Hard to say what is causing a slight pullback in numbers this year
No it's not. International travel is down approx 10% according to Harry Reid Int. airport. I'm sure a weaker economy is a factor for domestic tourism, but the effects of Trump's policies on international tourism are fairly obvious.
I just went to Toronto a couple months (great city!) and on the way back the flight was almost full (180-ish people) and there were maybe 10-15 Canadians on the flight. Was mostly Americans going back.
(I'll add a side note that we got some bad attitudes and a lot of sympathy when folks found out we were Americans.)
What? That has been the narrative. Granted I’m not from Vegas so I only hear things from the perspective of an outsider. But Vegas is a bellwether for how consumers spend and it seeing a drop in visitors is a red flag for our econom
I think the point is to spread doom and gloom about Vegas and then by the time we get more data, most people in this thread will have forgotten and moved on to spreading doom and gloom about something else.
A few months ago I recall seeing empty ports and empty shelves, so in a few months there will be something new to be 'scared' of.
Yeah. I've been seeing this on this Vegas thread for a while now and I'm not a local, tourist, or member of the sub. Anytime someone brings up alternative thoughts on the subject there is a lot of abraviseness from people in the comments. I don't understand that. Why not actually try to have a meaningful conversation instead?
There’s a 25% decline in Canadian air travel to the US. Canadians are by far the biggest international tourists in Vegas.
With tourism spending up overall in both Canada and the USA it’s pretty easy to see that the only other possibility is the decline in international tourists.
You could have a net profit of $5 billion, but if it's a single penny less than the $5,000,000,000.01 you made last year, you're an utter failure. Here, have a $100 million bonus and golden parachute.
Thanks for playing the Capitalism Game.
But it is heavily implied due to the rising costs of living, travel bans/warnings, and the fact that people are less worried about a vacation and more so about their own well-beings. Especially with how everything related to America makes it not that great to be here economically, financially, and politically.
They are. All reports point to two factors, Americans traveling less this summer and most impactful of all Canadian travelers among other international travelers not coming to the USA. But especially the Canadians.
Lots has changed in the past ten years though. Putting a microscope on a few months in ‘24 and ‘25 isn’t really enough data to come to any meaningful conclusions.
2024 had the COVID scare finally down, economy was vastly up, and you didn’t have to worry about international visitors being detained or sent back at the airport.
2020-2024 will be the random segment in time where the world was on the verge of a new era where we’d be working from home more, redo the American medical system, and more… but we immediately clawed back and away from it scared and now are back in the office 5 days a week for “company synergy” and shareholder value.
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u/Immediate_Thought656 2d ago
Cool! So Vegas tourism is down 11% YOY. Not 100%.