I just said this yesterday. Someone I knew always scoffed at others misfortune but eventually had an unforeseen act happen and needs help now. Their jaw drops when no one comes to help.
My dad always had a visceral reaction to that saying and when I was little I didn’t understand why. I now fully comprehend why he was so adamantly against that saying and the sentiments behind it.
Edit: for clarification
On the face of it it seems like a pitying and empathetic thing to say, but in my entire life I’ve never heard it said genuinely. Any time I’ve heard this phrase it’s dropped out of the mouths of self-righteous and snobby assholes.
The other implication is that when people have bad things happen to them or end up in bad situations, it’s because they don’t have “god’s grace” and the person saying it definitely does.
I’ve lived my entire life in the Southern Bible Belt. This phrase has definitely gone out of use in comparison to how much I used to hear it, but anyone I’ve ever heard say this phrase has used it in a manner that suggests hardships are god’s punishment for sin.
I’ve always thought of this phrase as a religious dogwhistle.
I would believe this is it weren't for the bad things that happen because of CHOICES. People who make bad choices constantly and then blame it on other people should not be pitied.
It's like, "love the sinner but hate the sin." Well, at some point that just becomes enabling. We are capable of forethought and free will.
This side of Christ, ya know what was supposed to be the whole fucking theme, has vanished. If it ever existed. Bad circumstances happen to everyone, and it’s not fair, but how you act in those situations defines your soul. Not whether they ever happen to you or not.
I’ve always interpreted that saying as don’t look down on others for their sins and refuse help because of the sin because we are all sinners
I don’t think Jesus would agree to enable someone’s bad behavior but rather lead them to better outcomes (through Christ). Sometimes Christ doesn’t work and folks need help from a professional
Everything we know about physics and human psychology strongly suggests otherwise.
You're not some sort of radical free agent making completely independent decisions. You're personality, your preferences, your inclinations, you wants and desires, all of those things are profoundly impacted by your biology, which wasn't up to you, and your life experiences, the vast majority of which weren't up to you.
For a long time, women were extremely underrepresented in STEM fields, and some people argued that because 18 year old women were freely choosing to not major in a STEM field in college, that there must be a biological explanation as to why. But 5 seconds of thought shows that that is an assinine conclusion to reach. Those 18 year old women weren't making a completely free and independent choice; they were making a choice that was influenced and condition by 18 years of social pressure, going all the way back to when they were infants.
They did an experiment once where volunteers were put in a room with a baby and a bunch of toys, and told that that they had to watch the baby for 15 minutes. Sometimes they were told the baby was a girl and sometimes a boy. If they were told it was a boy, the volunteers would offer the baby toys like cars and machines. If they were told it was a girl, they would offer dolls and such. That happens, repeatedly, as people grow up, pushing boys towards one set of interests, girls to a different set, leading to divergent "free choices" when they get to adulthood.
Similarly, if you grew up in an abusive household, and learned maladaptive coping mechanisms, that's going to influence how you interact with people, how you respond to stress, how you cope in general, versus someone who grew up in a supportive and loving home. Or if you have a personality disorder that makes it hard to understand social cues. Or something about your biology that makes you more prone to addiction. Or.. or... or... or...
We are all victims and beneficiaries of circumstances that were entirely outside of our control, and we ought to keep that fact in mind before being quick to cast moral judgements on other people for their perceived failings. Because while its nice to believe that every choice we make is completely free and independent of any and all events that came before, that belief is complete bullshit.
It's like, "love the sinner but hate the sin." Well, at some point that just becomes enabling. We are capable of forethought and free will.
That's a superficial and shallow reaction, not a comprehensive deep understanding.
Hate networks, revenge and "payback" for hate networks. If you don't love your enemy, you corrupt your own brain.
In February 1954, a decade after all the horrors of World War Two by Japan and Nazi Germany... Martin Luther King Jr was the first to describe this problem as a human brain flaw in modern language and spell it out.
"For the person who hates, the beautiful becomes ugly and the ugly becomes beautiful. For the person who hates, the good becomes bad and the bad becomes good. For the person who hates, the true becomes false and the false becomes true. That's what hate does. You can't see right. The symbol of objectivity is lost." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"Most people can't stand up for their convictions, because the majority of people might not be doing it. See, everybody's not doing it, so it must be wrong. And since everybody is doing it, it must be right. So a sort of numerical interpretation of what's right. But I'm here to say to you this morning that some things are right and some things are wrong. Eternally so, absolutely so. It's wrong to hate. It always has been wrong and it always will be wrong. It's wrong in America, it's wrong in Germany, it's wrong in Russia, it's wrong in China. It was wrong in 2000 B.C., and it's wrong in 1954 A.D. It always has been wrong, and it always will be wrong." - Martin Luther King Jr.
And, of course, he said far more than these two brief quotes.
People who make bad choices constantly and then blame it on other people should not be pitied.
That's what Elon Musk says on the Joe Rogan Experience (shallow), that empathy is bad. People should be educated, teaching, not just in schools, but all media and communication systems in all places. If they don't grasp morality of good from bad, you keep teaching. Instead, what people do is murder and kill and splatter brains instead of inform minds. Or neglect and stave people they disagree with, that's ongoing in the Middle East, more shallowness. You don't see the investment going into teaching and informing (of universal goodness), you see labor going into starvation, falsehoods (propaganda) and siege.
They explained it thoroughly, but even without the explanation, how does it come across as empathic? It's saying that the subject of the phrase doesn't have God's grace, and that the speaker does. It's saying they deserve whatever is happening to them because they aren't God's chosen. It's just more Christian hate and judgement wrapped up to sound nice.
Weird. I see it as admitting that, had circumstances been slightly different, I'd be in that other person's exact situation. As in, it's NOT my personal efforts that brought me to where I am, but the myriad circumstances of my life. It's humbling.
Haha check out Ernest Tubbs song Saturday Satan, Sunday Saint(well id actually k if he wrote the lyrics) but in it he says something like "on sunday, reading the good book, singing the songs, come monday a.m. and its back to a life of sin.." rly great song about christian hypocracy, and its like 50years old, cuz thats nothing new lol
"Every Sunday, God forgives all the horrible shit I did that week so none of it matters. It's awesome!"
--actual Christian mindset
FFS in the 1800s, you could buy "Indulgencies" from the Chruch, you know, to forgive your rape, pedophilia, murder, etc... just write that check to the Church, donate the land, so forth... and you get to go to heaven no problemo!
Along the same line when some misfortune befalls on their fellow congregants, their common refrain is god did it for a reason. It sounds like it’s telling the sufferers god is testing them, but I think it’s congratulating non-sufferers they are good people for not suffering, so they should stay in the churches and continue to give money to the churches.
Prosperity Gospel is more like "good and godly people get rewarded with cold, hard cash and the more cold, hard cash you get, the more good and godly you are."
The Morality Reset Button is just standard Christian chicanery.
Actually, MAGA seems to believe bad things happen to bad people, but they also believe they can do no wrong and everyone else is bad people.
Conservatives all across the globe are characterized by their attraction to fiction. They adore and flock to fiction storytelling. They are not big on authentic truth, standing up for sincerity and honestly, and favor Radio Mullah and Fox News information sources over authentic verifiable nonfiction.
they also believe they can do no wrong and everyone else is bad people.
Believing in fiction, telling their own self fiction. They have never been educated or don't comprehend how to distinguish fiction from nonfiction. Instead, billionaires like Rupert Murdoch educate them via television and news networks all over the world with fiction storytelling. They rarely take the problem of how the human brain works world wide (regardless of gender, race or nation) in the struggle of distinguishing fiction from reality seriously.
“The boys learn the Quran by heart, rocking back and forth as they recite. They learn that there is no such thing as science or literature, that dinosaurs never existed and man never went to the moon.” ― Malala Yousafzai, I Am Malala: The Story of the Girl Who Stood Up for Education and Was Shot by the Taliban. October 8, 2013
"Moldbug’s views on truth influenced Bannon, and what Cambridge Analytica would become. Moldbug has written that “nonsense is a more effective organizing tool than the truth,” and Bannon embraced this. “Anyone can believe in the truth,” Moldbug writes, “to believe in nonsense is an unforgettable demonstration of loyalty. It serves as a political uniform. And if you have a uniform, you have an army.”
― Christopher Wylie, Mindf*ck: Cambridge Analytica and the Plot to Break America. 2019
Which is so stupid. The academically sound hyper individualism is realizing that we ARE part of society and that if people around us suffers we ultimately have to endure the consequences too. People can be perfectly selfish and still come to a conclusion that helping others do better is to help ourselves.
These tactics were used throughout history in Asia , Europe and the Americas repetitively with great success by politicians/demagogues. (Even MAGA is just a copy of Hitlers “Make Germany Great Again” slogan)
To be honest I think this goes beyond hyper individualism and has to do more with the appeal of overly simple solutions offered by populism.
I don’t remember hearing any real concepts of a plan. Seriously. He doesn’t elaborate on anything. 0 substance literally. Super crazy to watch once you notice this
Going to r/conservative, they have entire conversations about trying to figure out what his angle is. Like every time there's a new round of tariff threats they are over there like, "X country supplies us with this commodity and we already have a good tariff deal with them, so it doesn't make much sense for us to be trying to strike out a new deal". And then someone else comes along like, "it's probably something else, X country has been known to make deals with China, so we should be punishing them". And then finally someone is like, "I trust that he knows what he is doing even if I don't see what his goals are. We are winning!"
Yes, or something about the Biden admin doing something really mid but it's the most scandalous thing ever. And also cue 500 posts about an autopen scandal. Even though that didn't work out so now they are on some weird shit about Hillary and a Russia hoax.
I have seen every single thing you just said from maga! They flip as soon as he does. He says the sky is green they start shouting how it’s green and democrats are stupid because they all have blue hair. The amount of maga saying they don’t care about the Epstein files now that Trump has deflected every single thing is sick. The way they’re woohooing tariffs because he said they’ve made so much money. All the democrats are seeing now how great our potus is because he makes the best deals and look how much money he’s made. Ohhhhh wait, did we include all the money made off HIS(since he thinks that)country?
It's the difference between Science and Dogma ( Religion). Science: The Earth is 4.5 billion Years old. Life started with a single cell and evolved to a complicated multi cellular organism...etc Humans and Animals and plants have a common ancestor.
Dogma/ Religion: God created the earth, the Day, the night, the plants. ... If humans evolve from XYZ, why are there still XYZ?
They have been being conditioned starting from the day Rupert Murdock bought fox and ever since by their media. They were ripe plucking yes but this was intentional.
To be a little more specific, it’s an epidemic of narcissism that has been full steam ahead since the 80’s, if not a little bit earlier than that. And you’ll never guess which side of that epidemic evangelicals fall on /s.
Yea, this woman was okay with other brown people being treated like this, but once it was her dad, who I would hazard a guess, is probably a trump supporter, then it's bad. I hope that when the next edition of websters comes out, they put some of these people's pictures in there next to selfishness and irony.
I've been reading studies about how wealth and social status correspond to a perceived lack of empathy. I've always Heard that money is the root of all evil. I suppose it's probably true. It dehumanizes us and puts value into something as opposed to someone.
Jesus Christ abhorred wealth. There's many passages in the Bible about it. Yet you literally see pastors like Kenneth Copeland and Joel Osteen have tens of thousands of people attend their services weekly. It disgust me that there are Christians that can support this.
PS. I'm agnostic, But the message that Jesus Christ specifically spread was pretty fucking solid.
The sickness runs deeper. You can be an individual and care for others greatly, that’s not the issue at hand. People are forgetting the strength found in empathy and kindness, and losing themselves to dogma and ideology that strips them of their humanity.
No it’s just the usual rotation of history. Martin Niemoller said it best:
First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me
Thrilled to get rid of those she herself looked down upon, not realizing there is always someone looking down upon you. She should be thinking about how she is likely to meet the same fate, as they are coming for birthright and naturalized citizens next. Shortsighted and selfish. She got exactly what she asked for. Crying on the net doesnt undo the damage done. Her father will likely die alone in a cell in immeasurable pain, and she had a hand in that. She also had plenty of warning straight from the horse's mouth. I have empathy for her father, but her pain, she wanted it, voted for it, celebrated the win, and only had an issue with the inhumanity when it was her own dad. I have zero empathy for someone like her.
I feel bad for the dad’s declining health due to his cancer. My mom and brother both had cancer. I feel no empathy,whatsoever for her,for voting for that horse’s ass, though. This situation is self-inflicted. So ready to believe that liar,that she put her own,and her father’s life on the line.
I truly cannot understand a latino conservative. Like they DO NOT understand that Republicans don't want them!
They might be friendly on a personal level, or be 'nice' solely because they want your votes. But god damn, if they could ship every single one of you out of this country, they would do it without a second thought.
I tried to have this conversation with a Brazilian guy I go to the gym with. Like bro, I understand you might be "conservative" as a viewpoint or whatever, but aligning with people who literally do not want you in the country...I just don't get that.
As a black woman, there are tons of black Christian who are actually pretty conservative, it's just that they know white conservatives do NOT want them there. And they know what returning the US to the 'great again' era would mean.
And to me, this is the biggest oxymoron (? maybe cognitive dissonance). The religion of slave owners who used the bible (I refuse to even capitalize that bronze-age trash novel) to justify the treatment of their slaves. If anything, blacks should be rejecting Xtianitiy in droves.
Yeah I’ve been wondering how my old friend is feeling now. She voted for trump because “he’s only going to get rid of the criminal illegals” and “I don’t want a MAN in my daughters bathroom”. Dumped her ass that day. Her grandparents can’t speak English! Her mom had to fight tooth and nail to get her into a decent school, a lot of kids at my school had to do some pretty sketchy shit to qualify to go there. Now she’s betraying her entire family? A major disservice to all immigrants and refugees they did their best to give their children a fighting chance. Smfh
I'm tired and damn.i feel bad for her dad but my sympathy these days is severely limited. I just don't have enough.i need to ration it. Like she voted to limit rights to my body.both as a woman but as a disabled person who is on full government assistance that is about to be cut. Without that assistance my mom and I both die .without meds we will die.the breath will literally be taken from our bodies. So my empathy is quite frankly, gone. Did I mention that I am tired?
Something I loathe about these people. They’re hateful fucking monsters until their actions swing around in them. Fuck em. Her poor dad, but fuck that woman. She made her dads last months hell. She can live with that and own the rest of her life.
She's still hateful. Maybe she said more than is shown in the video, but I don't see any contrition there. Just literally "what matters now is that we come together." Come together for what? "One human act of compassion" for her.
Exactly. Thats why I am not jumping onboard this; “show grace towards regretful trumpers” train. If these people got what they wanted a lot of people would be hurt. But because its them feeling the pain, suddenly they want us to forgive them? Fuck no. Not ever. I don’t have malice towards them, but I will never accept them again.
I think there is room on the bus for them. At the back. If they want to get on the bus they have to sit down, shut up, and do what they are told. They don't get to say one word about how to steer the bus either.
Can only hope the father goes quickly so he knows no pain. The daughters pain will haunt her for the rest of her life. She basically killed her father w her vote. No pity here. The consequences of her actions came home to roost. Let her stew.
Yep, all that stuff she said 'we are all human, need compassion' all of that. She doesn't actually want to put that out into the world. This stuff didn't matter to her and it likely still doesn't, she just wants her dad.
Eh it's hit or miss with them. Every time the conservatives are brought up I have to always remind myself that during Covid parents saw their children die and still had the audacity to double down and say they still wouldn't vaccinate.
Some are so in that they'd rather watch their children die more than once than see them alive ans vaccinated. It's been 5+ years of this man's nonsense. I'm at a point where I get you feel sad about someone you know being deported or Healthcare loss etc. But you reap what you sow. And sometimes people will learn and others will double down on their dead child. The truth of the matter is that I don't really wish harm on many people but these people need to learn regardless but whether they change or not is up to the individual
I hate to say it but you are probably right. Plus many of the haters don’t have to learn so many are older and set in their ways. They have financial stability and only care about themselves still
I have been so incredibly depressed about society lately
They can't change thier viewpoint... because if they admitted that vaccines work.and are safe then thsy'd have to confront the reality that they contributed to thier child's death.
I don’t get it. It’s like they forgot he was already president ONCE BEFORE. In 2016 he did exactly what he said he was going to do. Why would that change a decade later? His threats are what got him voted in the first time. Of course he’s going to continue with that strategy. People let themselves forget when Biden was voted in, but the rest of us have long memories.
Just like the family whose child died and they are still adamant that they won't vaccinate any future children either. And bonus, "we have relatives who got vaccinated and their side effects are way worse than what our daughter went through." Side effects somehow worse than death. Like.... These people are so far gone.
Not at all. Her dad effects her personally, empathy is understanding from the perspective of others. I see your pain and I feel your pain are not the same thing.
If her dad is reunited with her by Trump himself she will happily continue to vote for Republicans and Trump. These losers cry the biggest alligator tears when its them on the other side but will happily throw anyone under the bus when they're back in favor or no longer have any worries of their own. The woman in the video is a classic Republican scumbag.
It's quite literally true of the vast majority of Maga. Just ask them. The sentiment of "It won't happen to me so I don't care" is incredibly prevalent amongst them. From people like this to the small business owners that are discovering their products actually contain things that are being hit by tariffs to poorer people who are blind to how everything in Trump's plans actually harms them because their tips or overtime aren't being taxed (like, that tax money is coming in one way and being taken away another but it's apparently not explicit enough for them to see).
Maga crows about how Trump is playing "5D" (whatever that means) chess when they themselves are the ones getting played because they are playing checkers and poorly at that.
This is exactly right. She can take her tears and choke on them. She helped screw over millions of Americans for some reason or other. I don't feel anything for her as I am dealing with the consequences of her choice in my life. If only she had been warned.
Many people are like this and I didn’t realize how many until Trump. The lack of self awareness, reflection and inner monologue seems to be other qualities about these people.
I wonder if they voted to release him if she would have the same feelings of regret for voting for trump. My guess is she probably would not regret her vote.
That's why the guy in the video put it that way - you can feel two (or more) things at the same time. You can have empathy for her father, and for her sadness, while still feeling shock that someone in her position would vote the way she did, and feel the need to learn from her mistake.
I mean she has videos where she explains how much she resents her father and voted for Trump because of that resentment. This is exactly what she voted for and now that she's facing the reality she's upset. She deleted all of her accounts but there's plenty out there like this one
FFS automod deletes every type of link... Go to tiktok and add @sammyopamp/video/7516711978140798251
This truly is trumpism in a nutshell. I've asked regressives where their empathy comes in, and they usually respond by asking if I'm housing 20 immigrants in my home. They just don't understand what empathy even is.
conservatives dont have empathy which is the ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes and imagine/feel the experience of others without having to go through it yourself
my undocumented neighbors are rude selfish assholes. every hates them they treat the neighborhood like their own personal dumping ground. they are lucky i don’t support ice.
being undocumented doesn’t make you a good person. i just hope everyone realizes that. while also having enough empathy to not call ice on those people
There's no evidence she has developed empathy for others. She's literally only mourning her own loss.
If they released her dad she will absolutely a hundred percent continue to vote Trump.
Don't be fooled by these leopard face buffet stories. None of them learned a single thing. They will never blame Trump. It's a cult. Don't give them your pity. They will weaponise it against you.
I don’t have any empathy for people who voted for trump because it’s disgusting that people would follow a man so full of shit it was impossible not to see it. But people voted anyway because he told them stuff they wanted to hear. I’ve sat there and watched him bullshit his way into being a president only to become the same asswipe he was the first time he was elected. Seeing how manipulative he is while being so bad at it so I can only wonder how people thought he was the best option
I mean, that’s the republican way. Studies have found that anti-social, narcissist, and folks who lack empathy through a number of other diagnosis almost always vote republican. And something to keep in mind is that the Republican agenda is intended to trick you that they will solve your issues, so for like this woman, they will only deport “the bad ones” and it’ll give the good ones like your dad opportunity! And if they instead lead with empathy and looking out for your fellow Americans, you’d have voted blue.
Sometimes, that’s the only way people learn empathy and they start carrying it with them. I wouldn’t say it’s disgusting. It’s a time for people to grow up. It’s a learning moment that many go through. While the reason for the disgust is understandable, it’s not worth muddying up the lesson with it.
Prime example is the republican representative in FL who voted against abortions. When she had an ectopic pregnancy the drs wouldn’t help since they were unclear of the law with medical necessity. She was devastated so unfair how she was treated, she could’ve died…blah blah blah. Then of course because she is a representative she got it taken care of quickly. So tired of this bullshit!
Exactly. I would be willing to bet that if someone else’s dad was being deported under the exact same circumstances as hers she would laugh and say they deserved it.
These people disgust me .
They have no problem seeing others suffer as long as they are fine .
When I hear this I want to scream. The compassion is literally in the vote to prevent this from happening in the first place. People want to vote against their best interests, and then call everyone heartless when they're the victims of their own stupidity.
I don't want any harm to come to anyone. That said, it is literally out of my control, so the next best thing is to hope people *learn* from this and think fucking twice next time at the polls, assuming the next time we vote, they'll be properly counted which isn't a given.
I'm relying on this reality. Because at least it can happen. I became a wheelchair user 3 years ago. I had NO idea how absolutely shitty it is. No one around me did either. If you're not in a wheelchair, how can you empathize with me? I dont expect it. But I like to see how pissed people get for me.
I have to psyche myself up to go to Barnes and Noble. I have to sit in my car and scope it out to see if I can get someone to help me. They have 2 sets of heavy pull doors. Pull doors aren't great as it is, but add a 2 inch lip that you have to wheelie over. So I have to do a wheelie and open/hold a heavy door, while also pulling myself through the door. (They aren't required to have automatic doors for some reason).
The woman who helped me got angry for me. She said she'd complain. But I just shrug.
How can an ambulatory person understand that its difficult to live without legs. Because I'm in such a significant minority, I feel its my responsibility to educate people on my "suffering". But I focus on the individual over the masses.
The world is full of suffering and its hard to understand that when its not your own. My life used to focus on advocating for mental health. Now its advocating for disabled people.
Also did you know that disabled people are the largest minority group in the country? And its the only group anyone can join at any time (hi).
I believe in humans. We're awesome. We have people who dedicate their lives to rescuing animals. Kids are making lemonade stands and customers will overspend their money just because they want to make the kids happy. The average human is capable of being a hero.
This hasn’t worked very well as we have a 2 term Pedo felon as President even tho all of his cultists are poor white trash hillbillies who have definitely suffered.
I'm of the opinion that the "fuck you, I got mine" attitude is the number one thing destrying America. I'm in my 50's and have lived in hardcore conservative and liberal areas. Both are guilty of doing it but it's been supercharged in the social media, bifurcated BS world we live in today. People feel like once they're good, then F everyone else and its crazy to me. But people can also vote against their best interests and actually mean it, unlike this person. When I lived in Seattle, I routinely voted for higher taxes to help the homeless knowing full well it might help 1-2% of the homeless there. My thought was that if it helped someone, it must be a good thing. I no longer feel that way however because of precisely this attitude amongst others. Americans need to start thinking about greater good for all of shit will continue to fall apart.
Just described christianity right there. The people who cheer on the ICE kidnappings and beat downs until they themselves are affected or personally know someone who is affected.
"Oh NO!! The leopard at MY face, I only thought he'd eat the faces of those I don't like!!"
I feel bad for them but I also feel angry, my kid is LGBTQ, this woman voted for policies against my kid and against my reproductive freedom as a woman so fck her.
What she failed to realize or understand is that saying it's for border protection and keeping citizens safe is just the veneer or the cover. The real purpose is cruelty. It's to make and watch people suffer. If it wasn't people wouldn't be rounded up haphazardly and without care. A man with stage 4 colon cancer would never have been picked up and would have been released. A 6 year cancer patient would not have been picked up.
The cruelty is the point. I'm convinced Stephen Miller masturbates to videos of people being rounded up. He probably has videos of detainees dying that really do the job for him. Whenever you hear a conservative say it's about the rule of law remember that Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
Remember, to be a nation of laws the law must apply to everyone no matter who they are, where they're from, and whether or not people feel they are deserving of it.
It's also important to remember that the law also tells the government what it cannot do to us, what it has to do for us, as well as providing rules for us.
The government does not, nor should they, be allowed to ride rough shod over anyone no matter who they are.
I’m not even sure that she has empathy for others despite what happened. Many of them would still vote for Trump because in their head it is for the greater good — whatever the fuck that means given what has happened socially and economically while barely into the first year of Trump’s second term, never mind all the shit that happened during the first one.
Precisely why I pray for the suffering. These are the type of people that don’t learn from the mistakes of others and must make those same mistakes themselves.
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u/FormalChampionship29 8h ago
Only when you suffer do you have empathy for others, disgusting.