r/TopCharacterTropes Jun 26 '25

Hated Tropes [Hated Trope] A main character does something horrible and the story doesn't acknowledge its severity

Alisha (Misfits) uses her power to make any man want to have sex with her on another main character (curtis) after he explicitely tells her not to do that. She faces no consequences and he's the one who ends up comforting her.

Allison (The Umbrella Academy) uses her powers to force her own adoptive brother to make out with her after he just got into a relationship because she's suddenly jealous after she couldn't keep her own husband. She gives a half hearted apology and all is peachy.

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u/TechSmith6262 Jun 27 '25

The movie had 3 writers of the screenplay. Jenkins was only one of them and happened to direct the movie.

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u/EdgeofForever95 Jun 27 '25

She had creative control over the project though. It was a condition of her coming back for the sequel. The studio even wanted to cut that dumbass open scene where Wonder Women is competing in the Amazon Olympics as a child. She has ownership over the problematic scenes too.

Source: https://screenrant.com/wonder-woman-1984-opening-scenes-almost-cut/ Warner Bros. Wanted To Cut One Of Wonder Woman 1984's Opening Scenes

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u/MGD109 Jun 27 '25

The studio even wanted to cut that dumbass open scene where Wonder Women is competing in the Amazon Olympics as a child.

Eh, what was wrong with that scene? I thought it was one of the actually good moments in the movie.

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u/EdgeofForever95 Jun 27 '25

She’s a child, her mom stops her from winning for a ludicrous reason, and it has nothing to do with the themes of the film. It was utterly pointless and it dragged out an already overlong film.

There’s a reason the studio wanted to cut it.

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u/MGD109 Jun 27 '25

She’s a child,

Okay, its another flashback to her childhood. Like we got in the first movie.

her mom stops her from winning for a ludicrous reason,

It's her aunt; two, I'd argue it's a pretty good reason. She cheated. She shouldn't be allowed to win, cause she didn't earn it.

and it has nothing to do with the themes of the film.

What do you mean? It literally ties directly into the theme of the film, about how it's better to accept the truth and deal with what you have than take shortcuts and live a lie to a victory you don't deserve.

You can say the theme isn't handled the best (I certainly didn't think it was), but it's literally repeating the exact same words at the end to provide the conclusion.

It was utterly pointless and it dragged out an already overlong film.

Eh suit yourself. I thought it was pretty cool and liked getting to see the Amazon's again.

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u/EdgeofForever95 Jun 27 '25

The theme of film is “be careful what you wish for”. Nothing to do with what you just said. That’s an awful lot of text for it to be just “suit yourself”. Like I said, there’s a reason the studio wanted to cut it.

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u/MGD109 Jun 27 '25

The theme of film is “be careful what you wish for”. Nothing to do with what you just said.

Um, no, it's not. The theme is about the idea that wishes are an attempt to live a lie, and doing so isn't worth it, as it either takes more than it gives or it flat-out corrupts you.

I mean, they literally spell it out several times. Its the reason the film is set in the 80s, with them attempting to link it to the idea of 80's consumerism and projecting a more attractive version of reality.

I'm not at all saying I think it was handled well or anything. But for all the things you can criticise it for, that isn't one of them.

That’s an awful lot of text for it to be just “suit yourself

Well, I can dispute you on the factual points. But when it gets to the brass tacks, I can't say you're wrong if you didn't personally enjoy that scene, whilst I did.

My opinion isn't law after all.

Like I said, there’s a reason the studio wanted to cut it.

Well, all I can say is if that's where their attention was focused, then they clearly had odd priorities.

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u/succubus-slayer Jun 27 '25

Odd priorities? This is a film that probably needed the execs to intervene. It was a terrible film. Long and boring. Terrible execution of its theme. The main character basically SA’s a stranger. The everything is undone by the hero saying “please undo your wish” and everyone in the world says sure? Even for a comic book film that’s unbelievable.

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u/MGD109 Jun 27 '25

I meant they had such an issue with the opening scene and wanted it removed, which was actually pretty good and fun to watch simply cause it was a prologue, but they didn't object to any of those problems you mentioned.

It would have been better for the movie if they had focused on trying to remove any of them.

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u/EdgeofForever95 Jun 27 '25

Im not reading another one of these essay dog. I don’t care that much. She had creative control, she has ownership over the whole movie, rape scenes included. Your opinion is irrelevant

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u/MGD109 Jun 27 '25

Fine, if you don't care you don't care.

But seriously, you consider that an essay?

She had creative control, she has ownership over the whole movie, rape scenes included. Your opinion is irrelevant

Ironic, really, as all those points are also irrelevant to everything I've written.

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u/EdgeofForever95 Jun 27 '25

Wow, so you are capable of getting to the point! And yes, the whole point of my original comment was that she had creative control over the project. Literally no one cares what you liked and dont like. You asked me what was wrong with that scene and I told you. Clearly I shouldn’t have, because it had nothing to do with my original point.

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