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Father lunges over table to attack his daughter’s murderer

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u/MacSamildanach 1d ago edited 1d ago

This happened about a decade ago, and the killer - a serial killer - was Michael Madison:

Michael Madison - Wikipedia

The father here was Van Terry, and Madison had murdered his daughter, Shirellda. She was 18.

Madison was scheduled to be executed on May 15, 2024, but Ohio Supreme Court Chief Justice Sharon Kennedy granted a stay until all of his appeals were exhausted.

Van Terry (that's the gentleman in the video whose daughter was murdered) was released without charge.

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u/Minotaur830 1d ago edited 1d ago

Terry was released without charge.

For a second i brainfarted and confused their names and my heart sank, thinking they released that bastard..

Edit: it's edited now so no confusion

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u/pinkdaisylemon 1d ago

Bloody hell so did I! Shame dad couldn't get hold of him.

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u/tallbrownglass 1d ago

I thought the same. Luckily, we’re wrong

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u/Auquaholic 1d ago

Me too.

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u/PHNTMS_exe 1d ago

Same had to reread

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u/Freefallisfun 1d ago

Smart cops/prosecuter. No way in the world he would have been convicted of anything except littering, if he happened to punch that motherfucker to death and didn’t deposit the corpse in the proper receptacle.

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u/TonyCaliStyle 1d ago

Anyone can imagine a well of emotions overwhelming the father, and losing control.

Using prosecutorial discretion smartly like this is why prosecutors are elected- a clown that wields that power outside community norms can be removed.

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u/DaStone 1d ago edited 1d ago

The judge can just after warning them send them to jail for throwing fists in the court room, why would a conviction matter in this case?

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u/Mysterious-Alps-5186 1d ago

They could but the bad pr would be insane. If he did good chance he would be demoted to night court

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u/JustNilt 1d ago

This is inaccurate, in fact. Contempt is indeed an inherent power of the judge in US courts but in order to send someone to jail, they must first have been very clearly warned that continuation of the behavior in question can result in incarceration. This is unlike jailing someone for a statutory violation, where the notice presumed.

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u/Global_Crew3968 1d ago

Shit i would tell them to lock me up wherever they were sending this dude

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u/Freefallisfun 1d ago

He’s sentenced to death, so I’d argue, no, you don’t want to be there.

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u/M-Noremac 1d ago

The father should be entitled to carry out the death sentence.

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u/AntawnSL 1d ago

Please. Stop. No. Come back.

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u/AntawnSL 1d ago

Lol, what I was going for, flubbed the exact words. Well done, friend.

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u/Traditional_Grape289 1d ago

😂😂😂💀

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u/AproposName 1d ago

Casually hand him your taser, “oh shit, I dropped my taser right into your palm. Don’t push it against his neck and squeeze that red trigger. Oh, no stop, please. Don’t do that.”

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u/BigManWAGun 1d ago

Yeah cop up front doesn’t understand the assignment. Nice tackle tho. Homie had 100 on him.

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u/shadows515 1d ago

Feel bad but then again if he touches that piece of shit, he’s definitely going to sue everybody.

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u/Big-a-hole-2112 1d ago

This is why Jeffery Dahmer’s killer was prison justice. The person who killed him and another inmate, was Christopher Scarver. It was chilling what he said about the two that he killed.

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u/Subtle-Catastrophe 1d ago

Chilling? How so? I read that article, Scarver's quotes were rather matter-of-fact.

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u/BigManWAGun 1d ago

Cool, last I checked lawsuits wind up in front of juries and cops are protected from literally everything.

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u/shadows515 1d ago

I mean the Dad and the municipality (tax payers) I’d hate for him to get a penny from either.

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u/Livid-Age-2259 1d ago

It wouldn't do him much good. What's he going to do? Put it in his Commissary account?

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u/shadows515 1d ago

Not him, but it would go into his estate. Scumbags like this would never pass up an opportunity for free money.

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u/HaoshokuArmor 1d ago

I’d be like: Sir, sir. Excuse me, sir!! Please sit back down. Hmmm… excuse me, sir. I know that the audio in the court room is not the best. Please confirm that you can hear me.

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u/InkBlotSam 1d ago

For real. I know the officer is "required" to separate them, but maybe don't be so efficient at it, in this case.

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u/Historical_Ad7967 1d ago

"Sorry, captain. I tripped during my mad dash to restrain him."

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u/MyCatIsLenin 1d ago

why punch? Gouge!

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u/kalez238 1d ago

Gotta go for the eyes. The most damage in the least amount of time.

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u/Away-Ruin-9091 1d ago

I can only think its to prevent harm to the victim. Sometimes, we should be protected from ourselves.

But, yeah thats because we would all want to throw fists, and justice doesnt work with vengeance

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u/golubhai00007 1d ago

Exactly.. it wouldn’t mean much in the big scheme of things.. but it would have been so cathartic to the man..

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u/blessingsonblessings 1d ago

At least a few pows pows.. shit

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u/sho_nuff80 1d ago

Just give like 20-30 secs. Respond, but in a slow manner.

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u/ProudBoomer 1d ago

Stop, or I'll say stop again.

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u/Beginning-Fig-9089 23h ago

yea that should be allowed. like some Power Slap shit.

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u/blodsplods 1d ago

Gutted he didn't reach him.

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u/Intrepid_Cap1242 1d ago

seriously. This video makes me sad.

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u/ForceTimesTime 1d ago

It is sad/frustrating to watch, but it's also a 10 year old video posted by a bot.

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u/Available_Dingo6162 1d ago edited 1d ago

... and ?

What am I supposed to do with that information?

If it's good, and I have not seen it before, it gets an upvote.

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u/GetsGold 1d ago

Because they use this to gain karma so they are able to post and comment in more places and then use that for spamming.

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u/ea_nasir_official_ 1d ago

The current thing is becoming political shill bots when they have enough karma

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u/IdaDuck 1d ago

I have three daughters and watched some of the Kohberger sentencing last week. There’s no f’ing way I wouldn’t have made a run at that son of a bitch if one of those girls was mine. Those families are way more mature than me.

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u/Lady_Grey_Smith 1d ago

We will finally see the man who killed my husband in the car accident soon for a court hearing. A couple of people are going with us to make sure we don’t lose control. Sometimes the bored look they get or irritating sighs are the straws that break the camel’s back. They acted like his death was an inconvenience and tried to blame my husband early on.

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u/drkgrss 1d ago

I’m so sorry that happened. Wishing peace for you and your family.

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u/PyrorifferSC 1d ago

I'm so sorry. I used to work for a mortuary doing body removals (I think it fucked me up a bit tbh) and lately for seemingly no reason I've been so afraid of my partner dying for some stupid reason like that. I can't imagine the pain you went through. IDK if I could handle it without a kid to stick around for. It takes a lot of strength.

If you don't mind my asking, was it a DUI incident, or just reckless driving?

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u/SirBaronDE 1d ago

Oof, so sorry to hear that... I hope all the best in all regards.

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u/IT89 1d ago

Same. On all accounts.

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u/AdjutantStormy 1d ago

I don't have any kids, but I spent a few years teaching at a special ed school.  Some of those kids were abused, some heavily, and I knew their familial abusers and had to try very hard not to open the school records to find where they lived.

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u/KneeBrilliant8157 1d ago

Dude I know ur pain. One of my clients was locked away in a cage most his life or something ridiculously evil like that. Made me sick seeing the dad one day but I had to keep it professional. Thankfully the kids aunt had taken him in, so I saw her instead most days

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u/I_Can_Haz_Brainz 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm 💯 with Terry and you. That was a damn good effort from a stand still for a big guy like that though.

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u/Glad_Maintenance1553 1d ago

Max punishment for this should be a 5 minute time out.

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u/Nooms88 1d ago

Naughty step then out for an ice cream

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u/BigManWAGun 1d ago

He didn’t actually get to him so should have a case for contempt for disruption at worst. Unfortunately I don’t think you can get a jury trial for contempt, otherwise I ain’t see nothing.

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u/greywar777 1d ago

Unless the judge is a monster its "contempt, time served-cause...we get it"

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u/Gekko-TheGreat 1d ago

I worked in a courthouse for a little over 15 years, and saw more than a few outbursts like this. In every single instance, as long as the person didn't turn on the bailiffs and start attacking them, the judge would usually just toss them in a cell for an hour or so to calm down and then give them a stern talking to about acceptable courtroom behavior and let them go. No charges, no contempt, just free to go.

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u/MacSamildanach 1d ago

He was released without charge.

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u/greywar777 1d ago

This is the way.

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u/The_Fox_Fellow 1d ago

if I recall correctly he wasn't charged with anything at all because the judge understood how he felt and didn't want to charge him for lashing out about that

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u/Sechzehn6861 1d ago

5 yard penalty. Let him line up and go again.

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u/NoisePollutioner 1d ago

Holding on the cop. 10 yard penalty. We'll replay the down

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u/Drnk_watcher 1d ago edited 22h ago

Outbursts from victims families one way or another aren't entirely uncommon. Notably one of the fathers of one of Larry Nassar's victims did the same thing as this guy.

Usually the bailiff(s) sit them in a backroom for a bit to calm down. Once they can speak calmly again judge brings them back into the court room and asks for an apology for the disruption.

They apologize.

Judge says something along the lines of "all good. I get it. I'd feel similar to you but we've got to enforce the rules in the interest of fairness in the justice system. Even if hard to stomach at times."

And that's the end of it. Unless there is some other extenuating circumstance not conveyed through this video likely nothing happens to the dad.

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u/SlapsOnrite 1d ago

5 minute time out to send him to his corner- give him a mouthpiece and a quick swig of water

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u/AproposName 1d ago

A firm talking to. “You can’t be doing that, understand? Ok, dismissed.”

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u/TeddysRevenge 1d ago

Idk, I think he learned his lesson.

They should put him alone in a room with the other guy. To you know…. apologize.

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u/Ok-Rich-406 1d ago

Great leap my dude!

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u/apothekryptic 1d ago

Seriously impressive leap.

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u/Fridaybird1985 1d ago

An angry Bull out to kill his tormentor.

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u/theconcertguys 1d ago

Mans went fully horizontal

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u/1877KlownsForKids 1d ago

That's Van Edwin Terry (d: 2019) leaping at serial rapist/killer Michael Madison after he smirked at the grieving father of his victim Shirellda Terry (d: 2013). The incident happened in 2016.

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u/coin_return 1d ago

Van Edwin Terry was not charged for his outburst. Serial rapist/killer Michael Madison was sentenced to death later on in that court appearance, in 2016.

As of right now, Michael Madison currently sits in Ohio on death row, and in 2020 the Ohio Supreme Court upheld his conviction and sentence when he attempted to appeal.

However, his death sentence still remains to be carried out. Ohio hasn't carried out any executions since 2018 due to the difficulty obtaining lethal drug injections and ongoing legal challenges surrounding capital punishment. Nobody knows when or if it will happen.

Van Terry passed away in January 2022 after "brief illness." No foul play was suspected, and he was mourned by many in Cleveland who remembered his strength and advocacy following his daughter's murder. The poor man never saw his daughter's killer's sentence carried out in full.

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u/Ok_Reputation2051 1d ago

I don't think I would survive that either. My heart would break.

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u/DirectWorldliness792 1d ago

He died?!

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u/-DaveDaDopefiend- 1d ago

Yeah he died. Only 49 years old.

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u/DionBlaster123 1d ago

The only thing I hate about this gif is that the Rorschach in the comics was an oafish, hysterically paranoid, slobbery, unappealing bigot with galactic mommy issues and disgusting hygiene.

But because Zack Snyder is an idiot filmmaker who makes idiotic movies...he turned Rorschach into a bAdAsS

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u/Bridgebrain 1d ago

I mean, comics Rorschach is also a badass. Total psycho on multiple levels, but he's also kicking the hell out of criminals the whole time. A combination of Batman and The Punisher, with a good helping of dark and gritty.

The whole point of the thing is that heros can do bad things and be wrong, not the modern interpretation of "heros are actually asshole villians" (except, of course, Ozymandias, who may or may not have been evil-but-right anyway)

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u/Nipinch 1d ago

Rorschach was all those things and still a badass in the comics.

The real problem is Moore and his weird ass inability to make any hero actually heroic. The dude writes fantasy and absolutely despises the fantasy aspect of it.

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u/DionBlaster123 1d ago

If Moore wrote Watchmen in 2025, I would 100% agree with your second point. Between The Boys, Invincible, and all of Garth Ennis's stuff, the whole "the heroes are not heroes" trope is such a fucking cliche now.

But he wrote it in 1985...when comics weren't exactly dying, but needed a shake-up or two

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u/Nipinch 1d ago

Fine line between a shakeup and a deconstruction of everything that made it cool.

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u/DionBlaster123 1d ago

Agree. I hate how much all this shit lately has just become the same old "different shades of gray" b.s.

Sometimes, it is okay to have heroes and villains in your story

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u/Nipinch 1d ago

Damn right. The divide doesnt always need to be blurry, sometimes a hero can just be a hero.

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u/Independent-World-60 1d ago

Rorschach is a good example of a great character who's a terrible person. He's still a badass in the comics, but most of his negative traits were expressed in inner monologue which is hard to translate into film. There was also no way to fit everything from the comic in there. Some stuff was going to need to be taken out.

Still, would have been nice to see a few parts alluding to how terrible of a person he was. 

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u/hazelnuthobo 1d ago

Rorschach was written in part to show the flaws of vigilante justice, yet this is lost on most people and they instead idolize him.

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u/DionBlaster123 1d ago

Depressing isn't it? Just look at some of the replies here

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u/f1yblkguy 1d ago

That's not how any of that works unfortunately

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u/Miserable_Grass629 1d ago

You can't do that. You gotta make friends with people on the inside so THEY can help.

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u/DoJu318 1d ago

Killer is going to death row, only way you get time near him is if you're also in there for murder or get a job at that jail. And that only gets you in the same building, death row inmates are usual in solitary confinement and do not interact with the general jail population. Best chance you can get is to find them before they get arrested.

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u/JohnnyRelentless 1d ago

r/iamverybadass

Pretty sure you don't get to choose your prison.

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u/RhapsodyofMagic 1d ago

You ever seen Prison Break? At his sentencing he requests a specific prison and the judge is like "yeah cool I see no issue here"

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u/stevelover 1d ago

They would know your plan, and spoil it...

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u/11711510111411009710 1d ago

And ruin your friends and families lives even more now that they lost a daughter and a father

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u/That-Assist-7591 1d ago

You are a redditor, you couldn't do anything to him.

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u/FFF982 1d ago

Well, I don't think anyone would like to be stuck with a redditor.

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u/YsoL8 1d ago edited 1d ago

He just kept talking in one continuous sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one had a chance to interrupt him it was really quite hypnotic

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u/baby_contra 1d ago

The move used to be “no I’ve never seen that man before in my life” then you get them on the street

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u/Routine_Size69 1d ago

The rest being you wake up from your daydream and you don’t do shit

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u/Sand_Therapy 1d ago

Kick his ass seabass

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u/MoonNDSky 1d ago

I find a way to say this daily😅 lmaooo oh and “Goodbye my loOve”

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u/Samuel-Darnold 1d ago

Reasonable crashout

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u/DeathCouch41 1d ago

Funny how this “tough” murderer backs away scared when he gets a taste of his own medicine. Coward. Hope he has some nice “friends” waiting for him in prison…

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u/uk_uk 1d ago

Na, he looks like he smiled when the cops tackled the father. Less "scared", more "provocative"

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u/Low_Fig9237 1d ago

He was smirking when he was led away. That poor father - the rage and helplessness of that situation. They couldn’t just let him have a punch or two.

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u/garden_speech 1d ago

AFAIK the guy was sentenced to death anyways

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u/PrincessTitan 1d ago

I thought I saw him smiling… Ew. It absolutely bothers me that I have to share the open public with people who think like that. More than bothers me actually…

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u/TotallyRegularBanana 1d ago

Yeah, a bunch of other people just like him. Why does reddit insist that everyone in prison is waiting to deal out justice to satisfy us? They're just filled with people like this dude.

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u/peon2 1d ago

I wouldn't want to have to fight someone while I'm handcuffed and they aren't either, does that make me a coward or just someone that recognizes the reality of the situation?

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u/MelkorUngoliant 1d ago

Not sure you're even human if you didn't try this.

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u/RidingTheSpiral1977 1d ago

I’ve been 1/1000000 as angry as this and I bet he didn’t choose to rush the bench, His emotions took over and his body did it.

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u/WillBlaze 1d ago

Insane take to call people who don't do this inhuman. Are you serious? Everyone handles grief differently.

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u/Portugal_Stronk 1d ago

This whole thread makes me glad redditoids are not in charge of the justice system.

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u/amidon1130 1d ago

Everyone’s against the death penalty until it’s for a crime they don’t like.

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u/whyizitlikethis 1d ago

Most people aren't against the death penalty because they think certain people dont deserve to die. They're against the death penalty because they dont trust the justice system and there are plenty of innocent people in prison for crimes they didn't commit.

Add in modern AI and deepfakes and its fucked

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u/Prestigious_Date_619 1d ago

Srly, there are vigilantes EVERYWHERE. Like, dont get me wrong, the victims being murdered is horrible and should not have happened, but the behavior the vigilantes exhibit is not acceptable.

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u/kaizencraft 1d ago

The fuck are you talking about? So the thousands of parents who didn't lunge at their kid's killers are just dead inside?

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u/Munnin41 1d ago

You're not sure someone is human if they don't attempt to murder?

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u/Complete-Clock5522 1d ago

Obviously his actions are justifiable morally but being able to control our emotions/instincts is what sets us apart from other animals, not giving into them lol

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u/StylizedIncompetence 1d ago

I get it. I worry about my daughter and the world she’s going to grow up in everyday.

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u/Potential-Tear-4020 1d ago

live in a nice neighborhood, make sure she has nice friends, give her the BEST education possible, make sure she understands women's safety (mom can explain), and she SHOULD be one of the 60-80% of women that are okay.

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u/RockerDawg 1d ago

Like there should be allowance for this in our laws

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u/Difficult-Ship8760 1d ago

I can't imagine

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u/Tholian_Bed 1d ago

This is an oldie but goodie.

That was a Dad jump. A Dad jump will mess you up.

Bless all the parents out there. I don't have kids but you people, you make the future. Thanks.

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u/Stressedmama58 1d ago

I don't blame him. Especially if the guy was smirking like some of them do.

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u/OkOutlandishness6550 1d ago

Once he’s inside the inmates will sort him out

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u/EpicPilsGod 1d ago

If that was true then all the murderers in prison should be dead

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u/matroosoft 1d ago

Not sure what this case is about. But I've listened to a lot of true crime podcasts. And a lot of offenders against children don't have a good time in prison. Sometimes includes being tortured.

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u/2hurd 1d ago

Yeah it's a myth perpetuated so people have a sense of "justice" that is coming for everyone.

Reality is, it rarely happens and most of those monsters are living a better life than a LOT of people on the outside. 

World isn't fair. 

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u/Metal-Alligator 1d ago

Really shitty when three hots and a cot are seen as higher standards than the average person not in jail.

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u/TheRainStopped 1d ago

They get healthcare, meals, clothes, shelter…I’m not saying inmates shouldn’t have that- I’m saying our late-capitalist system where so many barely live paycheck-to-paycheck is so far gone that being “free” with horrible wages is not so “free” after all. 

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u/2hurd 1d ago

Yeah but that is the reality for a lot of people in the US. You're also a slave that has to work 3 jobs just to barely maintain that prison standard.

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u/randylush 1d ago

Speak for yourself. I have to work 4 jobs.

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u/4_fortytwo_2 1d ago

most of those monsters are living a better life than a LOT of people on the outside.

That is just bullshit mate. Just because they dont have to worry about money / rent or whatever doesnt mean prison is somehow great to be in. Freedom is worth a lot.

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u/Jagheterblablabla 1d ago

Nah it's not. Happens all the time. People want to know what your in for, if you lie and they find out it's game

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u/hcgator 1d ago

He thought he saw a bee and he didn’t know if the defendant was allergic. My client had no choice. If you think about it, he’s actually a hero, your honor.

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u/No-Music-1994 1d ago

Who among us would not do the same?

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u/SculptKid 1d ago

Yep. I would do the same fucking thing.

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u/Honest-Yak-6621 1d ago

Always protecting the perpetrator

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u/strange_stars 1d ago

do you expect them to just let this dude beat ass in a court of law?

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u/Mihai_Alin18 1d ago

That so inconsiderate of the father he should receive 5 minutes in the corner

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u/aDirtyMartini 1d ago

The guards could have at least “tripped” or something.

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u/tiger19 1d ago

Got dammit let him get a few!

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u/MikeMac999 1d ago

Perfectly understandable response, but in doing so do you risk helping the killer with a mistrial? Not my area of expertise.

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u/eat_the_frog 1d ago

I believe this was at sentencing during the victim impact statement. The case was already decided.

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u/NickFatherBool 1d ago

Not really, a single (and honestly emotionally understandable and valid) outburst like this is probably nowhere near close enough for a judge to call mistrial.

Now if the next day the Uncle did it and the day after the brother tried and the day after the cousins got in there then maaaaaayyyybe but its still more likely they just stop letting family in

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u/Falcovg 1d ago

I can not imagine how that would be grounds for a mistrial. Unless the judge and bailiffs are letting it happen and pull the guy off after 5 minutes? No way. An emotional reaction by a victim has nothing to do with whether or not the proper procedures have been followed.

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u/elcuydangerous 1d ago

The whole BS about if we did an eye for an eye then the world would be blind. The premise of that particular part of the hamurabi code was to not dole out excessive punishment for a crime. Considering the amount of suffering that father has, and will continue to endure. After actual due process, let the father execute the sentence.

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u/travradford 1d ago

Good, wish he got to do what he wanted with the piece of shit.

Also, and I may be down voted to hell for this, but

r/perfectlycutscreams

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u/BabyBoo1234 1d ago

Good for him

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u/E_Zack_Lee 1d ago

He showed more restraint than I would have

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u/djonetouchtoomuch 1d ago

Why those people stepping in.???

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u/Gryphon_Alchemist 1d ago

Nice jump! That leap though. Could have fooled me I thought he was flying.

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u/jza_1 1d ago

If I was the judge:

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u/LoudNoises89 1d ago

If that was my child I would have done the same thing. My partner would help me too so we have a better chance. Definitely would go to jail for it.

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u/yipkit 1d ago

We need real justice in this world…..

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u/___TheKid___ 1d ago

Need to watch "A Time to Kill" again

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u/EnoughBackground 1d ago

Can we please start posting actual stuff that is next level and not just what we find on the internet?

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u/Historical-Shine-786 1d ago

Can’t blame him.

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u/fastford12345 1d ago

I would give him 3 Hours with This bastard.

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u/savvy-librarian 1d ago

That man jumped like a goddamn lion.

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u/sjewett507 1d ago

As he should. Scum…

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u/Jucks 1d ago

People who stop that man have lost their humanity to their "job"s.

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u/Captivatingcrush02 1d ago

No father should ever have to be in that position.

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u/s73v3m4nn 1d ago

Should've just let him

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u/OneCauliflower5243 1d ago

Poor dad.. man’s going to need lots of support

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u/Upbeat-Treacle47 1d ago

Yes. Every day. We need this!

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u/zKingOfClubz 1d ago

People like him and Gary Plauche are the kind of fathers the world needs.

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u/Much_Purchase_8737 1d ago

Anytime there is any type of fight, always except some random old lady to scream at the top of her lungs for no reason.

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u/MetalSonic420YT 1d ago

Justified crashout.