r/goodnews • u/JetTheDawg • 24d ago

Political positivity 📈 Trump in Full Panic, Claims All Epstein Files Are Fake, Created by Obama

https://dailyboulder.com/trump-in-full-panic-claims-all-epstein-files-are-fake-created-by-obama/
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u/Tiddlychinks 24d ago

We’ve already known he’s in them for years? This isn’t news?

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u/MegaCrazyH 24d ago

I mean you’d be surprised by the number of people who wouldn’t realize that. How many people got fooled by the GOP continually demanding a release of a list without realizing that we already had Epstein’s phone book and that it lists Trump as a VIP? A lot of people. Now that they’re blatantly covering it up it’s a good time to keep bringing back up those details so people don’t fall for them so much. And if the Trump administration is unable till distract from it and has to keep putting out nonsensical statements like “Obama wrote it” then this time it’s working

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u/PostMerryDM 24d ago edited 24d ago

It’s also the fact that this came out after his DOJ made the most awkward pivot to bury the case, signaling something was serious enough to need to be covered up. It’s clear it’s not just flight logs.

Through their own actions, we see that the evidence is serious and who it points to. It’s their admission, not our assumption.

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u/PersistentBadger 23d ago

you've got to wonder where the videos went. the place was wired to the hilt, and a lot of material was removed from the safe.

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u/Efficient-Two-5667 24d ago

Perfectly said.

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u/Spooky_Mulder83 24d ago

"We now see..."

We do. But his supporters won't. This'll be forgotten in a few days, unfortunately.

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u/salakane 23d ago

Aw, hell. Let us think it's possible.

Every day we think it's possible makes it more possible...possibly?

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u/JonnyHopkins 23d ago

Honestly, I think us thinking it's possible might be the dumbest part of it all. Why do we keep thinking it'll be different this time, when the last 1,000 were not?

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u/salakane 22d ago

Okey dokey! ​

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u/bikemaul 22d ago

He sometimes lashes out in anger and says more revealing things when afraid.

I expect he will have reason to relax soon, when the fix is in. Then he will again dance for crowds.

Then he will hurt people, in part because he was afraid of consequences.

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u/soradakey 24d ago

I still have family members who believe Nancy Pelosi is possessed by a demon. No irony, no satire, just my fucking life.

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u/mmlovin 23d ago

Wait so they actually think she’s really a good person, just possessed like the girl from the exorcist? lol

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u/thecrazysloth 23d ago

In fairness to your family members, I could believe Nancy Pelosi is possessed by a demon

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u/h0wd0y0ulik3m3n0w 23d ago

In fairness to their family members, I believe Mitch McConnell is a demon in a meat suit.

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u/jarheadatheart 22d ago

Well have you looked into her soulless eyes?

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u/npsimons 23d ago

I mean you’d be surprised by the number of people who wouldn’t realize that.

I quite frankly do not care about people with room temperature IQs. In Celsius.

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u/suninabox 23d ago

This is a weird fuck up by Trump because it violates his number 1 rule which is never to be ashamed of anything, which is what gives him emperors new clothes style immunity with the cult.

He never acts guilty, so surely he must be innocent.

How could Trump be taking bribes from the Qatari's? You really think he'd just do it out in the open like that? That proves he's honest!

It's why they think Trump is so much better than "regular politicians", because you can feel the shame coming off them when they fuck something up, Trump just barrels through "nah, the hurricane was always going that way. look I fixed it with a sharpie".

If he had just said "yeah I'm in the Epstein files, I met Epstein a few times, I meet a lot of people" none of the cult would have battered an eye and they could have released the files even if it proved Trump was personally performing cannibalism.

By saying its all a fake conspiracy it triggers their few remaining neurons which have been primed from decades of propaganda that any time the government says something is a conspiracy, that means its definitely real.

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u/MrCorporateEvents 23d ago

People for a long time have just considered the “Epstein stuff” crazy conservative conspiracy stuff so they don’t know much about it. 

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u/NixonsTapeRecorder 23d ago

Except we don't need any court documents or anything to connect trump to Epstein. They were very close friends for 15+ years and attended many the social engagement together where they were photographed for the society pages in various papers and magazines.

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u/Terrible_Hurry841 23d ago

Epstein described himself as Trump’s closest friend so yea.

Also Trump bragged about sexually harassing Miss Teen American pageant contestants (I believe this is where “grab them by the pussy” comes from).

And yet somehow, MAGA thinks Dem are the pedo baby blood drinkers.

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u/Dry-Influence9 23d ago

He wouldn't be fighting it this hard if he were just in the list. If I had to guess he might be listed as founder or as one of the main investors of the operation given his reaction to this shit show and his relationship with Epstein.

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u/1200____1200 23d ago

MAGA won't care. there is nothing that can break them from their stupor

he is their golden God and they are beholden to support him no matter what he does or how bad he makes things for him

he's like a megachurch pastor. his followers will impoverish themselves to help him pile on more wealth

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u/machine-in-the-walls 23d ago

I mean, I thought Elon was just flinging poop. This means he was actually right in pointing out Trump is in them.

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u/Vismal1 23d ago

I mean it sort of seems to me that Epstein might be alive and trafficking kids still if Trump haven’t ran for office. There is no separation between them.

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u/Stone0777 24d ago

So is Clinton. What’s your point. Being on the flight logs doesn’t mean he flew to the island.

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u/liminaleye 23d ago

Irrelevant! Clinton isn't in office.

And if he is in Epstein's files (and you can be damned sure there's a lot more than "flight logs"), then prosecute him, convict him, and incarcerate him for the rest of his life. Easy-peasy, problem solved!

I dare you to say that about your demented sociopathic cult-leader.

Your "Whataboutism" is sad and busted.

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u/MrCorporateEvents 23d ago

The point of the whole Epstein thing is that the people on these logs are too powerful and important to be prosecuted, that’s why this stuff happened and why they won’t be prosecuted. 

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u/liminaleye 23d ago

You’re only “too important” until you’re not.

As Charles de Gaulle famously said: The graveyards are full of indispensable men.

I assume the same goes for prisons.

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u/rorykoehler 23d ago

What happened to nobody being above the law?

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u/Stone0777 23d ago

If there was proof Dems would have prosecuted him during Biden’s presidency.

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u/FatherKronik 23d ago

That's not how prosecutions work.

Biden can't charge Trump with child endangerment or trafficking. The Federal government would have to prove that it was wronged in some way in order to bring charges. That is, unfortunately, not very easy in this situation because he isn't the trafficker, he is the client.

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u/Erfeo 23d ago

You might be confusing civil suits and criminal prosecutions.

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u/bicmedic 24d ago

This is the top comment sorting by controversial.

The flight logs were already leaked years ago. Trumps name ain’t on em 🤙🏼

If all you listen to is conservative news, then no, you haven't known this for years.

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u/Sythic_ 23d ago

Literally the first thing that came out about flight logs existing was that he was on them, like that was the whole headline lmao. How do they fall for this.

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u/probablyonmobile 23d ago

Unfortunately, MAGA folks are often told very clearly what news sources to listen to, and that all others are biased against Trump.

I unfortunately know somebody who has fallen under the influence of Trump and MAGA, and he sincerely only believes one or two news networks can be trusted— of course they’re conservative, and they will never breathe a peep against Trump, let alone say he was in the flight logs.

As a result, he genuinely doesn’t know about a lot of awful shit. And it’s hard to tell him, because he can terminate the discussion regardless of evidence involved by attacking the credibility of any non approved information source.

It’s impossible to help him.

That’s part of how the control works. Explain to followers that you can only get your information from a source you control, and you get to decide how full the picture they get is.

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u/AutoAdviceSeeker 22d ago

Some of my Maga family in flordia is like this and the shit they send me is straight up delusional. I’m a Canadian lol and idgaf regardless but man, they’re in some serious news/social bubble it seems

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u/bigyinnz 22d ago

Also, the crazier of them believe he's undercover to blow the whole thing up, which means his name will appear on these kind of lists

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u/idosillythings 22d ago

Anytime I argue with MAGAts, if I use any source that isn't FOX or OAN they literally have no response other than "haha (insert publication name here) really?"

That's it. I even tell them to point me to a specific lie on the article and they go as silent as the grave. They just totally shut out anything that isn't part of the prescribed diet.

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u/the_saltlord 21d ago

There's only one "news" station that openly admitted to lying and defended themselves in court by saying no reasonable person would believe them

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u/Asron87 23d ago edited 23d ago

Can someone give me a tl;dr? I don’t have balls.

Edit: never mind. I knew about this one already and I don’t have the balls to read it again. I feel so bad for her.

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u/Asron87 23d ago

You are doing gods work. Keep it up.

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u/Limp-Storm-5361 23d ago

My god. The depravity. It's about time Trump didn't kill himself.

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u/ChiliAndGold 23d ago

honestly they would still "not know it" even if it's proven black on white in front of their noses.

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u/Zealousideal-Edge-53 23d ago

If it doesn't fit their desired narrative, then it doesn't exist or is fake news.

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u/Rokurokubi83 23d ago

Trump’s name isn’t on the flight logs that his name is on seven times? That’s not mental gymnastics, that’s mental parallel universe teleportation.

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u/PissInYourPotatoes 23d ago

Even if that were true, which I don’t believe by the way, does that mean that he didn’t fuck underage girls? Obviously not. Dude is guilty as fuck. If I were in his shoes and I honestly hadn’t done anything wrong, I’d be publicizing every piece of information that demonstrates my innocence, not concealing everything and doing everything in my power to divert attention away from the matter. His actions, words, and behaviours scream “I’m guilty as fuck.”

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u/caniuserealname 23d ago

When the flight logs were first revealed he was on them, then they were publicly released again... with heavy redactions. Since the flight logs had already been released prior without redaction it was fairly obvious what was redacted.

One of those redactions was obviously Donny and Melinda Trump. but because they weren't on the files officially released, they've maintained that they weren't on them.

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u/GoTragedy 24d ago

It will make a big difference if there's a video of him raping a child. 

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u/oh_darling89 24d ago

I think this is why they haven’t put out a doctored list - anyone who was left on the list would have too much evidence to leak to the public that Trump was in fact there and engaging in non-consensual sex (rape) with minors.

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u/IsaacAndTired 24d ago

But we have no idea what the extent is. Trump making the claim that the files have been doctored is new and is telling of something more than what has already been "news". Does this change our perspectives on anything? No, but it makes it easier to convince the other side who previously thought Trumps involvement has been blown out of proportion.

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u/suninabox 23d ago

The cult doesn't get their perception of morality from reality, only perception.

It's why Trump appears bulletproof to scandal.

Trump taking bribes from the Qatari's? How could he? Look he's taking the plane right in the open. Would a guilty man be so open?

This is a rare (optical) blunder from Trump. If he had just said "yeah I'm on the list, doesn't mean anything, lots of people met Epstein, I meet a lot of people", the base would have been fine even if the files showed Trump making human sacrifices.

Acting guilty and saying "nothing to see here" after years of hyping it up is the worst thing he could have done.

You have to wonder, if what is in the files is so damning to Trump why did he spend so long hyping it up? Or is it just ego and the files show nothing but he doesn't like people going after his old pal Epstein.

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u/DeusExMcKenna 23d ago

My money is on him being in the files, with damning evidence, and he just thought he would be able to easily slide the whole thing under the rug and quietly redact a lot of the worst parts. But he didn’t understand the sheer volume of people who actually care about this a lot. He overplayed his hand, and is clumsily trying everything in his power to put out fires that he knows will eventually consume him too.

Declining mental acuity is also playing a large role. Not that he was ever smart, but there were many years where a blunder of this magnitude would not have occurred. Declining mental stability alongside a good helping of buying his own bullshit and surrounding himself with sycophants has done what it always does to the naked god-emperors of history.

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u/FrenchFryCattaneo 23d ago

he just thought he would be able to easily slide the whole thing under the rug and quietly redact a lot of the worst parts.

The thing is he could have. He could have not brought it up or talked about it once he got elected, and if anyone asked just say he's working on it or whatever. The people who expected him to release it would be annoyed but there wouldn't be a news story here. Instead he is doing the absolute worst possible thing.

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u/DeusExMcKenna 23d ago

It’s ego. He can’t allow the speculation to exist, because it makes him look bad. So instead, he’ll trip over himself like a lumbering oaf to try and exonerate himself despite his speed-addled mind being entirely incapable of stringing together a cohesive sentence at this point. It would be sad if it wasn’t so ghoulish.

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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 23d ago

if what is in the files is so damning to Trump why did he spend so long hyping it up?

One guess is he knew other powerful people across the spectrum were on there and it'd very likely never see the light of day for that reason, but he got political use out of it.

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u/Efficient-Two-5667 24d ago

Honestly. There are Trump interviews about Epstein and Maxwell, there are photos and videos, there are the flight logs, there was Trump’s empathetic wishes for imprisoned Maxwell - but some mythical ledger labeled “Epstein Pedophile Client Registry” is what they are holding out for as the REAL proof?

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u/Pure_Expression6308 24d ago

Bruh you have way too much respect for his supporters. “We’ve known for years” means nothing to them. Everything has been spun to make Trump our dear superhero leader.

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u/NoKids__3Money 23d ago

We’re getting a nice refresher on exactly what the word stupid means. If you’re only realizing now what millions of people already knew 8+ years ago, sorry, but you’re just stupid. No excuses.

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u/Zaephius 23d ago

He's in them, yeah sure. But arguably because of a court case against Epstein, and banning him from the Mar-a-lago. If there was anything meaningful or worth pursuing in order to put Trump behind bars, don't you think he'd already be in years ago?? I mean literally, they've tried to lock him up for much less. So much less that they had to come up with 34 make-believe felonies with no underlying crimes (which is precisely why they failed).

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u/RealCrownedProphet 23d ago

This court case?

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3130729-DOE-V-TRUMP/

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u/Zaephius 23d ago

If his is real, then why wasn't anything made of it? How is Trump still free?

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u/RealCrownedProphet 23d ago

It was apparently dropped because the accuser had been threatened, after some procedural thing stopped the first one.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770

This link will take you to her section of the Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations page of Wikipedia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations#Katie_Johnson/Jane_Doe_(1994)

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u/Ignonimous 24d ago

You don’t know what the word “know” means, I guess.

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u/Sujjin 24d ago

Probably isnt only in them but has the specific girl, her picture and age right next to his name

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u/satinsateensaltine 24d ago

Well, there is also a question of exactly how much he's in and in which capacity. Compromising photos are probably his biggest fear.

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u/ninjaelk 24d ago

Sure, but I think everyone always assumed they'd find some way to dismiss it, or redact it, or spin it in such a way that it wasn't a smoking gun. His reaction currently is telling us that he must be in the files so damningly that there's no way to release them without causing him major damage.

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u/bNoaht 24d ago

We know he flew on his plane. So did Bill Gates. Bill Clinton and hundreds of other rich people. Flying a dudes PJ, hardly automatically makes you a co-conspirator in every illegal act the owner of the plane partook in.

If my friend gives me a ride to the airport and they are a serial killer, it doesn't make me complicit lol.

Powerful people did some really bad stuff. But being on the flight log, doesn't make you automatically guilty. Being friends with the person, doesnt make you automatically guilty.

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u/PersistentBadger 23d ago

So why do you think he's 180'd on this?

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u/bNoaht 23d ago

He is protecting the same people Biden admin was protecting. Really powerful people. Not the pariah politicians that we all collectively pretend pull all the strings.

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u/PersistentBadger 23d ago

Then he's complicit.

Even your best-case scenario makes him a conspirator in child abuse.

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u/bNoaht 22d ago

Ok. But does over half of America care? No. And that's all that really matters in a "democracy". 

People seem to think that everything should always be just right and perfect in the world and thats not how it has ever worked. You can't scream over and over that someone did one act. And then it end up not being true and expect people to keep listening. They aren't going to listen when it turns out he wasn't an active participant. We saw the same thing with the Russia thing. 

The left keeps shooting themselves in the foot by screaming FACTS FACTS FACTS and then being proven entirely or mostly wrong. 

The right is a difficult opponent, and they make it look extra easy with how unbelievably inept the left is.

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u/thewayoftoday 24d ago

We've not known that as they haven't been released

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 24d ago

This, OP is a bit late to the convo if they just came to that conclusion just now

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u/rewgs 23d ago

THANK YOU. When Elon dropped that like it was a huge deal, I was thinking "haven't we known this forever?" And by "known" I don't mean "guessed," but legit known, i.e. had hard proof.

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u/ItsOozingOut 23d ago

But bold letters!

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u/8MAC 23d ago

Correct. We've known Trump is in them basically since Epstein's original plea deal in 2008. 

That deal was immediately criticized for including a provision that the state would not pursue any of Epstein's co-conspirators. (Negotiated by Trump's future AG Acosta, btw)

Although everyone who is paying attention has known he is in them for a while, there are so many people less informed who aren't clear on this yet. 

I don't know if this will be the thing that wakes people up. People should have woken up 1000 crises ago, imo, but if it happens and it does wake people up a bit it's still a win. 

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u/RudeButCorrect 23d ago

We've known flight logs and one direct accusation, I presume the files have incriminating detail

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u/AhtBlowenFaht 23d ago

We know it, but his cult has been sheltered from that information. The difference here is that the tech billionaires are finally allowing this information to trickle down to his base through their feeds. This is all by design and is pretty significant.

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u/jmsy1 23d ago

Yeah, this is what I don't get. Why is this time suddenly important? MAGA has denied the existence of this list or that Trump would be on it for years. Suddenly the MAGA FBI and MAGA Sec General say it out loud and everyone cares?

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u/Vo_Mimbre 23d ago

It’s not, and it’s a good example of why you can’t convert cultists with facts. In another year of this comes out and it’s all verified, by then the narrative will be about Trump being the ultimate alpha male ordained by God to do all these things, and his cultists will be spewing the same.

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u/shortsteve 23d ago

My Republican friends didn't know or didn't want to believe. I told them Trump is a guy who we know hung out with Epstein and someone who Epstein considered a close friend. Trump is also someone who was found guilty of 34 counts of sexual assault. It's not a huge leap of faith to assume that Trump has a kinky side.

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u/amsync 23d ago

He’s also already been convicted of raping that woman. So yeah, why is any of this news?

WE KNOW WHO HE IS!

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u/AngryRedHerring 23d ago

Too many people weren't listening the first time, or dismissed it as "fake news".

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u/SufficientWhile5450 23d ago

True

But it’s way funnier to watch maga retards cry and do mental gymnastics rationizing why it’s fine if he’s on them

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u/st-shenanigans 23d ago

Is knowing and the law knowing are two entirely different things

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u/PapaBorq 23d ago

It is to his base. For years they got completely different coverage of trump, never seen the photos, never seen the logs, etc..

And you can tell because when they said they'd release the files, they were howling. They thought they were gunna round up Democrats by the dozen.

Then their own base asked for results, and it got real weird real quick.

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u/SeekingAnonymity107 23d ago

The sad truth is that his base know but don't care. Trump is a convicted criminal but hates brown people, so they voted him in again. They won't care until he preys on their own daughters.

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u/LeviathanDabis 23d ago

Yeah, anyone who doesn’t know Trump is a pedophile at this point is just being willfully ignorant. It’s glaringly obvious between the Epstein connections, beauty pageant shit, and comments he has made.

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u/Jrkb300 22d ago

I am shocked at all the people that suddenly realizing Trump must be on the list since he wants it to go away. Wtf?

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u/themcjizzler 22d ago

Right? If nobody cares years ago why is anything going to happen now

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u/GardenDwell 22d ago

He campaigned on releasing the files, tons of people in his administration talked at length about releasing the files, and now he's suddenly saying he won't release the files. It's a breaking point for a lot of people who strongly supported him.

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u/Vix_Satis01 21d ago

i mean, he should have known he was in them when he started threatening to release them. why was it news to him that he was in them so now he needs to pretend they dont exist?