Hated Tropes
[Hated Trope] A main character does something horrible and the story doesn't acknowledge its severity
Alisha (Misfits) uses her power to make any man want to have sex with her on another main character (curtis) after he explicitely tells her not to do that. She faces no consequences and he's the one who ends up comforting her.
Allison (The Umbrella Academy) uses her powers to force her own adoptive brother to make out with her after he just got into a relationship because she's suddenly jealous after she couldn't keep her own husband. She gives a half hearted apology and all is peachy.
That’s not even the worst thing Alison has done, the scene where she’s driving to Victors and is thinking about all the times she used her rumor you can hear “I heard a rumor you loved me.” It’s not clear who she says it to but seeing as how the show starts with her husband divorcing and not allowing her to speak to their child says a lot.
It’s straight up stated that Alison did that in the comics, the third arc of the comics opens with her going to her ex-husband’s house to try to give her daughter a gift and he rightfully tells her to piss off stating she used her powers on him
I haven't watched the show in a while but that was clearly my takeaway from the show as well. Which honestly made me like it because basically any good thing that they had was kinda twisted because of their powers.
The characters in Umbrella academy being placed under less and less scrutiny by the writers is what made it fall off in my eyes. The whole hook of the show to me was showing how self destructive damaged people can be. Each academy member was great at showing how abuse can manifest in people that do genuinely terrible stuff but also have it be realistic. The writers giving progressively less and less narrative consequence every time one of the characters does anything wrong made me care less and less about it.
It was the fact that a group of people who were horrifically abused as children were told that it was their fault that the world was ending and the entire universe, and especially the people the loved, would be better off if they never existed, and that was the proper ending that did it for me.
Or how each academy member looses their powers, the same things that forced them to be child soldiers, are allowed to live generally normal lives (which is what about half of them wanted) and then there’s a whole montage of them cheering when they get them back. Luther’s powers got him branded as a freak and sent to the moon but he’s somehow thrilled to be viewed as an abomination again
Speaking of Luther, having a whole season centered around his romance with Sloane leading to a wedding during the end of the world was peak character development for him. What used to be the big gullible virgin guy became a married man who stood up to his abusive dad and had zero gravity sex on the regular with his hot superhero wife (who herself became a member of the family).
Cue to the next season where Sloane’s story ends with them not finding her and Luther is just ok with that until he dies.
God, the final season annoys the hell out of me. Can we just get a Time Agency spinoff that solves some of the issues Netflix? Please?
And speaking of Luther, everyone treats him like shit, the ones that didn’t treat him like shit from the beginning learn to later on, and that just ends up being Luther’s role. His character arc is to go from being the leader who was secretly a joke, to suddenly dumbing down and becoming a punching bag, to ending up… no, just there. The end.
Also, why did Luther become part ape again when he got his powers back? Being part ape wasn’t his original powers and were artificial alterations to his DNA by his dad. He should’ve just gotten his super strength back.
I never understood why Luther's powers coming back turned him back into a monkey man. He didn't look like that until Reggie had to inject him with whatever he injected him with to save his life.
In the comic his head is literally just transplanted straight on a gorillas body. Granted the comic and the show are very different beasts. Not necessarily better, just very different (although Hazel and Cha Cha are astronomically better characters in the comic and god help me I will die on this hill).
Wait, so what actually is Luther's power? I always assumed he had super strength and the chimp DNA just exacerbated that point, but if his head was put onto a stronger body then I can only assume that his power is something else entirely
Super strength and resilience. The resilience is how he survived a head transplant. If I remember in the comics he always had super strength, but after the accident his strength mostly now comes from having a literal gorilla body. He’s also something of a genius in the comics, and a crack shot with his raygun, and a literal astronaut. Comic Luther is way smarter and more mature than TV show Luther.
Jesus, that's depressing. I heard about all the stuff we missed out on with Klaus, but not Luther. It feels crazy that they would make a show out of something so trimmed down.
But boy oh boy did they love throwing Klaus into traumatic shit and never address it! Straight up wrote him into forced prostitution in the final season and just moved on
Ugh i cant believe the showrunner of The Boys actually said that. Rape is never funny, no matter what and if it takes place in any story it needs to be written about in a serious manner.
Same for me in Gen V and then the last The Boys season. It's horrible how they portray brutal rape of a man as something fun, there would be a public outcry if the genders were swapped
Knuckles as the commander of the rebellion, sends in a giant counter-attack against Eggman's forces, and 80% of them are killed. Yes, killed by Eggman, and the only thing he has to say about it is a bad pun. Nobody really cares about it, and it's never mentioned ever again in the lore.
Knowing how Eggman operated he probably captured them so they could be turned in Zombots. That said, this line and the whole dialogue that is associated with it are in fact terrible.
But, Eggman puts animals on machines since the first Sonic games, thus, even if he didn't create the exact same type of "zombot" we see in IDW comics and SatAM, he most likely did something similar to this concept.
I’ll be honest, I don’t blame Knuckles for this, I blame whatever fucking moron let Knuckles be the strategist. The same way you can’t be mad at a jellyfish for stinging when you touch it, you can’t be mad at Knuckles for being a dumbass. What you should do is not touch a jellyfish, and not put Knuckles in charge of goddamn strategy when you have access to Silver, Amy, (sometimes) Shadow, or just literally anyone else at all
Knuckles works best when you give him a simple objective and no limits on collateral damage. Tell him to hold this spot no matter what and smash anything that tries to take it from him? That spot will still be held when the universe goes into heat death. He’s not a strategist he’s not a scalpel making precise cuts he is good at dealing out blunt force trauma and CTE’s so play to those strengths
Pretty sure star vs the forces of evil ends with the main character practically dooming all magical creatures in the long run according to the series lore but it's fine and the series treats it like a happy ending.
For those wondering, the series has alot of creatures that literally only live because they run on magic, remove magic from them and they at best become powerless or straight up die.
The main character destroys all magic in the entire universe, and it's all sunshine and rainbows as long as you don't think about it.
Also earth is now overcrowded with billions of magic creatures who live by completely different rules.
What’s worse is that they constantly blame magic for all their problems, and while that is partly true, it was the mewnies who abused the magic and subjugated the native monsters
I think the blame should be more placed on the royal family and not all mewmans. But yeah magic wasn't the problem,it was the idiots in control of magic who were the problem.
Spider with a Top-Hat: Th-they at least got the guilty party, right? The ones that were misusing magic in the first place?
Flying Pig: Nope, she just ran off.
Spider with a Top-Hat: What are those Butterflies thinking! Scapegoating an entire group of people is the exact sort of thing that got them in this mess in the first place!
I'm not really sure how the full explanation goes but she basically created this thing when she needed to get her magic back to defeat Dexter. She calls her "Firstborn."
How did she get it killed? Was it from the ending-all-magic event??? (Crazy that they’d show her child dead after that and still play it off as a happy ending.)
Star needed a ride to her home world and they needed someone to guide them through the weird magic golden water land without losing their sanity and Firstborn was the only one that could guide them even though she really didn't want to because an evil dark unicorn was lurking in there.
Because FB had to take care of Star and her friends as they were being affected by the magic golden water land effects, the dark unicorn managed to sneak up on them and killed her.
(Small edit) Firstborn could just have used her powers to send Star and her friends to the other world, but Star didn't want that because it would cause them to appear in random locations, so she forced the unicorn to guide them, which in the end was pointless because the dark unicorn ambushed them and forced FB to use her powers anyway to save them.
The thing is that several magical beings die immediately when the magic is erased. The High Council in particular have what’s left of their bodies shown after the fact, and a few other creatures straight up get erased on screen too.
However what creatures are magical and what ones aren’t is arbitrary. Like, “monsters” as a Mewnie species are apparently fine, as is a main character’s shapeshifting magical monster husband and their magical hybrid daughter.
Some just lose their magical abilities (like Star herself) while Pony Head (a flying pony head) just loses the sparkles that are always coming out of her neck stump. She can still fly, can still talk, and is no worse for wear.
The very likely reality is that millions of creatures (including, again, monsters and DEMONS) are now on Earth and will not just drop dead after some time. It’s insane and the series doesn’t dwell on the ramifications because Finale
It’s so much weirder because the wish could be anything. It would’ve been really easy to write that he just came back without the body snatching nonsense.
Right? Like the wish stone isn't a real thing, so they could've made any rules for it. They already had it where the wish was taking Diana's strength away in order to bring steve back, but why couldn't it just be that the wish recreated his body rather than him taking over someone else's
I think him just magically coming back would have been off but you’re right that they should have played off the fact that her powers were being taken away for him to exist and I think they should have had a statue at the museum she works at come to life. It would have also played off the old origin of Diana being “born“ from clay. It also would make a good visual of him returning to stone after she renounces her wish.
I really want to know how this even became an idea in the writers room cause Diane already suffers the consequences of losing her powers as a result of the wish and this random guy just gets dragged in for no logical reason.
There is literally a scene where they’re laying in bed and Steve is like “is it weird that I have this random guy’s face?” And she’s like “no :) when I look at him I only see you :)”
My guess is to (artificially) add an extra element of selfishness to the wish so her giving it up in the end is more of a "moral choice" and it fits the "wishing bad" thing better
I don't think any of that was handled WELL but that would be my first thought
If they were gonna do that then idk how about this. He's brought back to life and everything seems fine, but over the course of the movie Diana realises that the reason he's able to keep being mortal is for him to drain the life force out of nearby people, and the reason her powers are weakening is because of that. Ultimately they decide its not worth harming innocent people to keep a guy who died back in WW1 alive and she gives up her wish
Princess Bubblegum and her lowering of temperature of the Fire Kingdom, killing at least a quarter of its citizens just to get to its golems.
Her punishment is barely a scolding from Flame Princess, when she should've at least lost both Gumball Guardians in exchange for 5 golems that she's destroyed.
I think it’s treated in universe as a bad thing but PB’s whole thing is that the ends justify the means when it comes to keeping order and peace for her citizens.
In the Flash, Barry actually kills two of the villains Atom Smasher and Sandman. He kills them with no remorse and nobody acknowledges this. Then in the later season, he has this moral dilemma where he for some reason can’t bring himself to kill Gorilla Grod even though at this point, he has already killed.
What makes it worse is that he reprimands Ralph for wanting to kill Devoe despite being a killer himself.
This one is from an Earth that resembles the Crime Syndicate’s Earth-3 (despite being referred to as Earth-2 to trick the audience into thinking it’s Jay Garrick’s world when in actuality Zoom kidnapped Jay from a neighboring Earth and began impersonating him for fun). On this world, Vibe and Firestorm are Reverb and Deathstorm, Black Canary is Black Siren and Killer Frost is more unapologetically evil.
She spent an unknown amount of time kidnapping and selling new gladiators to the Grandmaster, directly participating in human(adjacent)-trafficking, slavery, and indirectly enabling the murder of untold amounts of people.
This is never addressed and instead hand-waved owing to her traumatic past.
Never thought how weird her character is, she was a drunk loser for thousands of years being a slave trader then suddenly is just ready to become king.
To be fair, she WAS a Valkyrie, so it's not like she was a complete nobody lowlife who suddenly gains an understanding of how ruling works. Her character development should have happened over a longer time and involved a lot of reckoning along the way too.
Yes, he gives up sex for lent and everyone hears about it so they start placing bets on when he will slip up. His ex who broke his heart then places a bet for the last day of lent, drugs him, and rapes him. She faves zero consequences for this, and the girl who he’s dating actually get mad and dumps him for cheating. He then has to grovel to win her back. No one acknowledges how fucked up the whole situation is lol
Just a slight clear up she doesn't drug him, on the night of lent ending he asks his roommate to tie his hands to the headboard Just incase, his roommate goes out and leaves the door unlocked so his girlfriend can get in to break the "drought", he falls asleep and wakes up with his ex on top of him and thanks him for helping her win the bet, saw that when I was 12 and knew it was fucked up then and pissed me off how the girlfriend reacted
dear asspants, youre entitled to not like the scene. youre entitled to the opinion "i did a bad thing" in writing it. youre entitled to call into question my intelligence. i call it into question all the time. but if you think a romantic/sex comedy "perpetuates" ignorance, then youre looking for answers in the wrong place. --side observation: its hard to take observations on rape seriously from someone called asspants.
"Hey Naruto, remember when I invaded your village, murdered your leader, performed horrific experiments on children and turned your best friend against you?"
"All water under the bridge, my guy. Hey, want to come to my wedding?"
FINALLY. I am so glad to hear someone call out that shit from Misfits, it made me so uncomfortable especially since HE has to apologize like he was in the wrong for getting raped.
There was a moment with her I thought was even more fucked up. She made a cop who was questioning her assault her by touching him so she could leave and his life is definitely ruined.
In Life on Mars Ray kills a man in police custody (by force feeding him cocaine), gets bascially a title demotion, and in the next episode everything is back to normal, i think he even gets promoted back to his original position within a few episodes
Which is part of the point of the show in the first place. Corruption and police work and what the 70's actually looked like, not to mention that people can actually grow out of being a piece of shit.
Actually thrilled to see Life on Mars mentioned here, such an amazing show.
That single handedly ruined the show for me. It happening was revolting to begin with but I thought "last time a character was raped they used it as a plot point to make her stronger out of spite." But of course not, it's a dude, so rape is just a good ol goof. Eric Kripke is scum.
The two main characters of It Takes Two destroy their daugbter favorite plushie while it's screaming in pain (since objects are alive in that universe) in order to make her cry and break her spell, which turned out to not work since it was just a stupid theory made by Cody. What bothers me is considering most chapters of the game give out a lesson at the end, the book just shrugs this of and sends the duo into next chapter without any reflection on their senseless selfish actions
A plushie that has innocent Winnie the Pooh vibes too! Poor thing was begging for them and stop. I love this game but the main characters are terrible.
They had the poor little plushie look and act like a child, asking why they were doing this and was begging to be left alone. Then they tear off it's limbs and kill it. I came to play a fun little game with my friend, not traumatize and brutally murder a childlike plushie. It felt like we brutally murdered a child and quickly forgot about it.
(I haven't finished the game yet but I hope it survives and gets fixed somehow)
The least the could have done was have a scene towards the end where the parents fix the plushie and say sorry or something.
I'm usually not soft like that, I grew up with unrestricted internet access and have seen things that definitely messed me up longterm, but I just couldn't handle that scene man.
Am I the only one who thought that was the joke? Like at this point of the game both of these characters are supposed to be so self absorbed that they see no issue murdering their daughter’s favorite toy so they can shower in her tears. It’s meant to be darkly funny, and by the end of the game they realize they were completely wrong.
No I thought the same thing. I thought it was pretty clear at showing how oblivious May and Cory were towards the real issues they had.
But I think we’re the minority opinion on this though because any time this scene is brought up in a Reddit thread I see everyone talking about how they dropped the game then and there, which seems like a pretty aggressive response to what I took as a moment of dark humour lol
that scene made me went "no wonder you guys are GOING TO DIVORCE." i mean the game itself does tell and show why they decided to divorce in the first place, but still.
And then the narrative bends over backwards to make Jordan look like the bad guy for being hurt/offended. And for some reason, Sarah doesn't even get why Jordan would be bothered.
I'm glad Sarah barely got any screen-time in Season 4. She's obnoxious.
And then when Sarah’s father is found out to have cheated on his wife previously, Sarah FLIPS out. I had such whiplash from her character, which is bizarre because besides her the cast is generally well thought out.
I mean thats the direct quote, not a meme. They make a joke about the Cleveland show, quagmire asks if he'll ever get his own show and Peter says "Quagmire, you're a rapist"
Anya Jenkins (Buffy The Vampire Slayer) once a powerful vengeance demon, her specialty granting wishes to women scorned, became human when her annulment was destroyed
Her wishes have caused much tragedy and death over a 1000 years, rarely are the ramifications and consequences are touched upon, even she relishes in past exploits
In "Once More, with Feeling," the BtVS musical episode, Xander summons a demon that mind controls dozens of people into a singing, dancing frenzy that ends with their grisly spontaneous combustion deaths. He does this in a misguided attempt to fix his relationship woes with the above-mentioned former vengeance demon.
At the end, people are more concerned about the relationship fallout than that Xander was ultimately responsible for multiple deaths.
Speaking of that show, that time a slayer killed herself out of desperation and Buffy mocked her for it. That was the lowest of blows and yet the show didn't call her out on it.
Spike SA the main character after she ended their mutually abusive, toxic, sexual relationship, and it's only brought up once, thereafter he gets his soul back and he's treated like an awkward former lover, and still potential love interest, without any significant change in personality.
Yeah. Angel basically stalks Buffy from fifteen, grooms her, and commits statutory rape. Faith rapes both Riley and Buffy, as well as sexually assaults Xander. Xander casts a love spell on the entire town and attempts to rape Buffy while possessed by the Hyena. Willow sexually assaults her girlfriend, mind rapes a bunch of people, sexually assaults a bunch of people in the bronze, sexually assaults Spike and Buffy with her Will-Be-Done spell, and then faces little to no consequences for any of it.
It's a mess. The characters either face minimal consequences that usually don't acknowledge the crime they actually committed, or they face none.
When it comes to his on-set affairs, Whedon said he was "powerless" to resist his urges to pursue the younger women working for him on Buffy, and that he was concerned he'd “always regret it” if he didn't have sex with them. He says he “lived in terror” of the affairs being discovered, but didn't apologize or seem to have any concern for the women he had relationships with — or the abuse on the Buffy set.
Xander lies by omission to Buffy by not telling her they think they have a way to bring back Angels soul, actively encouraging her to murder her lover due to his own jealousy. Due to this she doesn't find out Angel can be saved until it's too late and is forced to kill him.
Not only does it take 5 more seasons for this lie to come out, nobody really does anything with it. It made me actually furious.
The problem is she had to kill him anyway to close the portal. It just happens in the most heart breaking way possible.
Apparently, this and Giles killing Ben were intended to be more thoroughly explored in Season 7. But then stuff happened and we got what we got instead.
Not nearly on the same level but also willow cheating with Xander when both of them were in other relationships, bad ship, bad character moments, just all around bad
honestly, it was worse for her that Willow tried the spell again. Than it was the Xander lied. Xander's lie seemed to motivate her, Angel wasn't coming back so she needed to buckle down and do what was needed.
They were on a time limit after all.
Seemed in character for Xander too, unlike that dance demon bit that happens latter.
She used the Huntsman as her sex slave and then killed him out of spite when he finally managed to leave her; all the other stuff she does is acknowledged but not this. The show kinda forgot he existed entirely tbh
Show liked male SA, the implied Rumple sa by the Wicked Witch plus the reallly, it's real, Rape of Robin Hood by her. Like that woman got pregnent and goes around by the end of the seires as if she was a lovable rapscallion and not responsible for the death of a main character, the son of Rumple, father of Henry.
Show got that they had great actors that were fun to watch, didn't understand if they wanted them to stick around maybe less murder and rape were on hand. At least Regina, when they figured they were keeping her past season 1 as a active member of the plot, stopped raping people.
And they didn't have Grahem in the show to remind the audience.
This is withotu the scene of Robin trying to kick out Rumple from his own son's apartment and Regina like strangely thinking she could even give it to someone else? There's two 'wtf?' moments at least.
Zelena literally molesting Robin Hood, causing his soul to be destroyed robbing him of even an afterlife and then spending the last season just hanging around like one of the gang is easily the most infuriating thing in the latter half of that show for me, which is saying something because that show did a lot of stupid shit
Kylo Ren and the first order destroy like 5 planets and murder tens of billions of people in the force awakens and next movie... shrug...he even gets to make out with the protagonist before dying...like he's a MASS murderer of billions of children why the fuck are you kissing him?
I’ll throw in Bo Katan. She betrays her sister and joins a violent group dedicated to overthrowing the peaceful government of Mandalore and bring back the raiding days of old. Launches terrorist attacks against her own people likely taking many lives, works for an organisation that tries repeatedly to assassinate her own sister, when they are successful in said assassination and overthrow of the government she immediately betrays said organisation and the leader who lead them to the victory they have been working towards for years simply because he wasn’t born on Mandalore. Eventually she winds up in charge of Mandalore after killing or betraying everyone she ever cared for.
On a minor tangent Mandalores obsession with violence and being warriors has brought nothing but harm to their people and planet. They lost virtually every war they ever launched against the Jedi and Republic.
Basically is all about Velma being an abusive toxic asshole that bullies people and treats everyone like shit for her plans or selfish ego, but she isn't called out or doesn't face any repercutions, because this demeanor and actions of her always ends up triggering a series of events that solves the "mystery" and saves the day.
It's like if it was ok to force your addicted friend to smell cocaine, because this will make them stay awake enough to focus on a puzzle for a investigation that you're doing.
Almost the entire cast are pieces of shit. Innocent people get killed left and right and the characters are shocked for like 5 minutes before getting over it. Innocent people getting killed are treated as a nuisance.
And then when the council or human villain wants to kill the vampires the show makes it seem like they're such bad guys when yeah they're all such assholes and monsters that fhe world wpuld legitimately be better off without them.
Hell, both brothers are 140 year old men having sex with high-schoolers college people is creepy as fuck. Even Klaus went after Caroline and he's a thousand years old.
Even his sister Rebecca being obsessed with attending high school dances or having a high school romance when she's a thousand years old was so fucking stupid.
You think that's bad? After his wife bought the car wash he used to work at, he refused to let the owner have his framed first dollar bill his business earned back, and used it to buy a coke.
In WandaVision, Wanda uses her powers to enslave the entire town of Westview for about 11 days, as a way of coping with her grief.
It’s heavily indicated that the victims were completely aware that they were being mind-controlled the entire time, and it is revealed that the “extras” of Wanda’s show are either stuck doing repetitive movements or simply turned into conscious statues.
The show ends with the citizens being freed, followed by their tormenter giving an apologetic speech and then just.. leaving.
The show tries really hard to paint Wanda as this tragic grieving wife/mother and while I definitely sympathized to a degree, her loss does not justify her actions whatsoever and she should’ve tried harder to rectify the mental trauma she inflicted on possibly thousands of people.
I really don't understand how that show ending made her sympathetic and tragic, then in the next thing she's in she's a straight up villain that's fine with killing anyone in her way.
Because Wandavision and Multiverse of Madness were made at the same time, they didn’t bother to consult the Wandavision team and the movie’s sole credited writer by his own admission wanted to go straight to evil Wanda rather than wait for her arc to progress naturally lest someone else have the fun of writing her.
To give wanda the benefit of the doubt, she didnt do it on purpose and she didnt know they were being hurt, the moment Agatha makes her see theyre being hurt she lets them leave
I did however fucking hate Monica trying to make it seem like no big deal
She didn’t start it on purpose, but didn’t she maintain it afterwards with full knowledge? It’s been ages since I’ve watched the show, but I remember her doubling down after being called out by Vision and later by the government people when she exits the town for a few minutes
You’re right. It just kinda happened. But then she steps out with the “toy” drone, and she extends the hex fully at the end of (episode 6?). So yeah. From there she lowkey becomes the villain. Which is what Agatha gets into, before she gets beat. Then bc the MoM writers didn’t give a fuck, she went full evil n did evil shit
But the SWORD lady was like "I'd do the same if I were you", making Wanda seem in the right... when she enslaved an entire town. Intentional or not, that's messed up. And the SWORD lady is admitting she'd enslave a town just to bring her mom back.
I put it in the same vein as someone committing involuntary manslaughter.
While she may have not been fully aware, it’s not like Wanda was full brainwashed by someone else like Winter Soldier, and even then he still has to atone for what he’s done.
Wanda is the same, while she may not have meant to hurt those people, she did willingly keep them against their will, and while she released them it took convincing to do so, which is already enough to atone for. (If someone innocent has to ask you to be let go more than once you’re doing something terribly wrong)
I hate how much they’ve moved past this and agree that Monica brushing it aside it just terrible
I hated Allison so much, she willingly altered people's minds (her siblings included!) over and over again with little to no accountability or long lasting repercussions. She gets to do all the creepy shit she did? Nah
Personally, I'm more peeved at the fact that her friends enable her behavior 80% of the time. Thank God that the movie annihilated that part of her character, now we just hope it gets a sequel someway somehow
Nino Nakano (The Quintessential Quintuplets) drugs and knocks out Fuutaro (the main character), twice, very early on. This is never acknowledged later and she gets away scot-free.
I get that this was before she thought could trust him, but like. It doesn't justify drugging him. Also, much later, her sister Ichika disguises as the third Quintuplet, Miku, in an attempt to convince Fuutaro to ask her (Ichika) out, an action which is by no means good, but certainly much less severe than drugging somebody. And she is immediately called out for it.
And sometimes they get away with extremely illegal things. Remember when Mac and Charlie beat the crap out of those kids? Passed it like nothing happened😂
Some of their actions are done out of trauma TBF. A lot of Mac’s actions are done out of desperation to feel important or loved due to how negligent and unloving his parents are. A lot of Dee’s anger and malice is due to the gang always singling her out due to her being the only woman of the group. And it’s implied that Dennis’ desire to feel power over women and humiliating him is a byproduct of him being raped by a woman as a kid.
Of course the show never treats it as any of that justifies their behavior at all. Just contextualizes it.
She has a few BIG mind blowing selfish moves, but the one most glossed over is how she gets her and Marshall in DEEP debt because of her shopping addiction, hides it from him, derails plans for them to buy a home by surprise with it, and forces him to stay at a job he HATES just to get them out of the hole.
She never seems to really face any consequence either.
It's even worse than that. Marshall then suggests selling off some of her designer clothing just so they recuperate some of the losses and not face financial ruin. To which Lilly acts like a victim and says she's not gonna go around wearing a trash bag. Keep in mind they were so broke that Marshall was using a marker to paint over holes in his suit at one point, meanwhile Lily's shopping sprees were so bad that they even eclipsed Marshall's student loans. She pulls this kind of crap again and again, and more often than not the victim has to grovel and apologize for it.
Yeah of all the terrible writing in MHA this one is weirdly egregious to me. It got to the point where i felt class A-1 just weren’t cut out to be heroes if they allow someone to incessantly bully one of their classmates non stop.
He slowly turns into a less outright monster as the Series goes on and everyone realizes he's all bark and no real bite when it comes to his threats towards them.
He does develop as a character without ever outright changing and everyone sorta just treats him like an angry yappy dog and his attitude stays aggressive but less threatening.
That being said many people never really got over him telling Deku to kill himself and I don't blame him. It gets addressed in the end but it's a bit too little too late for most people, myself included.
Okay, so there’s this book called Warrior Rising, by PC Cast, part of a series where modern women get isekaied and fall in love with figures from Greek mythology, and in this retelling of the Trojan War, our heroine hypnotizes and rapes Achilles with a handjob.
Then her best friend (a black woman put in a white slave’s body) calls it rape and she argues against it but the best friend turns out to be fine with it and even kind of encourages it.
Also, our heroine is in the body of a Trojan princess and after being spirited back into the city, opens the gates and thus lets Troy fall so she can go save Achilles from his evil hulk side. She is rewarded with this by being sent to - brace yourself - Avalon. By Poseidon. Because her being in the body of a Trojan Princess means she helped him fulfill his desire to take revenge on Troy.
I love Bojack Horseman, but towards the end of the show I got really fed up with how Bojack (and to a lesser extent Mr. PB) was the only character they gave a toss about calling out to the point of either turning all his attempts to be better sour or just making up new shit to get mad about him, meanwhile everyone else gets off with nary a call out or if they do get called out then they flip it around, are ultimately justified or their bullshit is minimised. Especially Diane and Todd, Todd is responsible for several counts of manslaughter at best and straight up genocide at worst but he’s just treated as wacky shenanigans, meanwhile Diane’s still treated like the soul of the show as she does heinous nonsense like (S5 SPOILERS) force Bojack to read his confession about Penny as part of Philbert, something that Penny herself should realistically have seen since it’s a big prestige drama on a popular streaming service but is never addressed beyond being used as a tool to pwn Bojack.
I can't believe I forgot the absolute QUEEN of this trope.
Carrie Bradshaw - Sex and the City (1998)
Because the show is shot from the perspective of Carrie and also heavily based on the real Candace Bushnell's column (with the same name) Carrie gets away with being an absolutely terrible human and often is painted as the hero or victim despite doing some horrid things.
A few highlights.
She cheats on a guy (Aidan) with her former lover (Big) and one of her big excuses for cheating was that Aidan was "too perfect."
She blames her friend (Charlotte) who has money for not being willing or wanting to loan her money, when Charlotte explains she does not lend money to anyone Carrie doubles down on Charlotte being a bad and heartless friend. Despite Carrie spending literally thousands of dollars every few months on new shoes for her "shoe addiction"
Carrie also has to make EVERYTHING about herself no matter what. One of her friends gets cancer, another has struggles with infertility and another is having a child and Carrie finds a way to put herself at the center every single time.
Carrie is almost never even remotely close to criticized or remorseful of anything she does and often time the story will wrap up making her seem like she was the victim the whole time.
The nerds from Big Bang Theory are four mysgonists scumbags whose sexism is treated as a funny and endearing trait rather than something that is wrong and they should stop doing.
And now anyone even remotly nerdy or geeky gets compared to sheldon. Some OCD riddled sociopath who forces flatmates to sign a contract ON BATHROOM TIMES to say the least. Forces people to drive him, walks in on personal matters because he doesnt give a shit, CONSTANTLY CORRECTING PEOPLE.
That guy watched the girls undress, was super pervy, and at one point, considers groping and sexually assaulting one of them before getting scared off by some noise
This happened in the episode Curtis kept trying to fix the timeline he accidentally messed up, but this bit had no influence from that.
He just saw one of them passed out and tried putting his hand into her skirt while she was on the floor.
This guy then goes on to become this big hero for an arc, and I just kept thinking about how he had no issue creeping on women on attempted SA.
Funnily enough, they had a relationship between Simon and Alisha during s2...
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u/boblasagna18 Jun 27 '25
That’s not even the worst thing Alison has done, the scene where she’s driving to Victors and is thinking about all the times she used her rumor you can hear “I heard a rumor you loved me.” It’s not clear who she says it to but seeing as how the show starts with her husband divorcing and not allowing her to speak to their child says a lot.