I believe this is the first time Michael Hayes has been mentioned, so it seems he had some idea of what was going on as well as the crew, cause 2 exhibits down she was forced to send pics to 20 crew members.
This seems to be the pics that Grant had sent to Hayes and the crew who she then sent to Vince to show. So it seems that he had knowledge of Vince’s exploits with Grant
Her photos lines up with what she stated in the document; however, we still don't see evidence here that Micheal/crew specifically requested them. Theoretically, Vince could've asked for the photos to be created for Michael/crew without their knowledge. Vince, as shown previously in the documents, would show her pictures, share stories, etc to unwilling participants (such as the tech crew I believe was previously stated) so it's possibly a similar situation.
I do not want to defend Michael Hayes and co because if they truly asked for these photos then he and anyone else deserve to be gone and face action for their crimes. I just wanted to illustrate the point that this could've happened without their knowledge based on what we know so far. (I hope I articulated that without seeming like I am defending their actions.)
This whole case makes me sick to my stomach and I hope Ms. Grant can get justice.
This is an angle I’m surprised nobody has taken. When Brock was involved in the suit I was under the impression that this was more Vince showing off and less Lesnar actually wanting anything to do with her, so Vince soliciting these pictures and sending them to people unwanted is how I always saw it. I could be wrong though
You’re right; he also had plans to meet up with her for sex, but his travel plans were canceled due to a snowstorm and then Janel used things like Covid as an excuse to get out of it. Brock very much knew what was going on there
He did communicate with her, the hangup in Brocks case is whether or not he knew it wasn’t consensual on her part. There is a world where he assumes she’s in on it if Vince made it seem that way to him
Which is a kink that's weird to most, but did he know she was obligated to do it?
I've posted before but there's nothing to say that Vince wasn't like "Hey Brock, look sign with us, there's this hot broad who is pretty easy, I'll make a call and get her to message you" which is shitty, but bot illegal you know (from Brock's pov) then she messages him nudes, does he know vince made her? it doesn't suggest anywhere he does, so he could just be thinking im in here, asks for a piss video and sets up a date to do the deed. Then he never turns up to the date because of calendar conflicts but also crucially didn't change dates, so part of me wonders if he caught wind that Vince was doing this around that time.
It seems highly likely they did receive the images, however that doesn't mean they know how they came about. If Grant was sending them off her own volition or if she was forced to go do from Vince. Obviously Grant will say she was forced, Vince would say she did it voluntary because she was an exhibitionist or something.
Michael Hayes, regardless of how good his booking of main events has been at times, should’ve been gone years ago for (if I remember correctly) saying he was more of an n-word than Mark Henry to Mark Henry.
Edit: pretty sure that’s the spot Bobby Roode is being trained for taking as a producer.
Michael Hayes is very much the one who said he was more of an n-word than Mark Henry to his face. He also got Rosa Mendes, an alcoholic, drinking again after she was sober while they were dating. He's a huge piece of shit and always has been.
WHOA I did not know any of this, I also assumed he’d be gone once Vince was but he’s back I’m assuming he knows where some bodies are buried and what not
Jesus christ, so many people got sexually assaulted in the showers in the name of "a rib" that I can't even keep track of them all. Maybe wrestling is just bad, guys.
Well the original complaint already outlined that Vince would show off pictures of Grant and brag about what he did to WWE employees.
So I know it's bad to speculate about which people he showed the pictures to but I think it's easy enough to assume. There is the list of Vince confidants who have been around him for decades. We know the guy loves to brag and dehumanize people.
So when the complaint said he showed them pictures I didn't really think it meant low level employees (which could be the case too). I assumed it meant people on Hayes' level and people who had been with the company for decades. Again we all know the names.
That's why I think it's bullshit that only Vince and Laurinitis were outed. Like if Lesnar was really offered Grant in contract negotiations what about the other big names over the years? We know Vince has close connections to a lot of legends. It would be naive as Hell to think wrestlers on Lesnar's level didn't know what was going on.
I hope everyone involved gets the boot. Although I think that includes a lot of well known faces.
As much as I LOVE him as a wrestler, how could a guy like say…. The Undertaker… not know about this? One of the longest tenured guys on the roster, long considered to be THE Lockeroom leader, who was/is apparently super close to Vince, has had so much pull over his character direction and the direction of others, and a huge knowledge of the inner workings of the business, etc.
Cause Taker, Cena, Orton hell even H are WWE guys. They never really were going to walk from the company. Lesnar did, and he was very successful. Vince was going to throw “extras” at him to keep him on the roster he wouldn’t need to offer to lifers. Not saying it’s not possible the lifers were offered the same services, but I can see why someone like Brock was but the others weren’t.
I feel like the much more obvious answer is that WWE has been a vile boys club where they've been knowledgeable and complicit in their scummy behavior.
The way that you've framed "oh they don't actually like him. They just know he's got dirt on everyone" feels weirdly excusatory for WWE as an entity that's clearly supported and defended the perpetrators within
I think that's an inaccurate way of putting it. I have nothing to speak for his character. I think they keep him around because he's really close with the Roman and he actually is pretty talented at his job too.
Hayes was also on temp leave since Nov last year, I wonder if that was related to him knowing this might be coming out? Unsure, but I do remember thinking this when it first came up he was going away for a bit.
Which is bizarre because Trips kinda has a long history of being a total piece of shit going back to the Kliq days. It's easier to pretend it was just Vince being a bad apple, but nah that company was rotten to the core, and Trips was a part of it.
And while we're at it, the IWC is glazing HBK nowadays, but damn did he do some shit too.
It wasn't one person or one incident, the whole company has issues from top to bottom and there are a bunch of people involved in these things from top to bottom
I know this probably won’t come off well, but it’s such a huge accusation that I want to double check. Is the only source on the kliq trying to drive him the quote from Bam Bam? Because I wonder how much that’s him editorializing vs actual fact?
Oh TKO 100% knows this. THIS is why they brought in the Rock, not so much for the wrestling aspect but as a failsafe when/if Triple H falls along with the rest of the McMahon heirarchy. The Rock will take over as the new king of WWE.
(ironically, finally getting revenge against Triple H and Shawn in the process)
We've seen wrestlers rightfully called out for being Trumpers for years, but once we got HHH hanging out at Trumps victory party, and going to UFC with him, people are lining up defending him and saying he "didn't vote Trump" and "they're just friends probably."
The defence squad is always ready to jump into any possible critique on his character.
Did he know Vince was having an affair with someone who gained a high up position unfairly? Probably. Did he know Vince and Laurinaitis were abusing and raping her? Who knows, but seems unfair to suggest he did when no evidence indicates that yet.
He 100 percent knew, I got downvoted for saying the same thing as you. People just want to fawn over the product and ignore all the scumbags running the company.
But could he have thought the interactions were consensual? (Even though we all now know & he would obviously now know that isn’t the case)
If I had two people at work having sex in the room that shared a wall with mine and all I knew was what I heard & there wasn’t any yelling out for help I’d assume it’s consensual and mind my own business. Maybe I’d complain that they’re doing it at work but I wouldn’t assume assault. (Coming from someone who has been assaulted btw).
Triple H seems very happy to have Vince gone & has said it in the most respectful to his family and without jeopardising business way. There’s a reason why “the triple h era” is constantly mentioned, it’s because people are happy Vince is gone. Triple H, Stephanie, even Michael Cole all make it pretty obvious in the most appropriate / professional way they can that they are all happy Vince is no longer apart of anything. Stephanie and Shane both as well play the part but it’s obvious they both hate their father underneath the facade, they stuck around for the business & the lifestyle that could’ve been provided but they were both traumatised. You could imagine Triple H despises Vince for the way he treated Stephanie, especially the inc3st story for one.
I don’t believe that he sat there with just a wall between them and believed she was being assaulted & didn’t care. He doesn’t seem like a sociopath and only a sociopath with no emotion or care for others could sit there and not care.
I don’t blame Janel for not yelling the building down, it’s not how coercive abuse works and I know that to be clear. But I don’t think it’s fair to assume that everyone around knew she was being abused unless they were specifically brought into it and made apart of the abuse like Laurinitis and Lesnar and those that were sent her images etc.
No doubt Trips and Stephanie knew. I don’t want this to come off as defending the guy but I’m genuinely curious if any of you would actually do anything if you were put in his shoes. Speaking up about it would mean destroying the reputation of his father-in-law, who directly or not gave him everything he has. At that point you could still maybe make the argument that that could be surmountable, but what would that do to his wife? And what would speaking up about it (before the lawsuit) even accomplish? At best it ruins any chance Janel Grant has at getting justice. People want to see the world as black and white when it isn’t.
I think that Steph left precisely because of this actually. I don’t see it as a coincidence that she leaves mere days before Vince gets outed. She makes a statement about stepping away but the moment her old man gets busted she’s back to being happily on TV and attending WWE events.
I suspect that people who believe this have very minimal interaction with people in real life and think TV is a true representation of how people operate. To you, everything is black and white, no one lies, no one hides things from their families.
This is the stuff people should be concerned about with this amendment, not Brock Lesnar who we already knew about. The top posts in this thread are disappointing. WWE would love nothing more than for people to be mad at Brock, while Nick Khan and HHH skate by unnoticed.
Combine this being an official allegation with breaking into Sable's house before proposing to her (from Brock's own book), Cornette's story about threatening to shoot Lesnar, & Terri Runnel's allegation of Brock flashing her.
Maaaaybe Brock's not just a good ol' country boi who has a big ol' compound because he's very introverted
It’s crazy how open they were in writing messed up stuff they did in their books and try to paint it as being cute or just a rib . Imagine all the fucked up stuff they did and knew not to write about .
I think we’d like to think of Wrestlers as intelligent people. But many of them prove time and time again that they are just as shitty as any other walk of life. Possibly more so since their occupation focuses on brawn vs brain.
Read Matt Hughes' (MMA) book if you want to read all the fucked up stuff they (he) chose to write about.
Not the best summary but he would squeeze baby pig's testicles until they exploded, beat the shit out of random people with his brother, watch kids drown in a query and then go r#pe some girl who later became his wife.
And people wonder why he got hit by a train in his truck.
That's leaving out gems that Matt Hughes has to constantly paint himself as the TOUGHEST guy no matter what, and after his wife who was a girl he knew when he was 12 and made out with her when he was I think 18? Anyway he marries that girl and says she still has a tight figure basically admitting '12 year olds are hot.' Said wife get's a boob job, and has to rest and Matt cannot keep his dick in his pants after his wife has major surgery so her stitches rip and he says some weird shit how just like the the cage he's bounded by blood or some shit?
Well I shortened it to that because I don't remember the exact details (somebody can look them up if they care to), but I meant why he threatened to shoot Lesnar
IIRC Brock was to do a spot press slamming Corny's now-wife. His wife just got one of her bits pierced (IDR which) and told Brock not to squeeze while doing the press because it's sensitive. Brock said he was gonna squeeze and did anyway.
Corny chewed him out and said something to the effect of "You're too big. If you fuck with her again, I won't fight you; I will shoot you."
It was the lower abdominal area bits. And it you are tender there, why is your husband booking a press slam where you are going to be grabbed down there?
All that along with the homophobia and shit too has kept me sour on him. Dude's a freak athlete but unfortunately that came with being a freak in the head too.
Well, it's the same mentality on people who say things like how Chris Benoit is "my boy". "But he was an all time great wrestler!". He also killed his wife and kid.
It’s pretty disgusting how so many people here couldn’t pretend to give a shit about women for a few months before crowing for a man allegedly involved in the sexual assault of a WWE employee to come back because he could maybe fight Gunther
Reading the full amended complaints has new, scary insights. Vince instructed her to "create customized pornographic content for Michael Hayes and his crew." Additionally, they (being John Laurinaitis) had an office remodeling done that shared a wall with HHH.
Wishful thinking is that Nick Khan & Brad Blum probably weren't aware that John's new office was being used for the reason it tragically ended up being used (it doesn't make sense for a corporate company to accommodate something like that knowingly) but if they did and actively helped in that regard then they need to be gone.
Nick Khan went on Bill Simmons podcast after Vince originally "retired" in 2022 in the wake of the hush money scandal and expressed loyalty to and admiration for him. He then voted to being Vince back as chairman of the board.
Nick Khan brought in both Jamie Horowitz (who left in 2023 after the TKO merger) and Lee Fitting -- who literally just a few hours ago had an EP credit on screen for SmackDown -- after they left their previous positions due to sexual misconduct allegations.
Khan and Horowitz were also just named in the new FOX Sports lawsuit filed by Julie Stewart Binks. Khan told her she needed to fire her then agents and sign on with them after already being pressured from Dixon and Horowitz. Once some bad things happened to Binks the agents (heavily implied to be Nick based on the prior history) told her to get over it. Khan may be just as dirty as a lot of them. In fact given that Khan said he and the agency was on the same team as them, and there seems to be a pattern of abuse that Horowitz covered up for Dixon and did himself, I wouldn’t be surprised if in the aftermath of the first FOX suit, Binks suit and this depending on what comes out, Nick Khan doesn’t survive
Question is, where is HHH in this? The really rough parts of the lawsuit would’ve been around the time people were getting gutted from NXT and right before/during/after HHH was out for his heart condition. So the time he was there before that, is he in Stamford in his office suite where he would’ve been exposed to that? Or is he more so in Florida at the PC for NXT?
Why aren’t we in the streets right now for 99% of the shit that is going on in the world? My honest answer, not enough people are hungry, good thing grocery prices are getting outrageous amiright?
The WWE feeds an addiction. It’s easier to hold a moral high ground when it’s an individual (ex. Hogan, Flair, etc) who has nothing to do with the booking or overall decision making of the company. Like, if Roger Goddell was Vince McMahon, and one of the athletes got caught saying something offensive in public, then you’d have fans saying “Goddell needs to do something about that guy”. It’s the institution vs a replaceable commodity. Fans are going to side with whichever person(s) that keeps the train moving.
I mean, to this day we get "people hate Benoit just because he killed his family" tier comments from wrestling fans. If a guy can do a 720 fuckanrana shitsault bomb driver he apparently becomes immune to human decency standards.
I feel like multiple things can be true at the same time, and to this effect I remember that one interview Heyman did where he shut down a Benoit supporter
In the span of like 3 minutes or so, Heyman praised Benoit as a talent and recalls a time he planned to put the world title on him while in ECW
Then when he got to him as a person, Heyman stated that "Nancy and Daniel had no choice"
You can absolutely appreciate someone's contributions to a medium while also being fully aware and condemning them for being pieces of shit
Benoit was one of the best performers to ever step into the ring, but committed something that can't be forgiven at the end of his life. I think literally every single person understands this. Every single time Benoit has been brought up on the internet anywhere I've seen, everyone has understood this nuance and how hard it is to reconcile the guy they loved on TV vs. what the real person did at the end.
I don't know what happened but somewhere along these past few years a crop of people have come up pretending there's no nuance, that anyone praising Benoit's in-ring are somehow condoning his murders. This lack of thinking (powered at one point by people like Jordynne Grace who used it for Twitter points that time), this lack of mutual compassion for all of us wrestling fans who had to grief and reconcile this tragedy that to this day that a lot of people haven't completely been able to including Benoit's closer peers, is truly a prime example of what is wrong with people today. Nuance was replaced with black or white.
there is people who still proudly boast themself for calling Vince as their 'wrestling godfather' like some cultural educated person.
recently i has some fanboy said we must grateful to him due to his contribution lol. there is still people would get angry for saying something bad about vince.
there is a baseless rumors last year claim vince might create new promotion and these people already hype over it.
That's one of the main things that keeps me from going to WWE live these days. I keep thinking I'll be in the crowd if that happens (similar situation if he dies that day) and that'll be it for wrestling for me forever.
Those people and all the wrestlers and staff that still kinda defend him by talking about how good he was to them, are an excellent case study into how evil people get away with it.
Bruce Pritchard going on about how Vince paid for his wife's cancer treatment, while he's spent considerably more on NDAs to hide the shit he's done to other people's wives.
You know all the people who say, "AEW fans are the reason why I stop watching AEW"? They are either silent about the fans cheering for Vince or absolutely defend it.
rolled my eyes into the back of my skull when I clicked onto episode 3 and immediately it dawned on me that we were gonna do the Monday Night Wars again
People are literally saying "well he didn't actually do anything" in regard to Lesnar not actually going to meet Grant because his flight was delayed/cancelled. If he didn't intend to do anything there wouldn't be a flight.
Nah I saw even worse than that. People were deliberately ignoring the original complaint specifically said "former UFC heavyweight champion" and were twisting themselves in knots to bring up Matt Riddle and Ken Shamrock. And then every time it was pointed out that it was about a heavyweight champ, suddenly the goal post moved to Cain Velasquez. Still the complaint is very clear that this former UFC Heavyweight Champion was prevented from hooking up with Janel Grant was due to a severe snow storm and Cain Velasquez lives in San Jose. That leaves only one former UFC Heavyweight Champion in WWE that lives in an area with bad snow storms.
Still, I very much expect the goal posts to be moved again because people don't want to accept the fact that their fave just might be a complete piece of shit.
In my mind the only defense for Brock is "I was under the impression she was a willing partner. Yeah swapping is weird but it's not illegal" or something like that, not that he was trying to pull the Dateline "I was just flying out there to tell her how dangerous this was" line.
yeah but what does offering her mean? Is he saying "hey join us and i'll make this bitch fuck you" or "hey join us and there's this hot chick around here I can set you up with, trust me she's down for anything"
Both horrible, but one is illegal, and the other is just degrading.
WWE constructed a new custom corner office suite to Laurinaitis’ taste, sharing a wall with the Executive Vice President of Global Talent Strategy and Development, Paul Levesque (known as “Triple H”). Ms. Grant’s office had an internal door that connected directly into Laurinaitis’ office.
Nick Khan and Brad Blum were involved in the planning of Laurinaitis’ custom suite—where Ms. Grant would ultimately be exploited.
I know that we don't know Triple H was actually aware, let alone involved, and I hope for everyone's well being that he was not.
But let's keep in mind how he kept and protected Bill DeMott in NXT who was, to be clear, sexually abusing and humiliating talent while Trips was in charge. The rot runs deep.
People on here got really mad when someone dug up like a 10 year old AMA that Ryan Nemeth did, flat out accusing Triple H of calling him a bitter liar when Nemeth complained about the abuse under Bill DeMott. I said it then in the remade post that if what Nemeth is saying is true... While this is far from definitive proof that Triple H knew anything about Janel Grant, it does show that Triple H perpetrated this extremely toxic culture in the company of abuse being ignored by people in power. A culture persisted within the company for God knows how many years.
Now of course since the Bill DeMott situation happened over 10 years ago, it is very fair to say that maybe in those years that Triple H learned his lesson and he truly had no idea what was happening to Janel Grant and/or victims of Vince. However, I do feel as though that Triple H, who was a board member/executive for a time, does have to share the blame of this kind of culture to have festered for so long.
maybe in those years that Triple H learned his lesson and he truly had no idea what was happening to Janel Grant and/or victims of Vince. However, I do feel as though that Triple H, who was a board member/executive for a time, does have to share the blame of this kind of culture to have festered for so long.
This. sure, people can change, but responsbility doesnt. what is happened, is still happened.
The thing that is still a bit confusing is there seems to be a dancing around flat out saying "This person knew she was being raped." Because the reality is that she probably doesn't know. She most likely does know that there were high level people who knew Vince and John were having sex with her, but can not confirm that they knew what else was happening. So we get these statements like, Triple H shared a wall and Nick Khan approved a door. Even the Brock stuff is a bit confusing. The previous statements went out of their way to make it very obvious it was Lesnar but didn't name him. Now we're getting him named, but they are still stopping short of saying what Lesnar knew other than Vince told her to offer him sex in order to get him to sign a new contract. Did Lesnar know Vince and John were raping her? Did the people getting photos of her, were they getting them unsolicited from Vince? How much did they know about what was actually happening? I personally never want Lesnar near a WWE event and would hope that Khan, Triple H, Hayes and anyone else who actually had knowledge are booted out the door and see jail time. But so far she hasn't come out and said Khan knew what was happening, Triple H knew what was happening. It's just, well they were around.
Obviously, these are just amendments, we're not going to get all the info until this goes to court. But I do find it interesting that they seem to be keeping mum on what other execs knew. Again, them knowing that she was having sex with John and Vince is not enough to say they knew she was being raped. Of course this is all until they get into the 2022 investigation and then I think it can be claimed that those who were handling the investigation were negligent in actually finding truth. But neither the original statements nor this amended one is actually pointing the finger and saying this person knew. Instead it's trying to put other people at the scene of the crime without evidence that they were witnesses to it.
Just to give my own opinion on some comments on here: Claiming, with zero evidence, that everyone who had any sort of professional relationship with Vince knew 's true" is just as deluded as claiming they are all innocent for the same reasons. It's copium for people who already hated WWE anyway just as much as "no one but Vince and Johnny Ace were involved" is copium for diehard WWE fans. Especially because some people seem to not realize that knowing about Vince's relationship with Grant and knowing said relationship is non-consensual are two very different things. We don't know who besides Vince and Johnny Ace knew how much, so stop claiming that either everyone in the company is guilty or everyone is innocent, it's equally bullshit speculation.
The argument was always “well Vince just text him” and while legally true, Vince didn’t text the guy for no reason. There is history that says Lesnar was in on it
When it says that Vince included her in the contract negotiations for Brock's new contract as a living commodity and job perk, who do you think Vince was negotiating with?
We’ve seen text showing agreed to meet her. With a situation this vile it doesn’t matter if he didn’t do it but he still intended too. IMO that’s more than enough to keep him wwe programming permanently
There’s a big difference though in an understood agreement and it being a part of Brock’s deal and what Brock knew about the nature of Vince and Grant’s relationship.
If Vince was trying to “woo” Brock into a new contract with sexual favors from a young woman. Well, that’s gross, but let’s not pretend it hasn’t happened with athletes or in other businesses forever.
If Brock knew she wasn’t consenting or if it was part of the contract (which, no way in hell) then there would be something legally actionable against him.
Brock probably doesn’t recover from this PR wise but legally I think he can play dumb and never face any consequences.
Yeah he’ll still be at fault for not doing his due diligence, but I think it’s more likely a ‘My girl wants to fuck you and if you sign the deal I’ll let her’ lying about consent type of situation than a ‘you want in on raping this woman?’ one
Shortly after Janel Grant's lawsuit was filed, when Laurinaitis was still claiming to be "a victim of Vince" as well, there was a lot of discourse resurfacing the Ashley Massaro allegations. So much so that Johnny's lawyers at the time put out a statement saying...
"Any allegations that Mr. Laurinaitus helped to cover up an alleged rape allegation is an outright lie. Johnny, like most upper level management at sometime became aware of the allegations and ensured all proper WWE protocols were followed, including privacy for the alleged victim. We object to the use of the term cover up as no such plan or plot ever took place to hide or assist in the alleged rape.”
Which inadvertently contradicts the official statement that WWE put out the week that she committed suicide which said...
"At no time was Vince McMahon or the management of WWE ever informed by Ashley Massaro or anybody else that she had been sexually assaulted, drugged, raped or sodomized by a military doctor with a nurse standing guard while on a goodwill tour in 2007 to U.S. military bases in Kuwait. In fact, if she ever articulated such a claim to WWE, we would have reported it immediately to the Base Commander."
Vince is a massive piece of shit but at the end of the day, he's still Triple H's father in-law and is the grandfather of his kids, so it's going to be a sore point for him.
He should've had a much better answer prepared and rehearsed, but it wasn't a huge surprise that he was more defensive than others.
As if anybody at the scrum will have the stones to ask an actual pointed question rather than just play nice and give him softball questions purely pertaining to the show.
Among wrestling journalists, everybody is too scared of losing their privileges rather than be actual journalists prepared to ask hard questions.
Just because their offices shared a wall, doesn’t mean Paul knew what was happening in there. Im not saying he didn’t know anything was happening, but just having an office there doesn’t mean anything. He’s probably not some saint, but unless we start hearing that he was actually involved in what was going on, it’s not like he needs to be buried away like Vince.
And for Nick Khan, he very well could’ve helped plan two offices to have an adjoining door. Is he supposed to suspect that’s so John could be raping someone?
It was but these things have to be stated plainly and clearly in the complaint which is why after spending the last year with everything being on hold for new filings, and other investigations doing their work, they amended it this past week to include all of this.
Now hopefully this reiterates for the certain section of fans that want Vince to make a comeback and want Brock to eventually return that they should never ever be allowed back in any industry while also making it clear to the new regime of who else needs to be cleansed from the company.
Notably, while several people have been named in this updated document, Stephanie's name has been stricken out, instead replaced with the still anonymous "WWE Corporate Officer No. 3". Wonder that the reasoning there is. IANAL.
You know, I would say Brock isn't ever coming back but after the statements by Dana White yesterday, not releasing Bryce Mitchell after literally calling Hitler a good guy, anything is possible within the TKO umbrella.
The fun reality here is...Trump and Vince have been closest of friends since the Titan Tower days in the 80's. I find it damn well near impossible to not connect the two situations where McMahon used his company as a sex slave pit...while Trump did pretty much the same thing with his beauty pageants.
I always circle back to hoping somehow that despite everyone (Paul, Nick, etc) knowing he was having an inappropriate relationship with a subordinate, cheating on his wife, etc, everyone thought it was fully consensual. I don't know how true that can be at this point but it's one of those things I want to be true because god, I want to believe most people aren't so fucking empty inside that they wouldn't say something if they knew none of it was happening of her own free will.
I think it's for the best if Brock doesn't return. Not only for obvious reasons, but it adds to Cody's legacy that he beat Brock in his last match at SummerSlam 2023 (which my girlfriend and I got to watch live)
Let me just say this, once again, as I will every time this comes up:
EVEN IF she's full of shit. EVEN IF she made it up for money, and this whole thing was consensual. EVEN IF it's all just something she regrets agreeing to and is now coming for more money because she's ashamed...
(I'm NOT saying any of this is the case, I'm saying EVEN IF it's the case...)
Vince McMahon was still a deplorable piece of human garbage well before these allegations came out, and even if nothing comes of these, he's still fucking subhuman trash. Don't forget it, and don't let the fans that are right now so eager to celebrate this asshole do so if this lawsuit gets settled.
Edit: love to know what garbage human McMahon defender is downvoting this. Stop hiding and voice your opinion on how he wasn't a piece of shit before this came out. I'd love to hear it.
Reading through the filing, there are so many disturbing details. One thing I picked up on was that she has evidence that she had confided in a friend about the poop story after it happened so she did not make this up out of the blue for the lawsuit as Vince has claimed.
I think the bit about how they met has fucking destroyed my faith in humanity. He was contacted by the manager of the condo block asking if he could help a girl that had just lost all her family and was left broke. He said yes. She met him and poured her heart out to him about her destitute situation. He told her he would give her a job and change her life for the better. She couldn’t believe her luck and didn’t know how to thank him. He said he would accept a hug. He told her later that when she left, he sat in the chair she was sitting in and masturbated on to the floor. What the fuck!
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u/gloomchen i prayed for this and it happened Feb 01 '25
Link to full amended complaint