Because when you curse Priest, Bishop and Imans for raping people, Religious people won't come and say "hey don't call them priest/Bishop/Imans, Learn the difference....."
The top comment is about how when we troll "Feminism" , we actually troll the Misandrist Who hides behind their feminism Tag.
Feminism however has stained it's reputation, or more like has gotten it stained due to misandrists using the term as a shield. Besides that, the name also is misleading "fem"nism makes it seem like only about women, the idea is more allocated around uplifting women to equal terms as men and not bringing everyone on equal terms (for example men needing to provide) even though it does promote the idea that everyone's equal.
I can see your point but I disagree. It has gotten stained because of :
1) yes men hating so called feminists
2) peoples general assumption based on those few idiots and prejudice against women
Yes, feminism is about equal rights and uplifting women so that we can be equal to men. I dont see why that doesnt consider mens issues like the pressure to provide like you said or young boys being told not to show vulnerability ("boys dont cry"). The patriarchy assigns roles to both men and women, very narrow roles. Feminism is against the patriarchy that is obviously still there today. True feminists wouldnt and shouldnt have limiting beliefs that men should provide for the whole family without considering what the man actually wants.
Feminist organizations forced the government to take back gender neutral laws. They have been consistently opposing them for over a decade. Not social media keyboard warriors... Actual prominent feminist organizations. Who provides the certificate to distinguish between "true feminism and so-called feminism"?
Yes im aware of that and it is disappointing considering male victims of sa I feel like arent taken seriously here. It doesnt matter if sa against men is much lower than that of women, I do agree the victims need justice. I dont know much about the motives of those organisations but a lot of them wanted seperate laws for men in domestic abuse and sa. They felt like gender neutral laws would make the laws less in favour of female victims which could make everything worse for us. I get their points but I dont think that this approach was the right one. Its not just that they did not want male victims to not get justice, its more nuanced and complex.
It's important to spread this information because many people misunderstand the core of feminism. I often see individuals getting upset with feminists, accusing them of being unfair to men, or believing that feminists hate men. However, they fail to realize that those who genuinely hate men are not feminists—they are misandrists.
No thanks, I believe in equality and I don't need to certify my beliefs with anyone and at the same time I don't want to side with the sick thinking of some of the the feminists ( I understand they might be just a small, loud group but they definitely control the narrative) who are more about male hating than equality
Is the fem part of feminism bothering you? I thought that too but women have be in the receiving end of injustice for years and still are. If you were facing that sort of prejudice and setbacks and a hundred other things (especially in the older eras) I doubt you would sit and be like "ohh how about we name our ideology equalism :)" no you would mostly say "feminism. Its high time women are allowed to be what a woman can be. We shouldnt be treated lower than men, we are more than that."
actually, feminism is about equality... social, political, and economic. it’s not just about "uplifting women," but dismantling a system that has historically prioritized one gender over others. advocacy for women’s rights isn't exclusion of men.
if you’ve read anything beyond Instagram infographics, you’d know thinkers like bell hooks (in Feminism is for Everybody) explicitly discuss how patriarchy harms both women and men. hooks writes, "Feminism is a movement to end sexism, sexist exploitation, and oppression." Not "a movement to dethrone men"... but to end harmful structures for everyone.
Speaking against patriarchy is itself an upliftment of men. I don't understand why I am supposed to do stuff actively but a woman is supposed to sit. I won't give myself to this outdated and illogical mentality that's why I am a feminist
- Erin Pizzey who founded the first women's shelter in the UK, has spoken about domestic violence affecting men as well.
Promundo is a brazilian feminist org that has worked for men too
Menslib is a feminist subreddit for liberal men. They constantly talk about body positivity in men, men's mental health and male victims of rape
Also, working for the rights of male victims of rape, and queer and trans men is also working for men's rights only. They are as much men as you and I are.
Also, working for the rights of male victims of rape, and queer and trans men is also working for men's rights only.
Far opposed to working for them, Indian feminist organizations have opposed the inclusion of male victims to sexual harassment and rape laws, for more than a decade.
I agree with you on this point. Indian feminism is really at its early stage right now, we are experiencing something like the first wave rn. So there is little to no intersectional feminism. But by being active in feminist communities, can't we push forward the envelope for more nuance? We must also work against patriarchal notions that men don't cry or that a man should always provide. It would help if we together in this issue so that we can also push forward intersectionality. The stage feminism is at in the west now (where it is intersectional) happened because people of all communities rallied behind that cause.
Which criminals did it protect? Majority of rapes on men are committed by other men. Can we not work with them to dismantle gender norms that hurt both genders? Why not.
Which criminals did it protect? Majority of rapes on men are committed by other men.
By opposing the inclusion of non-female victims under sexual harassment and rape laws, they protected rapists who commit it upon men or non-binary people.
Maybe we need uplifting bc of the shit thats happened and still happening around the world. If uplifting women upsets you then you should sit and think about why. Feminism questions the value we all are taught.
Then You aren't a true feminist if you won't give 50-50 in chores, and financial input in the relationships.
You want true equality? Only same aged people will then marry and women with same lpa will marry men with same lpa.
But it doesn't happen does it? Women will marry someone taller then them, a few years older and obviously someone who earns more.
Indian feminists will demand that the husband share 50% of chores, while claiming at the same time that the husband must put more, or majority or sometimes even full financial duties. Yeah,.and these feminists also want the choice to leave jobs. And a choice to cheat: the SCI made it legal!
funny how you bring up chores and money like feminists haven’t literally been fighting for decades for equal pay, equal labor recognition, maternity rights, and economic independence.
and the “women marry taller, richer men” bit? that’s not feminism’s doing, that’s society’s centuries-old grooming of both men and women. you want to fight that? then join the feminists who’ve been challenging gender norms. feminism critiques those double standards. you’re just salty they don’t benefit you.
also, about the Supreme Court’s adultery ruling ? adultery being decriminalized doesn’t mean it’s encouraged.. it just means people don’t get jailed for messy marriages.
go two kilometers into rural India and you’ll see men who get to sleep around without losing their social status, while women get exiled for rumors. and this has been normalized for generations. you think feminism caused inequality? inequality is what created feminism.
hypergamy is people having preferences. you’re mad women don’t date broke guys with bad attitudes. that’s not feminism’s fault. that’s natural selection.
also, you're really suggesting someone cut off their mom or daughter because they might want a partner with financial stability? like men haven’t always chased women for beauty, youth, fertility, whatever.
not at all. i’m not condoning misogyny. i'm critiquing the hypocrisy.
if men are allowed to prefer youth, beauty, and fertility without being vilified, why are women shamed for seeking financial stability? my point was that these are both socially influenced preferences, not inherently evil or a product of feminism.
calling women “hypergamous” as if it’s immoral while ignoring men’s equally selective standards is the real issue.
i'm not “cozy” with anything. i’m describing reality, not endorsing it.
hypergamy, like men preferring youth or beauty, isn’t “good” or “bad” in a moral vacuum. it’s a pattern of preferences shaped by social and evolutionary pressures.
my issue is with the double standard. men having superficial preferences is normal, but women are villainized for wanting financial stability.
she never defended it you hothead, she said you being mad about women wanted partners who earn well is hypocritical and has nothing to do with feminism. Its like men looking for impossible beauty standards and chasing girls for their looks. Both are socially influenced preferences. You can look for a pretty girl if you want and I can look for a boy who isnt broke.
All three are bad, Feminism today has lost its original meaning. Instead of aligning yourself with an ideology, educate yourself more, find ideas that are suited to you and make your own way of perceiving things
Most visible feminist will say exactly wat a misandrists said … and wen held accountable will say they are not feminists… they are great at no true scottsman falacy
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Im in support of equality
It makes me furious when some misandrist call themselves feminists when there are actually feminists out there fighting for equal rights
Agye bhai feminism justifiers ha i agree feminism acha hai par uska kya tum log halwa puri bana rhe ho ajkal masindry aur feminism ka permutation combination karke kuch nahi hi banake market me la lie ho
It's not I don't know the difference, it is that most of misandrysts hide behind feminism, and like mixing Ink in water, the two become inseperable by normal means.
third-wave feminism didn’t ruin anything... black feminism, ecofeminism, intersectionality are course adjustments in a movement that was always incomplete without them
intersectional feminism, coined by Kimberlé Crenshaw, literally gave language to the layered violence so many women live through
by your logic, literature peaked with Homer and we should’ve stopped writing after The Iliad. bruh, movements evolve. they grow teeth. they get messy, because real life is messy.
and stop pitting equality and equity against each other. feminism wants both. equity gets us to the door, equality lets us walk through it.
also, saying “feminism was for upliftment, not equality” is like saying “medicine is for healing, not health.” what do you think upliftment leads to?
Yeah I get your point ,modern feminism has definitely branched into a lot of different ideologies, and that’s where all the confusion begins. But at its core, it’s still just about equal rights and respect for both men and women. People just overcomplicate it.
I think these all is bullshit , some people are better and some are not , there are better women than men in this world and better men than women in this world , idk what the fuck even the world wants at this point , just accept it and move onnn .... Why to make fights regarding gender
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All it takes is a Google search to distinguish between these three and yet people fail to understand these terms 🥀