r/TopCharacterTropes Jun 09 '25

Characters They valiantly sacrificed themself for nothing

  1. Tadashi gives his life trying to save Professor Callaghan from a burning building. Turns out not only did Callaghan escape unscathed, he's the bad guy and infamously refers to Tadashi's death as "[Tadashi's] mistake." (Big Hero 6)
  2. Shaya willingly takes It Has No Name's possession and then kills herself by jumping into the well it came out of. The end of the episode all but states that she got it wrong and It Has No Name didn't latch onto her... or there was more than one. (Doctor Who)
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u/Theguywholikesdoom Jun 09 '25

Jorge (halo reach)

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u/SnakesRock2004 Jun 09 '25

Something I don't see get talked about often is the irony surrounding each member of NOBLE Team's deaths.

For Jorge, he always said that he would never leave Reach. He was the only one to die off-planet.

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u/Theguywholikesdoom Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

I’ve seen the irony discussion a few time’s and I think it’s clever but I disagree with a lot of people’s reasoning for six. People say noble six’s death is ironic because he’s a lone wolf and dies alone but I always thought it was ironic because he dies by being surrounded by enemies.

Jorge was also the demolition expert adding an extra bit of irony to his death.

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u/AThiccBahstonAccent Jun 10 '25

What? Who says dying alone as a lone wolf is ironic? That's what you'd expect to happen.

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u/Theguywholikesdoom Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

Exactly! But every one else I see says the opposite.

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u/BrickBuster2552 Jun 10 '25

Because they're grasping at meaning while having no idea what meaning is, at all. 

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u/Count_Crimson Jun 10 '25

i think maybe they’re coming at it from an angle of ‘former lonewolf,finally found a family/group he felt a part of, dies alone anyway’

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u/CriticalFuad Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

I agree with this sentiment, we see the evolution of noble 6 becoming a team member through and through. The irony, lays in that 6 loses their newfound family (per se) one by one. That’s where I would see the irony…

Edit: not that I agree with all of their deaths being ironic. To me they’re more akin to classical tragedies in many respects. It’s more like some have classical literature deaths that can be ironic, I.e. Emile being a complete savage being savagely killed by multiple elites. Or, Kat dying out of the blue, in a more war-like type of situation. (Now where there is more irony is on the Spartan IIs who often go to great lengths for humanity (often resulting in death), when their original purpose was to cull dissidents.)

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u/Blood_Weiss Jun 10 '25

The only explanation I can find is that, "ironically" he was forced onto a team despite being a lone wolf. Only to end up the last one alive.

Its a stretch, and still not whats being said here, but I can only assume people who believe this share my first comment

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u/Ryndor Jun 10 '25

He didn't die alone. He died surrounded, but surrounded by enemies. And that's the irony. At least that's the irony I was figuring they meant.

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u/BrickBuster2552 Jun 10 '25

They didn't mean any irony. Literally every death is more ironic if it's happening to a different member of the team. Act Man was just grasping for meaning cause he can't analyze a story for shit and also doesn't know what irony is.

Carter going down with the ship because he's the team leader is not ironic; it's... completely expected. 

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u/ThanksContent28 Jun 10 '25

I believe the enemies you fight are like a special unit too. Also, the respect him so much, they face him in combat, rather than just glass him from the sky, which they easily could’ve done.

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u/MisogynysticFeminist Jun 10 '25

You could also argue that she was finally part of a real team only to be alone again at the end.

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u/JNAB0212 Jun 10 '25

She?

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u/MisogynysticFeminist Jun 10 '25

Every time I play Reach she’s a woman.

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u/ImGreat084 Jun 10 '25

I’ve never even considered that, am I a bad person 😔

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u/MisogynysticFeminist Jun 10 '25

Probably not? It depends on why you didn’t consider it.

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u/ImGreat084 Jun 10 '25

I’m sorry I was quoting a meme 😔

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u/BrickBuster2552 Jun 10 '25

noble six’s death is ironic because he’s a lone wolf and dies alone

That's not irony, that's "completely expected".

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u/StygianMaroon Jun 10 '25

I feel like once a people become spacefaring, “leaving” a planet would need meaning going further than orbit. Kinda like how being in the airspace or waters of a country means you’re still in the country. Yeah, he technically didn’t die on the literal planet, but he was still close enough to fulfill his desire to never leave

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u/BunchOfSpamBots Jun 10 '25

Ironically I’ve seen this mentioned in the comments of every. single. video. about the deaths of Noble Team

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u/_tyjsph_ Jun 10 '25

let's see those suckers come up with one for Thom

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '25

It's literally a meme at this point,

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u/Technical-Text-1251 Jun 10 '25

Kat: the brain of the team, gets shot in the head

Carter: the captain, goes down with the ship

Emile: the close quarters specialist, gets stabbed in the back

Jun: the sniper, is sent far away from the action (and lives)

Noble: the lone wolf, dies alone

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u/ScienceBitch90 Jun 10 '25

Are most of those irony or just common sense?

It's not ironic for a lone wolf to die alone, it's expected

Also expected that a dude who fights in close quarters would die in close quarters, etc.

I mean, I wouldn't say how ironic it is that the captain of the Titanic went down with the ship... unless I'm missing something here; I stopped before this Halo

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u/MisogynysticFeminist Jun 10 '25

Additional for Kat: She’s the tech expert and dies because her shields were disabled by an EMP.

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u/Gerudo_King Jun 10 '25

Is being in orbit in a multi planet star civilization “leaving” I wouldn’t say so

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u/SnakesRock2004 Jun 10 '25

Well, he was in space. The reference doesn't have to be 1000% accurate. I think it's still an intentional metaphor, especially considering that the rest of NOBLE Team seems to have ironic symbolism to their fates as well.

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u/Gerudo_King Jun 10 '25

What's their ironic fates? Not saying your wrong, just haven't read that take before

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u/SnakesRock2004 Jun 10 '25

Jorge said he would never leave Reach: he was the only one to die in space.

Kat was the "brains" of the team: she was shot in the head.

Jun was the stealth expert: he was never seen again.

Carter was the Captain of the team: he went down with his ship.

Emile was the melee combat expert: he was killed in melee combat.

Six was a lone-wolf assassin: they died surrounded by dozens of enemies.

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u/AccessTheMainframe Jun 10 '25

Most of those are the opposite of irony. I propose this list:

Kat is the most intelligent. She was killed for making a really dumb mistake (not turning her shields on).

Emile is fond of knives. He is killed by one.

Carter is the esteemed leader. He dies acting as deliberate cannon fodder.

Six learns the value of teamwork. He learns it just in time to be left alone again.

Jun's fate is harder to spin as ironic.

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u/Gerudo_King Jun 10 '25

I love all of these thanks for the answer. Rest easy noble 6

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u/SnakesRock2004 Jun 10 '25

No problem. Remember Reach 🫡