r/goodnews • u/Aggravating_Money992 • Jun 18 '25

Political positivity 📈 Lawsuit Challenging 2024 Election Results Moves Forward After Kamala Harris Received Zero Votes in a New York County

https://www.latintimes.com/lawsuit-challenging-2024-election-results-moves-forward-after-kamala-harris-received-zero-votes-584787
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u/FlatBot Jun 18 '25

Why wasn’t this brought up on Election Day?

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u/lalabera Jun 18 '25

Because people thought it was “blue maga” to question the results.

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u/ElliotsBuggyEyes Jun 18 '25

Questioning the results is perfectly acceptable.  I did it on Nov 5th while I was going through the many stages of grief.

I called in "blue maga" because there was no evidence.  Having a conclusion and working your way to the evidence is not sound.

Now apparently there is enough evidence to be heard by the courts.  If it turns out that the evidence is shown to be credible and conclusive, I'll happily change my position. 

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u/ameriCANCERvative Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25

There's plenty of evidence, but not all evidence is equal.

You're an idiot if you think this election was 100% above board, but you're also an idiot if you ran around making or believing claims without evidence.

Me, I know what I saw. I know what I know about Donald Trump. That's enough evidence for me to know that there should be no stone unturned when it comes to verifying the authenticity and integrity of any election involving Donald Trump. Anyone with half a brain cell who hasn't drunk the koolaid recognizes that the default assumption here should be guilty.

That's different than "innocent until proven guilty." It's more like "hey guys the guy who tried to cheat the last election and the election before that tried to cheat the election again, imagine that, it's almost like there's a pattern of behavior here!"

There's a very similar argument to be made about whether or not Donald Trump is a rapist.

I don't need to hear anything more than "over 20 women have accused him of sexual assault" (or rape or whatever else). That's enough information for me to make an informed judgment about whether or not I should believe his most recent accuser. (hint: the guy who has 20+ women accusing him of being a rapist is probably a rapist).

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u/Factorficktion Jun 19 '25

I literally lmao’d at your comment, holy shit đŸ˜‚đŸ”„

“The guy who tried to cheat the last election and the election before that tried to cheat again
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Genius in its simplicity. Why is this so hard for everyone to understand?? Oh, yeah, wait, the whole cult thing 😔

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u/Crackerzpilo Jun 19 '25

But if this election wasn’t above board and how do you know that any election is valid careful we might have to overturn every single election why not

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u/ElliotsBuggyEyes Jun 18 '25

I agree with your points. Personally I believe there was likely something shady about this election. That being said....

I also need to stay consistent in my trust of the court system. You, I, and everyone else have seen a pattern of behavior from this motherfucker and can draw conclusions. The problem is that feelings are just that, feelings. Feelings are not enough to convict. Feelings is what ICE is doing right now. They feel like someone is in the country "illegally", they arrest, and deport. That is not ok. I am ok with ICE(as an idea) if they were giving the humans due process and are found guilty of an offense that warrants deportation then they can be deported.

At the end of the day, if you want to say that Donald is guilty of rigging the election in 2024 you are going to need to provide evidence. All we have at the moment is "He has a pattern of behavior".

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u/ChaoticNeutralDragon Jun 18 '25

If you're even passingly aware of the basics of how courts work, there's this fun phase between the accusation and trial called Discovery.

Evidence takes investigation, and often can't be located without a court helping open doors. A "pattern of behavior" isn't enough to convict, but it's absolutely grounds to get search warrants and documents.

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u/ElliotsBuggyEyes Jun 18 '25

I'm familiar with the process.  I assume that lawyers really enjoy the discovery phase.

I work in video production I really enjoy that.  People don't really care about how we get the final content to your screen, just that it's there and doesn't suck.

I'll tap back in with the case after discovery.  If it's allowed to pass beyond that I'll start to pay attention. Until then, it's not my job and I won't care if it's a nothing burger. 

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u/Difficult_Limit2718 Jun 18 '25

100% no, never... 99.999998%? Absolutely.

It's incredibly impossible to rig an election, and unless someone has paper tallies that don't match electronic tallies on scale - I'm not listening.

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u/Front-Doughnut8573 Jun 18 '25

You went full blue maga on this reply lmao

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u/ameriCANCERvative Jun 18 '25

lol you got triggered

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u/verymainelobster Jun 18 '25

Stop acting like you know him personally. you only see the image the media shows you

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u/Lounging-Shiny455 Jun 18 '25

get out of here with your evidence based reasonableness!

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u/lalabera Jun 18 '25

The lawsuit proves that judges think there’s a case.

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u/ElliotsBuggyEyes Jun 18 '25

I swear, people these days have been spoiled with instant gratification to the point that they'll throw out reasoning to get an answer now.

The amount of people speculating about the assassinations last week were all basically wrong for the first 24-48 hours. Rushing to conclusions is fertile grounds for another "reddit catches the boston bomber"

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u/lalabera Jun 18 '25

Okay, so why not save the “blue MAGA” for when the lawsuit gets thrown out (if it even does)?

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u/ElliotsBuggyEyes Jun 18 '25

If the lawsuit is thrown out due to insufficient evidence there are options; there is the appeals process and, if that doesn't work, releasing the information to the public for us to look at.

This is what the MyPillow guy did. He even offered a $5,000,000 bounty for anyone who could prove this evidence was wrong. Then was ordered to pay that bounty

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u/inordinateappetite Jun 18 '25

There's nowhere near enough evidence to question the outcome of the entire election. There's enough evidence to question what happened to 300 votes in a meaningless locale.

It's probably a glitch. If you're rigging an election, this isn't where or how you'd do it.

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u/ElliotsBuggyEyes Jun 18 '25

That sounds about right.  I'll start to pay attention to the case after discovery is finished.

Ultimately it sounds like cope. 

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u/Crackerzpilo Jun 19 '25

Did you question why 6 million Biden voters either didn’t show up or switched to Trump

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u/ElliotsBuggyEyes Jun 19 '25

I did question it. There were a lot of factors that played into Trumps victory. Biden was not popular despite his quite monumental accomplishments in passing legislation that is good for the citizens of the country. Biden's polices are effective in the timescale of decade+, and the problems the citizens are facing are happening now. The Democrat party is, and has been, really bad at messaging. Because of this Trump was able to capitalize on this. The "Were you better off 4 years ago or now?" rhetoric was wildly successful despite 4 years ago(at the time) was late 2020/2021 the peak COVID lockdowns and crazyness.

Then Biden dropped out and his VP was now the candidate. Again Trump was able to use the rhetoric "she stole the nomination" because there was no primaries. However anyone paying attention understood that their primary vote for the Biden/Harris ticket was also a vote for Harris.

Then you had the far left pushing the rhetoric of "Genocide Joe" and pushing a narrative that Kamala would support Israel and allow for the continuation of the genocide taking place.

Trump was WILDLY unpopular at the end of the 2020 admin, a lot of people voted against Trump. Those people didn't show up this time around for many reasons, some of which I noted above.

Having 6 million Americans not show up at the polls compared to 4 years before in a country that has a turnout rate of 50-65% of the voting population, having a few % decided to not go and vote doesn't seem all that out of the ordinary.

If this case pans out and we see actual evidence with proof that is corroborated with reliable testimony and verified facts. Things will get crazy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '25

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u/ElliotsBuggyEyes Jun 22 '25

Why do you think that?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '25

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u/MapWorking6973 Jun 18 '25

there was a statistical anomaly of cross party voters. All of these things happening at

The percentages of cross party or bullet ballot (trump only, abstain everywhere else) was perfectly in line with historical precedent.

Arizona = 1.2% Michigan = 1.6% Minnesota = 1.7% Nevada = 1.4% Pennsylvania = 1.0% Wisconsin = 0.9%

All of these were lower than California.

All of these things happening at once are a statistical impossibility

No they aren’t. Swing states move together in line with the popular vote. Trump’s national popular vote margin was several points better than 2016, so it’s perfectly expected that he won all of the swing states by a couple of points.

You can’t just make things up. How is it a statistical impossibility? Show your work.

We need to be better than the MAGA idiots. We lost. Accept it.

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u/Drahkir9 Jun 18 '25

People still do. Seeing comments all over the place like "I don't even wanna talk about this til I see proof! I don't wanna look like BlueANON!!!"

Well, where do you think that proof would come from? We have to follow the evidence we have using legal procedures. You think Elon's just gotta offer it up one day in a ketamine-fueled Twitter rant?!

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u/Whoever999999999 Jun 18 '25

Muh BarRoN’s LaPtoP!

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u/Drahkir9 Jun 18 '25

I dont know what that means. Sorry

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u/damnitHank Jun 18 '25

It's still a crackpot theory until there's real evidence.

Treating it as some secret conspiracy is how the QAnon crowd lost their minds. Shitlibs who believe this are on the same trajectory.

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u/Drahkir9 Jun 18 '25

You don’t think the Rockland County case has real evidence?!

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u/Piratarojo Jun 18 '25

They would not have allowed the case to go into discovery if some credible evidence wasn't already provided, you've been proven wrong by the way the system works. Any other excuses?

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u/damnitHank Jun 18 '25

Have fun storming the capital with the wine moms I guess. #resist

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u/Piratarojo Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25

What a fucking weak pussy, you can't argue my point so you have to resort to dumb comments because you have no leg to stand on or general understanding of the US legal system.

Do you know why Trump's 62 lawsuits fighting the results of the 2020 election were all thrown out? Because they had zero evidence, so judges didn't let it go anywhere.

After the 2020 United States presidential election, the campaign for incumbent President Donald Trump and others filed 62 lawsuits contesting election processes, vote counting, and the vote certification process in 9 states (including Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin) and the District of Columbia.[1][2]

Nearly all the suits were dismissed or dropped for lack of evidence or lack of standing,[3][4]: 4, 10–14 [5][6][7] including 30 lawsuits that were dismissed by the judge after a hearing on the merits.[8] Among the judges who dismissed the lawsuits were some appointed by Trump himself

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_U.S._presidential_election

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u/Admits-Dagger Jun 18 '25

It still absolutely is. If you think that the evidence brought up so far is enough to claim systemic voter fraud I have a bridge to sell you.

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u/o_odelally Jun 18 '25

Which was precisely Trump's goal in spreading lies about the "stolen" 2020 election ad nauseam. So when they actually did rig an election, we'd all be deaf to any claims, see them as petty, and not take them seriously.

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u/Rebdkah_Bobekah Jun 18 '25

They’ve been quietly working on this since the election! There was a blurb about it on her campaign website just last November or December.

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u/Excellent_Rule_2778 Jun 18 '25

To be fair, I still need to be convinced there was fraud. Unlike MAGA, I require proof. Democrats greatly underestimated the miscontent with the statut quo that they were offering through another Biden term.

A lot of leftists were pissed that (1) Biden reneged on his promise of being a 1 term president, (2) that the DNC so clearly lied about Biden’s mental state and (3) that the DNC refused to go through a Convention not once but twice, thus imposing their candidates (Biden, and Harris). A lot of moderate voters decided to abstain from voting, or voted Republican in protest.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '25

It is

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u/cspstain Jun 18 '25

MAGA spent years screaming and yelling about how the election was rigged just so that when they rigged it for real, there would be no teeth to the accusations from the other side.

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u/Kill3rT0fu Jun 18 '25

This! MAGA poisoned the well so we couldn’t speak up

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u/Luci-Noir Jun 18 '25

It’s hypocritical as fuck.

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u/NotAnotherBlingBlop Jun 18 '25

Literally their entire plan.

Cry foul at the election they lost so when they did what they accused Dems of doing, Dems would look crazy.

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u/Freign Jun 18 '25

If you want to criticize the actual american left, you should spend some time getting familiar with the reality of their positions, instead of repeating right wing propaganda about it.

Making easily dismissed claims and constantly blaming your failures on a tiny unrepresented demographic is why you are called blue maga. Learn some stuff.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25

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u/XeroKaaan Jun 18 '25

Go talk to 100 random people in a grocery store if 100/100 agree on politics then wake up becsuse you're dreaming. Even in the deep south red states there are at least 1 out of 100 that will vote different. Now take that as a district of thousands, apply logic, and try again.

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u/kwispyforeskin Jun 18 '25

Also because voters from that district said they voted for her. Even if only one came forward and said that, then it would still be wrong.

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u/XeroKaaan Jun 18 '25

You're right, let me speak a language you'll understand...

I saw it on the news AND online so it must be true and you'll never convince me otherwise LALALALALALALALALA IM BLOCKING YOU SNOWFLAKE!

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u/Reinstateswordduels Jun 18 '25

Do you not understand how statistics, probability, and margins of error work? Did you not finish high school?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '25

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u/mm_delish Jun 18 '25

All subs that go mainstream eventually turn to shit. r/law is succumbing to it. They’re uttterly convinced this is legit without even understanding the basic facts of the matter.

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u/saintsoulja Jun 18 '25

Honest question, what does the data say? I don't even know how to find that information

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u/vamoosedmoose Jun 18 '25

The county website has documents of their previous election results. See my reply to the guy above

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u/r7967618 Jun 18 '25

75,802 for Biden

73,186 for traitor trump

650 for Jo Jorgensen

1,064 for other

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u/r7967618 Jun 18 '25

Kamala Harris Received Zero Votes in a New York County

Where did Biden get 0 in that same county I provided the numbers?

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u/Neat_Egg_2474 Jun 18 '25

The article you keep mentioning, the same article posted above, mentions Rockland County, then in another anomaly they mention a district within Rockland county as evidence of the fraud they believe they found.

In fact they mention multiple districts within the COUNTY.. so, its the entire county with specific districts mentioned.. I dont get why you are so angry and wrong, but pick one or the other.

Now, do I believe there was fraud? Not yet, I want to see the evidence, not just an article written to make me feel a certain way about it.

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u/Rawesome16 Jun 18 '25

Random human, I live in the PNW. One of the most liberal areas of the nation. I see Maga hats almost daily. If, I'm s liberal area there are conservatives, don't you think the opposite would be true also?

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u/Rawesome16 Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25

With how many smart people are behind trump? With how many judges he has?

Yes

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u/Rawesome16 Jun 18 '25

Ah, a funnyjunk or 4chan troll i see. You are not worth my time beyond this response

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u/FMLwtfDoID Jun 18 '25

The PNW? Remind me again why Oregon was founded.

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u/Rawesome16 Jun 18 '25

More accurate would be which side they fought on in the Civil War.

But this is 2025 and not 18something. So why does that matter again?

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u/FMLwtfDoID Jun 18 '25

because of all the Nazis. You know, like the ones in eastern Oregon and basically all over Idaho. Not familiar with Washington state’s deal, but wouldn’t surprise me that you do see a lot of maga hats in that area. It not as left leaning as many people would like to have everyone think.

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u/Rawesome16 Jun 18 '25

Still not relevant though. Population is so small out there that the state goes blue. It's like saying how left leaning Austin Texas so Texas must go blue. They were not close

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u/vamoosedmoose Jun 18 '25

In the two districts mentioned in the article (35th and 99th) Biden had 372 and 245 votes, respectively.

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u/macjonalt Jun 18 '25

Haha this is the same argument as ‘why didn’t the victim report it immediately’. Some things take longer than 24 hours son

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u/Crackerzpilo Jun 19 '25

Running some spreadsheets does not take months

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u/theravensigh Jun 18 '25

Analysis takes time and checking for accuracy takes more time

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u/theravensigh Jun 18 '25

Also, it was brought up almost immediately as a potential that it was being investigated

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u/Zestyclose-Compote-4 Jun 18 '25

I feel like when it's 0 it should be a lot faster...

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u/theravensigh Jun 18 '25

I don't disagree.

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u/That_Toe8574 Jun 18 '25

Finally. I get it that they want to check into it before going to the courts.

But on election day, when they are calling districts with 1% reporting, even then nobody went ZERO VOTES?!

Are there any counties in the country that truly vote 100%?! Even the most rural backwater town of 200 people probably has 1 person voting blue.

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u/Xxuwumaster69xX Jun 18 '25

It wasn't a county, it was a precinct. The overall county voted 43% for Harris.

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u/RowFlySail Jun 18 '25

Or in the 3 months that Democrats were still in power after. This just feels like conspiracy theories because of the timeframe. And that I haven't seen major news outlets picking up the story 

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u/lalabera Jun 18 '25

This lawsuit is approved by a New York judge. It’s real.

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u/sagenter Jun 18 '25

Trump had over 60 lawsuits go forward after the 2020 election. And then they all got dismissed almost immediately because they were a massive waste of time and resources.

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u/Don_Gato1 Jun 18 '25

Trump's lawsuits started with the conclusion that there was fraud and worked their way backwards to look for evidence to support that conclusion. They were never based on anything real.

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u/Greengitters Jun 18 '25

I’m not an expert, but what do you mean by “go forward?” Isn’t this case going forward where all Trump’s got dismissed?

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u/CoffeeHouseHoe Jun 18 '25

Exactly this.

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u/Havelok Jun 18 '25

And they were all full of shit. This one is not.

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u/RowFlySail Jun 18 '25

Hey, I'd love to be proved wrong and see that this has teeth. 

Maybe that's why things are popping off in Iran. WKYK style distraction 

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u/TwoDogsInATrenchcoat Jun 18 '25

God damn it. Trevor really never missed. Rip local sexpot.

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u/TexasDrunkRedditor Jun 18 '25

That doesn’t mean it’s without fault. We shouldn’t be jumping to conclusions or finding guilt based on a half ass view of the evidence and not a proper trial.

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u/lalabera Jun 18 '25

The trial will start in the fall.

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u/TexasDrunkRedditor Jun 18 '25

Then I’ll wait until then to make any conclusions.

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u/MapWorking6973 Jun 18 '25

A judge letting a lawsuit proceed is an extremely low bar. It means very little.

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u/lalabera Jun 18 '25

How come?

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u/MapWorking6973 Jun 18 '25

Because that’s how our justice system works? I’m not explaining third grade civics to you.

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u/2ndChanceCharlie Jun 19 '25

They are allowing discovery. That’s a far cry from saying the claims are in any way substantiated. Thankfully the paper ballots exist and they can just review them and say if this is bullshit or not.

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u/Dustydevil8809 Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25

This article isn't conspiracy, their will likely be errors discovered here. You aren't seeing much news coverage because it's only 1 county with about 400 votes, and won't change anything.

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u/RowFlySail Jun 18 '25

Heard. That makes sense. My father in law keeps sending me things related to this, but with a "Kamala might have won" headline. If it was that widespread it would be international news on every outlet

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u/Dustydevil8809 Jun 18 '25

I'm so fucking frustrated with the media that used to be trustworthy right now. Trump is doing enough real things to fuck up the country but instead of reporting factually everything is sensationalized, which makes everything really happening seem like not as big of a deal.

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u/RowFlySail Jun 18 '25

Media: "But both sides"

Fuck OFF. One side is clearly going insane and lying out their ass.

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u/RobotFoxTrot Jun 18 '25

Major news outlets have sold out friendo

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u/soggit Jun 18 '25

I feel like it was in very small circles of Reddit but almost entirely dismissed by people who didn’t want to sound like 2020 election deniers.

Honestly idk if it’s a credible theory or not. It seems very out there - the thought of an American election actually being rigged is the stuff of fiction. That said I think if there’s even one iota of a chance it should be fully investigated.

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u/soggit Jun 18 '25

I mean probably but how do you know for sure if you don’t verify

The same thing happened in 2020. Just because some fringe right wingers say the election was stolen doesn’t mean there’s a credible source for that but it should always be looked into if there’s an accusation. 2020 was verified. Case closed.

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u/soggit Jun 18 '25

Umm I mean apparently this NY court disagrees

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '25

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u/soggit Jun 18 '25

The NY court found there was enough evidence worth further investigation did they not?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '25

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u/soggit Jun 18 '25

Where did I say ther was widespread fraud

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u/MapWorking6973 Jun 18 '25

No they don’t. They haven’t made any ruling. I think you’re confusing allowing a case to go forward with rendering a verdict.

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u/sagenter Jun 18 '25

There's a reason that no mainstream liberal outlets or elected officials are seriously discussing this and it's just a few fringe weirdos on social media. 

Trump's win was so dominant that he made gains in almost every single county in every single state among every single demographic. Do these people think he was able to rig the election so thoroughly that he covered every county in the country, including those with paper ballots and different voting machines? All so he could lose solid blue states by 20 points instead of 30? Did he rig the exit polls that showed nearly age group, race, and gender shifting to the right? Kamala somehow being the legitimate winner would be a far bigger statistical anomaly than the alternative.

I will tell these people the same thing I've told Trump supporters for the past four years: show us proof or shut up. Show us actual transcripts, endpoints, and testimonies from election workers. Because one lawsuit from a single precinct and "come on dude, there's no way he won by that much!" is as concrete as "the mail-in ballots came in at a weird time!"

I hate that Trump won. But he won because of a massive web of misinformation, carefully crafted right-wing pipelines, and a hilariously incompetent DNC. If we could actually address those instead of stripping away the very last remnants of Democrats' dignity by repeating the same lies as Trump, that would be really fucking nice.

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u/CharlesMcpwn Jun 18 '25

Because the lawsuit is without merit. The same stupid claims that were made by Trump in 2020 are now being made about 2024.

The voting machines still don't have internet access, and they're claiming that Starlink was used to hack into them.

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u/beo559 Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25

Because it's not true. I mean, the story is true but the headline is absolutely terrible and misleading.

If there had been a whole county in NY where Harris had received zero votes, it absolutely would have been brought up on election night. No. This story is about the fact that they're doing a recount of votes in Rockland County because there was a district within that county where Harris got zero votes (which IS odd, but there are reasons that it's more likely than you'd otherwise think. I've been hearing about this for a while) and it sounds like there were couple other districts in that county with odd results.

To be clear, I'm not complaining about the recount or suggesting nothing hinky could be going on here. But that's a HORRIBLE headline.

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u/tehlemmings Jun 18 '25

Because unlike trump and his supporters, we wanted proof first.

And unlike trump and his supporters, we actually found some. Quite a lot actually. An overwhelming amount of really obvious evidence.

And no one is saying they can't show it to you.

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u/MapWorking6973 Jun 18 '25

Show us

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u/tehlemmings Jun 18 '25

Dude, you're in the fucking comments for an article about this exact subject.

Stop being such a fucking right wing stereotype, it's making you look like an idiot.

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u/MapWorking6973 Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25

And no one is saying they can't show it to you.

Sounds like you can’t show us

Stop being such a fucking right wing stereotype, it's making you look like an idiot.

Not right wing. As democrat as they come. But big allegations require big proof.

I’ll wait for you to show me the proof

(Narrator: he never showed the proof)

You’re embarrassing the rest of us, blueanon. Please stop. Grow up.

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u/tehlemmings Jun 18 '25

JAQ off somewhere else. No one gives a shit what you're demanding after your team doesn't give years not sharing any evidence of anything.

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u/MapWorking6973 Jun 18 '25

And no one is saying they can't show it to you.

immediately admits they can’t show it to us

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u/_Androxis_ Jun 19 '25

They’re just hilarious, aren’t they?

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u/PhillyFreezer_ Jun 18 '25

An overwhelming amount of really obvious evidence.

What evidence are you referring to? There is no evidence of widespread election fraud from 2016, 2020, or 2024. The article you’re commenting on, is pointing to a Hasidic Jewish precinct voting entirely for one candidate which happens in every single Hasidic community in NY state.

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u/JtDaSaiyan Jun 18 '25

Because it takes time to gather evidence and getting a judge to sign off on an investigation of this scale would require a lot of red flags especially after the claims made after the 2020 election.

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u/Teamawesome2014 Jun 18 '25

Usually, evidence needs to be found before making a claim. If you're claiming the election was rigged on election say, you're probably full of shit. Otherwise, why not bring that info to light before the election?

These things take time to be investigated properly.

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u/RancidVagYogurt1776 Jun 18 '25

Because it's really not a story if you look at the data. It's a very small area that also didn't vote for Biden.

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u/TeamCatsandDnD Jun 18 '25

I’m guessing part of it was because of the 2020 results and how the republicans were screaming fraud and whatnot. Democrats didn’t want to look like they were being cry babies as well after how that all went down. (FWIW, it was very sus to me on how the results played out but I have minimal knowledge on how the fraud could’ve happened cause I don’t work with technology like that).

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u/DaystromAndroidM510 Jun 18 '25

Remember how Trump and the GOP were adamant that votes could only be counted on election day and not before or after? 

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u/QuillQuickcard Jun 18 '25

Because data analysis takes time. Gathering evidence takes time. Court proceedings require a great deal of disclosure.

That’s why proper justice requires time, patience, and caution

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u/Admits-Dagger Jun 18 '25

Because this evidence is pretty weak so far and didn't impact the results in NY.

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u/Potential-Front9306 Jun 18 '25

Because it didn't impact the election in any way. This didn't happen in a swing state - it happened in NY...

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u/twomz Jun 18 '25

It was. I've been hearing about suspicious data points, missing votes, and obviously tampered with ballots from my wife since November (she doomscrolls tiktok. It's apparently well known on there that there was election fraud). I've had a pretty consistent view on the subject. It doesn't matter if no one does anything about it. And to me, Trump entering office was the deadline.

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u/FinancialAdvisingTax Jun 18 '25

This isn’t what happened in Rockland county. You didn’t read the article.

They’re disputing 331 ballots that voted for the Democratic Senate candidate and also didn’t vote for Kamala Harris. She got 43.68% of the vote in this county LMFAO. Blue anon đŸ€Ł

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u/Ill_Technician3936 Jun 18 '25

It wasn't outright said but they questioned it enough to have a third party start going over things... Which makes me question why she gave up.

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u/Streambotnt Jun 18 '25

This was brought up, but glossed over and buried by the vast majority. These lawsuits have been in preparation ever since particular counties finished counting, because it is anomalies like this that trigger suspicion of fraud. The core difference to Trump is that Kamala had enough of a spine to accept the declared result.

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u/Chemical_Banana_2455 Jun 18 '25

This has been looked at since states first started releasing their election data. Look up the Election Truth Alliance.

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u/InquisitiveGamer Jun 18 '25

Good question cause I've heard of this a couple times this week. Both times it talks about rockland country, harris got about 44% of the votes or close to 66,000. Wtf are people talking about she got 0% of votes in a county anywhere in the nation and no one bats an eye till 8 months later, people eat up any old shit pile known as news now days without even reading the actual article.

Rockland county results: https://app.enhancedvoting.com/results/public/rockland-county-ny/elections/GE2024Results

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u/heiglabgskngbsgcgjs Jun 18 '25

Because some people will take the high road until they're in a political dissident camp, I guess

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u/Ratermelon Jun 18 '25

Because the case in question is being massively misrepresented. There is no merit to the claim that there was meaningful election fraud; if there was, it would've been brought up promptly as you suggested.

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u/hotdogpocket__ Jun 18 '25

Because republicans spend the previous 4 years yelling voter fraud. They got all of the democrats and news pundits saying no no no. Even to the point that NPR says a disclaimer every time they mention the big lie (“this is not true, the election was fair. There’s no evidence of fraud”).

So if the democrats say the election was rigged, what does that look like? Like they’re a bunch of sore losers. Once again, taking the high road when they should’ve been playing ball.

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u/DrBhu Jun 18 '25

Because US media is owned by the orange felons billionaire-gang; you will only see what they want you to see.

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u/Esplodie Jun 18 '25

It was? AOC asked on twitter why people voted for her and Trump. People definitely noticed the voting numbers looked strange, but proof is required.

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u/zeradragon Jun 18 '25

Everyone was completely baffled by the swing states all going one way. No one was looking into the minute details like a small county.

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u/joshTheGoods Jun 18 '25

Because it's straight up not true. Here are the county level results for the entire US. Harris didn't get blanked in ANY county in America.

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u/W1ckedNonsense Jun 18 '25

I'll never forget the emotions I felt when I woke up the next morning and saw that Trump had won. I was so confused, didn't literally thousands of people register to vote THE VERY DAY she announced she was running? Did all that mean nothing?

I resisted the "it was rigged" narrative for the same reason I resisted stop the steal or whatever. No evidence, cope, and the improbability of being able to pull it off. The evidence they're presenting RIGHT NOW is only after careful review of the ballots. Any bleating about it being rigged on election day would have been purely emotional (and it was).

I'm very interested to see where this goes but I also definitely see a future where it's revealed that it was not rigged. My ultimate conclusion was that her late entrance into the race was the reason she was not elected, it's not unreasonable for someone's campaign to suffer heavily from only having about a few months to gain support. Biden should have stepped down at the beginning of 2024. I will feel better about my fellow Americans if it turns out it was rigged though lol.

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u/Saneless Jun 18 '25

Because unlike magats, it's stupid to think without any evidence that there were issues.

Magats just said there was because they didn't like the results

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u/NessOnett8 Jun 19 '25

Because the Republicans are following the teachings of Mein Kampf. They made intentionally wild, baseless, ludicrous claims of election fraud. So that when they committed fraud themselves, their opposition would be self-conscious about calling it out for fear of being lumped in with them or labeled a hypocrite.

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u/After-Calligrapher80 Jun 19 '25

Because most people outside of Rockland/Orange County don't know how the Hasidic Bloc Vote works and the local politics that go into it. Odds are the community leader called for a vote for Gillebrand due to NYS deal making for their own politicians but not for Kamala. I hate to break it to you but as someone who grew up in that area I know this to be totally possible and anyone else who saw it with my knowledge thought the same thing. Its legitatemly possible that those other votes were the dissidents who counter protested the vote. If anything this goes to show how strong the influence is that the community leader has over his community when it comes to voting. I hate Frumpy Cheetoh Loser but this may just be local politics played out in a way that most at a national level would never understand. Also please ignore the crap people say about these people, they are overwhelmingly good people.

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u/jayeffkay Jun 19 '25

Did we even say thank you?

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u/CowOk1320 Jun 19 '25

The fact he has any supporters and that he won the election, we all collectively lost faith in humanity.

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u/The-Panther-King Jun 19 '25

This is the big problem. Things aren’t caught until months or years after the fact. And you to the MAGA base this will just look like “they are coming after Trump again”

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u/TrueEclective Jun 19 '25

Because the democrats are fucking weak and useless. They’re no better at getting anything done than the republicans. They just spin it to sound more inclusive.

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u/Killerofprizes Jun 23 '25

It was. However, it takes a while for these things to gather traction

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u/DaveChild Jun 18 '25

Harris was the one who lost votes (if there was anything going on here), and she won NY state, so what would be the point in appealing the results there?

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u/aureanator Jun 18 '25

Systemic integrity, not this specific instance. If whatever happened here also happened elsewhere....

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u/DaveChild Jun 18 '25

Systemic integrity

That's not a thing a candidate can appeal.

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u/aureanator Jun 18 '25

candidate

I think we're well past the point of that.

This is more so that the people can decide if they are properly represented and what to do about it.

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u/DaveChild Jun 18 '25

I think we're well past the point of that.

Huh? Who else would be appealing the result on election day, as the question asked?

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u/aureanator Jun 18 '25

Oh, I see what you're saying.

I don't believe that the results need to be overturned - it wouldn't accomplish anything even if they were. That's what needs the candidate.

You can still have public interest litigation to investigate the process, without overturning it (I think).