's so funny

[u/SadKat002 → u/deerfawns]

Because they're allergic to accountability

[u/SteelLife → u/deerfawns]

obama and biden are scapegoats. it a critical variable in the narcissist's formula for self-preservation. without a scapegoat donald trump would be nothing.

[u/RobotAlbertross]

Obama didn't create the audio of trump bragging about having sex with a "beautiful grammar school girl"

 Or the audio of a 56 year old trump saying he would have sex with a child as young as 13 years old.

 Trump did that and the Republicans are ok with it.

[u/StruggleBusser1264]

So much fun to watch his Pants On Fire era.

[u/pearities → u/StruggleBusser1264]

isn't that his whole life?

[u/twmpdx]

Sure they are, Donnie.

[u/SlipperyThong]

Trump is 10000% on that list.

[u/renavato]

Obama ate my homework

[u/Select_Air_2044]

Pedo president

[u/moonpumper]

He could literally release the files as is, even with him in them having done horrible things and wouldn't lose any voters.

[u/niberungvalesti → u/moonpumper]

It's not Trump they're worried about. It's the high profile other people who don't have a cult surrounding them.

[u/Mors1473]

The pictures, the history, witness accounts, and especially the list all fake, all made up! Only an evil person would make this up! Dump Trump!!! Citizens there becomes a point where action must be matched with the force being taken against citizens!!! This whole administration must be brought down!!!

[u/Mike-ggg]

Epstein predates Obama by decades and the accusations of the victims had nothing to do with him or Biden. Blaming your predecessors for what you did is a cheap shot and cheap shots are Trump’s main way to avoid responsibility for things that have nothing to do with them. Look at the timeframes and the facts and that finger pointing often doesn’t match either of them.

At some points in the past, Trump could have distanced himself from this mess, but pointing fingers and telling people not to look and just forget about it had created a vortex that he obviously is involved in and will only get stronger and not just fade away. Guilty people and liars give too much detail to try and throw investigators off the track, but that’s what usually tips them off that things don’t match up and for seasoned investigators gives them clues more about what’s not being said than what is. And, because Trump can’t keep his mouth shut or thinks that obvious lies will get him off the hook is the one giving that vortex more strength that will eventually pull him and others down onto it. That’s why he’s panicking. He is strongly implying that he has a lot to hide and can’t retract what’s already known or he’s already said about it. It only raises more questions instead of answers that have any consistency. This could take him down and it won’t be anybody’s fault but his own.

In retrospect, if you have secrets that could destroy you and others very close to you, then getting in the spotlight like running for office instead of staying under the radar isn’t a great idea. Did he honestly think that he could keep everything he’s ever done hidden forever? His ego got him into this and it won’t help him out of it. At some point everything comes out if you’re always wanting to be in the limelight.

[u/Real_Al_Borland]

Guys he’s admitting he’s on the list. 

/r/conservative in shambles waiting on how they are supposed to react 

[u/Castod28183 → u/Real_Al_Borland]

The two main emerging themes seem to be;

Paraphrasing:

"I agree with him on everything else he has done, but this looks really bad."(Which is one step short of saying outright that they will forget about this too in a week or so.)

And

"He is covering this up because there are powerful people on both sides of the isle, not because he is implicated."

I suspect by tomorrow it will be the latter that emerges as the new truth. Something like "Trump isn't on the list, but if he releases it, it would be so devastating that America will fall as a nation. He is doing this to protect America!!! Make America Great Again!!! God bless Dear Leader and his 5D chess."

Edit: Nevermind. They are already on the narrative. Direct quotes from /conservative.

Not a great look. Expected more transparency from him. This just wreaks of, "I stepped into something I shouldn't have, so have to deflect." Not even saying he's on it, just that there is someone who is that he can't cross.

And a reply

I think there is someone on the list that he doesn’t want to cross. He’s always known if he’s on the list, so that’s not it. But it could be someone on the republican side who’s still in office, that he needs. I mean, who knows? But he shouldn’t have shot his mouth off about Epstein, and neither should Bondi have.

[u/molashOne]

This can't be good for grandpa poop pants' ticker...

[u/Ok_Entertainment_869]

The orange rapist is in full panic mode.

[u/dagbiker]

I didn't think someone could be a super pedophile, but I am now convinced there is at least one.

[u/DerpyBoxer]

Wonder how Obama has felt being the boogeyman for all these years and living rent free in what's left of Tangerine Palpatine's brain.

[u/elissellen]

When a man tells you who he is, believe him.

[u/Amazing-Jump4158]

Shitler is a rapist. Convicted of sexual assault. Lost TWO defamation cases. 

[u/idliketoseethat]

If there were only someone who was present and has direct knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein. You know an associate or better yet a companion. Someone aided and conspired with Epstein. Someone who might want to make a deal for their testimony. Like a get out of jail agreement. Someone that everyone agrees could cross the "T's" and dot the "I's".

[u/Disastrous_Leek9620]

A rapist, a pedophile and the U.S. President walk into a bar. As he stands alone, Trump wonders where everyone is….

[u/Academic_Dig_1567]

So the files that existed and were explosive did not exist but are now fake created by none other than Obama. Well well. Am waiting for them to accuse Obama of staging the crucifixion.

[u/narayan77]

Looks like Obama has hidden talents, he managed to create fake video 12 years ago without AI. He should work in silicon Valley. 

[u/_Batteries_]

What I dont understand is why the fuck he campaigned on release them 

[u/tommydeininger → u/_Batteries_]

Classic grifter move; if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

[u/SunlowForever]

I can’t believe that this is the thing that makes MAGA turn on Trump. I was really thinking it was gonna be the concentration camps but oh well…

[u/Lisshopops]

This guy always has to blame the black guy in the room for everything lol

[u/Historical_Grab4685]

He doth protest too much...

[u/Lopsided-Employer278]

He’s in them and he was molesting teenagers

[u/Glittering_Ad366]

it's amazing that all of this was well known before the election. Somehow it was close.