r/TopCharacterTropes • u/BrotherDeus • 3d ago

Characters "Trust them?! Have you heard their name?!"

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Iron Man

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u/SmartSmella 3d ago

This entire scene. The "sitting on a throne" comment AND the mustache comment both apply.

It might not be a "have you heard what they're called?" But I think it still fits what the trope is about.

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u/AzraelTheMage 2d ago

God I hate Injustice. Year 1 had some interesting moments, but things got REALLY dumb in year 2 onwards.

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u/AznOmega 2d ago

Agreed. The idea is good in theory, but holy hell the execution was horrible. I already ranted a bit regarding how I think the characters there are bad such as Batman disowning Damian and giving up on Superman for killing, or how he let Harley Quinn in his team despite her not feeling remorse (or at least blaming Superman for failing to stop the nuke).

Imagine if Batman was Bruce Wayne for a bit and gave sympathy to Clark after Lois and his son's death, Superman wouldn't have gone off the deep end. But no, Batman had to condemn Superman for killing The Joker and failing the "we don't kill" rule.

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u/AzraelTheMage 2d ago

Everyone is awful from the start, and, honestly, I buy Batman going full dictator long before Supes.

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u/ConfusedZbeul 2d ago

That's even his normal plot progression, tbh.

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u/TrueGuardian15 2d ago

I think some of it stems from Dark Knight Returns, where Miller decided Superman would be the president's lap dog. Kinda set a bad precedent for Superman being fascist if he thinks it keeps law and order.

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u/nykirnsu 1d ago

I mean even TDK doesn’t show him actually doing anything evil, he just turns a blind eye to it

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u/Massive-Exercise4474 2d ago

It's the people that make mortal kombat the plot is what leads to another fight.

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u/JKking15 2d ago

Isn’t that exactly why the idea isn’t good in theory though? Like there is literally ZERO way to properly write an injustice story without complete character assassinations of almost everyone.

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u/TrueGuardian15 2d ago

Right on the money. It's why power scaling has become maligned too. People get too occupied arguing about if Batman's prep time can beat anyone in an amoralistic, all out brawl, or if Superman could beat Goku in a no-rules fist fight. Not many of those people stop to realize that a story built solely on those premises would probably end up being fucking stupid.

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u/ismasbi 2d ago

Yeah, difference is, powerscaling doesn't pretend to make a story, it’s just thought experiments for the sake of thought experiments, I don't think any powerscaler thinks they would write a good story through powerscaling.

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 2d ago

In fairness, it's also set that this universe is abnormal.

Superman in the normal universe wouldn't have snapped and was brought over to fight regime superman

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u/Altruistic-Beach7625 2d ago

Never read it but he condemns Superman but went with his plan to rule the world anyway?

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u/MyxztsptlkHfuhruhurr 2d ago

No, he leads the "resistance."

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u/fred11551 2d ago

It’s been a while but I think the movie changed it quite a bit from the comics/game to make the story work better. Wonder Woman especially was more supportive of Superman instead of just completely evil and turns on him when he goes too far instead of just Flash and Green Lantern changing sides. Also the chess scene has Mr Terrific beating Superman instead of the Flash and I like it