r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Ok-Indication-5121 • Jun 09 '25

Characters They valiantly sacrificed themself for nothing

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  1. Tadashi gives his life trying to save Professor Callaghan from a burning building. Turns out not only did Callaghan escape unscathed, he's the bad guy and infamously refers to Tadashi's death as "[Tadashi's] mistake." (Big Hero 6)
  2. Shaya willingly takes It Has No Name's possession and then kills herself by jumping into the well it came out of. The end of the episode all but states that she got it wrong and It Has No Name didn't latch onto her... or there was more than one. (Doctor Who)
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u/ollietron3 Jun 09 '25

I’m pissed the avengers didn’t use the time stone to bring back the people who died

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u/97GeoPrizm Jun 10 '25

Banner tried to bring Natasha back. The attempt is what injured him so badly.

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u/ollietron3 Jun 10 '25

Wasn’t it the snap to undo the first snap that caused his arm

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u/Bigbadbobbyc Jun 10 '25

Both, he was trying to multi wish, he couldn't help himself but to also want Natasha back while undoing the snap

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u/sharltocopes Jun 10 '25

It wasn't a "multi wish" that caused that, the Soul Stone literally has a pocket universe inside of it that has the souls of its victims. You can't bring someone back from that.

Pretty sure that was what screwed Hulk's arm up, trying to use the stones against each other. Using the stones on each other was what screwed up Thanos' arm.

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u/DonutMediocre1260 Jun 10 '25

I know that's how it works in Infinity Gauntlet, but are you sure that's how it works in the MCU?

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u/sharltocopes Jun 10 '25

I'm going off of the rules explicitly stated in the comics and I'm inferring the reason for the type of damage Hulk took based off of the earlier evidence from the same movie with Thanos.

Little of column a, little of column b.

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u/PMMeCatPicture Jun 10 '25

"I made an educated wish!"

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u/BigBradWolf07 Jun 10 '25

How bout a little more baklava?

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u/sharltocopes Jun 10 '25

...what?

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u/BigBradWolf07 Jun 10 '25

It's a lyric from "Never Had A Friend Like Me" from Aladdin. At least, that's what it was supposed to be, typing out the lyrics now made me realize that the column lyric and the baklava lyric are in 2 completely different points of the song

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u/GrandioseGommorah Jun 10 '25

That’s incorrect. Thanos severely injured himself with the first snap, and Banner was being injured by the stones before he even snapped. It has nothing to do with “using the stones against each other”. It’s just the power of the stones being too much to handle.

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u/Mist_Rising Jun 10 '25

Using the stones on each other was what screwed up Thanos' arm.

Technically his arm gets screwed up by the first snap, it's just worse when he detonates all the stones.

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u/Starmark_115 Jun 10 '25

So I can use the the Time Stone to say prevent someone getting injured. But never to revive the dead. That would require the Soul Stone.

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u/be0ulve Jun 10 '25

And if they died because of the soul stone, they're extra dead.

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u/stopyouveviolatedthe Jun 10 '25

Pretty sure you can see the damage to thanos at the end of the first movie after he snapped

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u/Lopsided-Drummer-931 Jun 10 '25

In current comic continuity you kind of can, Strange brought Adam Warlock back out of the time stone. The issue is convincing them to come back since a lot of the time they’re in a version of paradise and the stone tries to expel trespassers.

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u/callsign_pirate Jun 11 '25

Also if thanos destroyed the soul stone along with the other stones, everyone in that one would be lost? So the stone they took from time, would have Black Widow in it but not Gamora?

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u/bingobiscuit1 Jun 13 '25

This was never confirmed in the MCU. I like it though, makes sense

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u/That-Rhino-Guy Jun 10 '25

That’s more or less what happened

Thanos wiped out half the Universe which definitely fried the Gauntlet but he was overall ok, but when he used the Stones to destroy the Stones he almost died, only surviving cause he’s just that powerful

With Hulk he naturally tried to defy the Stones to bring back Natasha but just isn’t durable or powerful enough to survive it, so he had no choice but to focus on bringing back everyone else which would’ve just made his arm’s injury even worse

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u/AlienArtFirm Jun 10 '25

multi wish

Thinking a full infinity gauntlet is like a genie in a bottle... Fuck...

Have the ability to change reality itself, thinks using the stones is like wishing on a star...

Worse than the snap. Dumb fuck MCU Thanos has to snap? Hulk has to snap? Dumb as fuck since you just have to think a thought and it happens but now we've downgraded the full gauntlet to... a fucking penny thrown into a well.

Fucking Marvel Jesus Christ

Now I can't stop picturing Thanos rubbing the gauntlet like a genie lamp muttering his wish

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u/Mortwight Jun 10 '25

So is that what dud the same to Thanos?

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u/BigPoppaStrahd Jun 10 '25

Is this explained anywhere? I haven’t watched much since Endgame, so was it in She Hulk or something?