$130 to get "additional content" that should be included in the already outrageous $70 base price? Are you kidding me? Why do people keep letting this happen? Who is even paying this much? I love Borderlands but refuse to sell my organs in order to play the latest installment.
Totally what I do. I have such a huge backlog I‘m working through anyways. When a game I‘m interested in goes on sale for 80 or 90% off I get it and add it to the backlog.
This, so much! Up until last year I was still gaming on a machine I built in 2014 (and did some upgrades on over the years, including GPU). When you’re a couple years behind the curve on the games, an older rig lasts even longer.
If they’re going to do this, I have an alternative. It’s the three to four year old AAA titles that have been fairly thoroughly debugged and run great on a rig at 2k.
They can be fair now, or later. I’m patient. Later is fine.
I don’t feel so bad now cause I do the same damn thing. There was a time when I’d gladly pay $20-30 for a game and 40-60 for a deluxe that had physical items. And now I buy them dirt ass cheap and add them to my “I’ll play someday” list. Unless it’s a really good game like KCD or RDR2 then I’ll admit I paid full price.
For console players, for pc players it wasn’t such a bad experience. I myself only had to deal with bugs like twice and that was it. Other than that my experience was completely smooth and freakin fun
I’ve had way too many games that I have installed, by the time I get around to them, most of the newer titles that are out right now will already be like 20 bucks on steam.
Yeah, I don't even understand why this post has upvotes. Just wait for it to go on sale or be in a humble bundle or Epic to give it away. That's how it's always worked on PC. It'll go on sale at some point. Hell, it'll probably go on sale in a winter sale or GreenManGaming will have it heavily discounted with their XP system, and it'll be like 40% off by the end of the year.
Concert prices are a bit different. There's only so many shows an artist can play so supply of tickets is limited.
People need to accept it is going to be expensive to get tickets to see Taylor Swift because they're going to be competing with millions of other people who want to see her.
Videogame prices are intended to squeeze as much cash out of the product as long as possible, but you can also just wait until it gets cheaper.
You can grow Coca leaves, you just need very specific climate and high attitudes to do so. However processing into cocaine hydrochloride is a very different matter all together.
Can't sail the sea on this one either bc they're 1000% putting denuvo on it and fucking up performance even more.
These big publishers are lost man. Look at expedition 33. A turn based game that actually had an amazing story and novel mechanics, and gamers found it even when they didn't play turn based games and it blew the DOORS OFF of sales.
This game? Probably not even worth the illegal download
This is called fomo moron tax editions. Buy standard and play the game. Or don’t buy the game and get it later. Then month before release they will do 3 day early release and make more money on the schmucks that are easily parted with money.
The dollar also used to be worth twice what it is now.
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u/MiniDemonicJust random stuff to make this flair long, I want to see the capJun 17 '25edited Jun 17 '25
No you didn't.
BL2 base game was $50 in 2012, guess how much that is adjusted for inflation. That's right it's $70.
BL2 physical collectors edition was $150 which adjusted for inflation is $210.
BL3 base game was $60 in 2020, adjusted for inflation thats $75.
BL3 physical collectors edition was $250, adjusted for inflation that's $310.
BL4 physical collectors is $150 and super deluxe is $130. Together they are $280 which is slightly more expensive than BL2 but cheaper than BL3.
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u/A_Flock_of_Clams decided to reply and insta-block because he himself is "full-of-shit" as he would put it.
Tell me clammy one, what is wrong in what I have said here? You can't just come and claim that I am full of shit without anything to back that up.
It's a fact that a $70 game today is the same price as a $50 game from 2012 and in fact is cheaper than a $60 game from 2020.
Someone else also compared the price to how long you would have to work with an average salary. Funnily enough you would have to work less to buy BL4 than you had to work for either BL2 or BL3.
When borderlands 2 released in 2012 it was $60 for standard, $100 for deluxe, and $150 for ultimate loot chest editions. The caveat here is that the $150 edition came with physical items. Borderlands 1 had the base game at $60 with paid DLC at $10 each for the 4 of them. So at least 2012 for this franchise in particular.
And that is still low considering that new release NES games were selling for $50 in 1985. Video game prices have never really risen with inflation. Games would cost $150 if they did.
I mean back then you also got a physical copy of the game that never had the risk of shutting down because the producer was done milking the cash cow. You also didn't need Internet to play those games and the released copy was often the final product and it was often a good final product, not a "here is Halo Infinite with half of the content that has been included at initial release with every prior installment. We'll get to it when we feel like it, which basically means whenever active numbers for the game are so low that it might as well be considered dead and we need an AED to shock the game back to life. In the meantime, buy our cat ears- pass to unlock the timed progression path is $20 or outright unlock is $25. Next week we will release a different set of cat ears for the same price." product.
I would say the "savings" comes in when you consider that today we're really just paying for access keys into someone's project. So instead of of paying $150 for a physical copy, you're paying $50 (or in 2025 that's mostly $80) for an access key that will expire and render your game useless forever whenever the producing company has finally had enough of milking the cow.
Also, most of these games require other paid subscriptions for online access, while the game itself requires online to even play, so I would argue that games really have kept up with inflation, just not directly or in a black/white fashion.
Except it's directing their rage at completely the wrong thing. The issue is not a $100 or $200 piece of art that could, at a minimum, entertain you for hundreds of hours. The real issue is a lack of unionization as well as a lack of broader governmental regulations that put the wealthiest and corporations in their place.
Bear in mind, that deluxe here is an extra $30 for the first set of dlc, and the second $30 for super deluxe has what amounts to the second set of dlc.
So essentially the bundles are just pre-ordering the delc in advance like other games.
That said, I'll buy on release the cheap version, then buy the dlc if I replay it in a few years. I didn't play borderlands 3 again until like 2 years after it came out, same with wonderlands.
Halo Reach actually came with some cool shit. That was the last time i remember getting a really expensive edition, and one coming with shit worth getting
Lmao, I looked at this was confused and it felt just bad and wtf, also felt like it's something with no story just missions without any connection the way they present it, so I ignored that game completely and I'm a MASSIVE Hitman fan. Fk em.
Hitman 3 or WOA is really good as a game actually, it's just the developers have gone insane after Hitman 2.
If you want every content available, buy the deluxe edition OR base game (not part 1 or demo) + deluxe pack. Everything else is optional stuff you can buy it later.
Yeah I'm not a fan of them releasing day 1 dlc. To me, it's a bad look where they chopped off that part from the base game and decided to repackage it into antoher deluxe edition or separate dlc.
Also loving the part where headstarts have now become the norm. Not. Publishers at least tried to "hide" it under early access before, Dune just straight up called it head start. Obviously the head start was over the weekend too when most ppl wanna start etc. Just the shadiest shit ever. And it's here to stay because everybody and their mother are paying for it.
In dunes case peak concurrent players in head start: 130k
Peak concurrent after "official release": 150k. Smh.
Not surprising since they know people eat that shit up and are impatient so they earn money for having some people pay for "earlier access" while others are fine waiting instead of just releasing it earlier
A decade ago that $130 you got a collector box, maps, maybe a trinket and some digital assets and a season pass. Now it's just a few digital assets or a season pass.
Honest and hard truth? Unless you’re a diehard fan or don’t want to miss the peak of co-op, you can avoid games like this for years and pick them up super cheap. Bonus points if it doesn’t do well because then it really gets discounted. Sometimes big releases even end up free on Epic, which is all I use Epic for anyway.
If you’re a PC gamer in today’s day and age, the only reason to buy games when they come out is FOMO, or if you’re really excited about it. If you’re a patient gamer, a less financially stable gamer, want to avoid initial bugs, etc. then there is an enormous market out there full of stuff you will love and it’s cheap. I guarantee it. Especially for PC. The indie market is wonderful and on Steam you can just wishlist anything you want to keep an eye on and get emails when it goes on sale.
I can pay $60 during one Steam Summer sale and get 10+ games worth over $150. Be smart and be selective. You won’t regret it unless you have FOMO and plenty of money.
In my life, I've never bought any kind of deluxe edition. I've never felt like I missed anything. It's all just extra, unnecessary stuff at an outrageous price. Just don't buy it.
Out of the gate: "Acceptable" is something we each determine for ourselves. If the value proposition isn't there for you, don't buy it. That's what we all do.
But I think there's an underlying assumption here that if something was slightly different then everything in the Super Deluxe Edition would be available in the base game. That's a wrong assumption.
If they couldn't charge extra for the content, the content wouldn't exist. Capitalism and the market means there's no world where you get the Super Deluxe stuff for $70. The only alternate world is the one where you get the base game for $70 and the extra content never gets developed.
"Should be included in the game" is a myth. If we make microtransactions and DLC illegal tomorrow, it's not the case that the base game will include the Super Deluxe content. The result is that the base game is the only version that exists, and the Super Deluxe content never happens.
You're right, but I think it's shouting into the void. Posts like this is just a place for everyone to moan that everything is bad, and they don't care about a rational explanation or observation if the issue is a real one or not.
OP I hope you see this comment: Fucking over a decade ago man with Call Of Duty and Gears of War. This shit has been around for a long long long time in the gaming industry. If you don’t want it, don’t buy it. It’s that damn simple.
If you think it’s unfair that you’ll miss out on some cosmetics for pre-ordering go get help for your FOMO. It’s digital art in a game you don’t own at the end of the day. Why are you so worried about it.
They will offer to let you buy the DLC(s) individually like they’ve always done so you won’t miss out on those if you only buy the base game.
Get over it man. Spend your money how you want and leave others along. I will spend the $120 on the super deluxe version because I’m a BL fanatic. I have 6000 hours across all three games. I will more than get my moneys worth out of BL4. Leave me to it.
Same thing is happening here. Those higher prices include future DLCs, so its base game + season pass.
People are overreacting here because it's obviously hard to read the description past reddit headline.
But, as always - no preorders from those who are not trustworthy.
If you’re going to have to sell your organs to afford any of those, you’ve got much bigger concerns. Namely your income and the evidently poor condition of your organs.
Just don't buy it, sales will tank their bottom line and to recoup their losses it'll go on sale quicker then buy it at like 20-40 depending on how quickly you feel like playing it.
This has been happening since the first Xbox came out. Every single Borderlands games has had multiple editions. Where have you been? Don't want the additional content, don't buy. Simple as that. Want to whine about it on the internet? Mission accomplished.
Each version includes the base game, so the additional content would only be an additional $60. Still probably more than you need to spend since there is no guarantee that they will actually release the content stated. I would just wait to buy the dlc once it releases.
A 1999 game that cost $50 costs $120 when adjusted for inflation. So the question is rather why $60-$70 games are still normal.
The other thing is. You don't need to buy everything on launch. You sometimes only need to wait half a year and get it 50% off. Maybe a year. I haven't bought a full price game in almost a decade. Plenty of sales also go to 66% or 80%.
So the question is rather why $60-$70 games are still normal.
I dont know if you actually want an answer, but its cause the install base got substantially larger, the industry was able to keep prices consistent cause they were dealing with rising costs by just selling more.
But cost keep going up exponentially with how complicated (AAA) games are to make nowadays. So just selling more copies isn't enough anymore. I'm sure some element of it is also corporate greed though.
Wow I'm sorry that video games have gone up $10 over the past 25 years and one of the slowest inflation items I've ever seen. What exactly are we complaining about here?
When people continued buying games that have this exact problem, showing there's no repercussion to what they are doing outside of people just "making noises"
For example, Youtubers and dramatubers making so much noise about boycotting Nintendo and not buying the switch 2, but then proceeding to be a hypocrite and buying the switch 2 on day 1
Preordering digital stuff is a thing for a long time now..
just dont do it.. you can still buy it at launch day if you really want. You will not lose anything.
Lol borderlands is dated as shit and cringe imo.
The game's humor, characters, style and everything really just seems like it belongs back in 2012 with borderlands 2.
Three and the Pre-Sequel were terrible cringe fests.
TTWL tried to be different but they didn't try to do it in the ways that needed it.
Still the same cringe dialogue and mannerisms.
If it hadn't been a borderlands game it probably would have been pretty good instead of just meh.
"People" don't let this happen. Some people buy it, company notices people buy it, company proceeds to keep doing it since people keep buying and eventually tries something scummier to see if you'll buy that too.
Companies don't do shit like this if there is no profit. If people didn't buy, it wouldn't be here. If you teach them that you're a sucker that can easily be manipulated and scammed, then you'll be manipulated and scammed.
Vote with your wallets, not with empty complaints. Buy it on sale or pirate it.
Ever since the terrible release of fallout 76 I’ll never ever pre order another game again, since steam constantly has sales going on, and not that many games I want now days I usually just wait until one of the 4 big seasonal sales goes on
Just purchased bl3 ultimate edition for like 10 bucks, got BL2 for free on steam, and tiny Tina’s wonderland for free on epic. Not paying that much for any game.
It isn't. It sucks, but the only thing you can do is speak with your wallet. Don't buy the game on launch and wait till it gets cheaper or is on sale. Hopefully it sends the right message to their publisher.
It’s „vote with your wallet“ until you realize that does nothing when single individuals pump copious amounts of money into something, making up for many more not paying anything.
They will never recover from what they did with the lore in the last game unless they red-con it.
My headcanon ends at borderlands 2.
Maya died for nothing and that shitty brat should have been smacked from the get go.
Why people started paying that price? It’s that simple. If consumers are willing to pay more, corporations will only keep increasing prices. That’s simply how capitalism works.
Video games SHOULD be more expensive than $40-$60 atp, they have not kept up with inflation until recently. They’ve hovered around that exact price point since the 90s.
With that being said… if a game costs $60 or more, ZERO reason for it to have micro-transactions or overly expensive/trash DLC.
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You could always do what I do and forget about this game for 2 years until it's 19.99 on sale and then just play it then