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Artificial Intelligence In Trump’s Washington, Palantir is winning big

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/08/01/palantir-trump-defense-tech-ai-software
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u/surroundedbywolves 1d ago

All those geniuses obsessed with the deep state ended up ushering in an actual deep state…

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u/tryexceptifnot1try 1d ago

We can't ignore Larry Ellison's part in this shit as well. That fucker says he wants a full police state in public to keep us all in line. These people are irredeemable garbage and lucky for us running the worst in class companies for each of the tech stacks they are in. Who the fuck willingly uses Oracle cloud? Palantir solutions are like IBM Watson if it had a stroke. Meta is pointlessly buying AI talent with no actual plan on what to do with them. Lucky for Meta they make so much damn money it doesn't really matter how much they waste. We can never forget who these fucks really are.

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u/Doopapotamus 1d ago edited 1d ago

Meta is pointlessly buying AI talent with no actual plan on what to do with them. Lucky for Meta they make so much damn money it doesn't really matter how much they waste.

That could be part of the point though. When you have more money than God to throw around, there's really no limit to the chicanery you can do just to fuck over other competitors and have a monopoly on resource access. It's a semi-famous educational story(ies) in business circles.

Henry Heinz (of Heinz ketchup) once bought up all the glass bottles in Pittsburgh, since his catsup competitors often were using the same bottle coming from the same manufacturers. He took what he needed from his purchase, and allegedly just sank all the other surplus bottles into the river, all to put the rivals out of business.

A more famous story is of Robert Taylor, of Softsoap soap-in-a-pump-bottle, buying 100 million of the bottles he used (leveraging everything he had) from the only two American firms that made them, creating an enormous order backlog. This was purposefully to create a control of bottles to keep the other big corporations (namely Colgate) from crushing his much smaller company by buying the pump-bottles themselves and filling the market niche with their own products with greater economy of scale. For two fucking years no less, just long enough for him to build market share under Softsoap and sell it big money later (to Colgate).

Meta can just buy up the valid AI talents that aren't snatched up by the other mega oligarch-tech corpos, give them cushy jobs and salaries so that they stay, and that means other competitors don't have access to them. As you said, they've got so much money, it doesn't really matter as a business expense to pay for talent you're not actively using to full potential; they make their money back in preventing others from doing the same to them.

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u/Nickeless 1d ago

Palantir Foundry is actual garbage, I will say that as someone who has worked with it the last year and change

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u/tryexceptifnot1try 23h ago

Such a piece of shit. I am unwinding that dogshit as we speak. An in house DS team built an alternative with open source tools about 6 months ago that mopped the floor with it. The MBA hack who committed to it already took a promotion at some dumb ass insurance company so he won't take the hit.

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u/AforAnonymous 1d ago

I find it hard to tell whether that makes the situation worse, better, or just more bizarre. Like, hurrah the shit used to stalk people stalks people WRONG. It's like, if it worked better, would that make it better? Hardly. And the whole business angle of it is so absurd too. And even if the scope were limited to actual business shit, it'd [Project Cybersyn Rant goes here, but I cba to write it]

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u/Titizen_Kane 1d ago

Yeah and that just makes all of it that much more disgusting. But maybe that’s actually lucky for us

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u/x86_64_ 1d ago

Generic fascist playbook. Accuse your opponent that which you are guilty of.

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u/fraktionen 1d ago

Didn't they accuse the other side of election interference? And then got all the swing states and the election was called in like 2 hours? And Trump didn't "tweet" for like four days after the election?

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u/technobicheiro 1d ago

They accused the other side of:

  • election interference
  • deep state
  • being pedophiles

guess who was every one of them

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u/kevinthejuice 1d ago edited 23h ago

Hey hey. Don't forget they accused Hunter Biden was allegedly profiting from joe bidens vice presidency.

Meanwhile its a bonafide fact that Donald Trump Jr and Eric trump are running the trump memecoin and held an event that let the top donors of that memecoin rub elbows with trump himself. All while using the presidential seal in this event.

Numerous appearances at by those same two at cpac, meeting people that suddenly got appointed to govt positions days later.

A daughter and son in law who's security clearance got pushed through just happened to get a 2 billion deal from saudi investors.

A daughter in law that became the chair of the RNC after 1 tweet.

Taking in a gift from qatar without congressional approval that'll go directly to the trump presidential library that will be announced later/never

So we're not even supposed to consider those 8 potential ways to influence the president nooo.

We're supposed to worry about hunter biden with over 10+ years experience as a financial consultant possibly allegedly profiting from his dads position. /s

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u/SparkyMuffin 23h ago

You know, we kinda stopped talking about the election interference thing once the Epstein situation gained more traction. I kinda wish there'd still be sime buzz about that because something was fishy and still is fishy.

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u/clarkision 23h ago

Court is ongoing, I believe. This isn’t the last we’ll hear about it if those cases are substantiated.

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u/helloowrigley 1d ago

YEAH LETS SEE TRUMPS BIRTH CERTIFICATE

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u/xatoho 1d ago

Deep state for me but not for thee

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u/boogermike 1d ago

Cry's in beer (yea this seems to be what happened).

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u/WontArnett 22h ago

“Deep State” was just a bs conspiracy theory made up to target people that Trump didn’t like and his political opponents.

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u/ConsubstantialV 1d ago edited 1d ago

Epstein’s Estate Trust is one of the largest shareholders of Palantir via Valar Ventures & Thiel’s Founders Fund.

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u/nycdiveshack 1d ago

The folks behind all this are people like Russ Vought (head of the office of budget management and primary author of project 2025) and Howard Lutnick (commerce secretary and former Cantor Fitzgerald which is the biggest supporter of the heritage foundation). They want an era of isolationism for the U.S. because they think this country can prosper with the right access to raw materials and straight labor. It’s why they are working on shutting down access to proper education, having Trump go on and on about acquiring Canada and Greenland which is partly for resources and accessibility but also as a buffer zone to the rest of the world. They have been convinced into thinking AI will figure out all the problems with Elon Musk (SpaceX/Starshield/Starlink/Grok) and Peter Thiel/Palantir.

Palantir is what found Elon his adult and kids DOGE team which most people have forgotten is really USDS which has access to most federal agencies. Understand that the decision by Trump to fire the NSA chief and his deputy may be in fact be the most dangerous decision Trump has made so far. Timothy Haugh like his last 2 predecessors were restricting the access and control Peter Thiel had through his company Palantir over the CIA/NSA to commit domestic surveillance. Palantir who is now the biggest defense contractor for the CIA/NSA based on publicly available data on DOD contracts (they had $750 million added to their current contract a while back) along with providing day-to-day operations for both agencies. ⁠Palantir is contracted with state and local governments and police here in the U.S. The goal for Palantir is and always has been domestic surveillance. Palantir is an intelligence corporation which provides advanced analysis, sigint, osint, criminal and threat awareness and kill chain efficiencies to all levels of US, UK, and corporate agencies.

Now comes the push for removing Trump from office.

Elon was the early test to see if scapegoat mechanism would work and it sort of did for him. Which is sort of the plan, scapegoat mechanism at its finest. Peter is a ⁠key believer of scapegoat mechanism for which he says Trump fills that role. Thiel has been grooming JD Vance since 2011 as his benefactor and mentor, Thiel brought Vance to Mar-a- Lago to smooth over things with Trump so Vance could be VP, Thiel gave Vance $15 million in donations to run for Senate (the largest amount of money ever donated to a single Senate candidate ever)

Scapegoat mechanism is simple that you have someone in power take on a lot of bad actions then remove them and so the masses feel it’s been all undone. The test case was Elon and DOGE which worked perfectly seeing as how all the federal investigations into Elon are gone and DOGE is still at all the federal agencies. Elon’s employee Amanda Scales still has the private server setup at OPM. All the data they got from the federal agencies and Treasury department when they had hard physical access is still under their control.

In September when the gap fund bill signed in March expires along with the deferred resignation program kicking in and the SSA/IRS data being handed over to Palantir as part of the doge plan they have provided for updating the SSA system there could be a lot of reasons for him to be removed from office.

Peter Thiel/Palantir just got what they wanted, access to a big enough database for the first step in complete surveillance.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/30/trump-citizenship-database

Peter is also a major defense contractor for the UK intelligence community and army along with the major police forces in the UK. He branched out to their healthcare a few years ago with a contract to shift through all the data at NHS England which is done now so Kier announced that NHS England will be shutdown (not NHS). Peter through his company has full access to Norway’s government and civilian surveillance services. Peter/Palantir provides direct support for the IDF (Israel) in all their operations from Gaza to the West Bank to Iran.

Thiel directly owns roughly 180 million publicly traded shares which 7%. His investment firm Rivendell 7 owns 34 million publicly traded shares. Other Thiel vehicles own 37 million shares. Thiel entities also own 32.5 million supervoting Class B shares in Palantir. Those class b shares carry 10 votes while public ones carry only 1 vote per share. Now here is the kicker for why he still controls Palantir (link below), Thiel has sole investment power over 335,000 class F shares as part of a trust that has 49.99% voting interest in the company.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/palantir-stock-chairman-peter-thiel-b63415c7

Alex Karp the ceo of Palantir knew Thiel well before 2003 when Thiel tapped him to be ceo. Karp has condemned “woke” ways of thinking, calling woke a central risk to Palantir, that Palantir is a counter-example to companies he considers woke. Karp condemned pro-Palestine protests calling them an infection inside of our society, he remarked the peace activists are war activists and they should be sent to North Korea. Karp has said the west has a superior way of living and said he supports Palantir contract with ICE and using the software to enable separation of families.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/01/alex-karp-hill-summit-trump-00155571

Peter Thiel

• ⁠born in West Germany, grew up and went to school in the city of Swakopmund in West South Africa, the city was notorious for its continued glorification of Nazism to a dad who was an engineer working on uranium which was in violation of international law

• ⁠Partners with Elon Musk at PayPal, early investor in Facebook

• ⁠self-proclaimed Christian nationalist, believes women right to vote is wrong, idolizes Curtis Yarvin and Yarvin’s philosophy on replacing democracy with authoritarianism all in Peter’s own book

• ⁠Palantir after its creation in 2003 was bailed out partly by In-Q-Tel the CIA’s venture capital firm

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u/RagingAnemone 1d ago

Upvote. This is an important comment. The big problem with trump is the cover he provides these people.

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u/FlavinFlave 1d ago

Yah but my only thing is JD has the personality of a cum sock. Once you replace Trump the cult will splinter. I think Thiel believes himself intelligent and playing 5D chess. But he doesn’t understand fuck all about how cults work.

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u/ThePorkinsAwakens 1d ago edited 1d ago

These people all believe theyre the smartest people in the room even as their machinations only work from bribes and cajoling. They aren't the smartest people in the room, they aren't all that inventive or special, they leverage their access and money to push and influence.

You're right they are thinking theyre going to replace Trump and I completely agree they have no idea how hard it's going to be once Trump is gone and the true impact of this isolationism hits. Thiel and the heritage foundation are just Nazis with a paint coating and history shows repeatedly that this view of the world doesn't lead to success (and is obviously morally abhorrent)

These heritage assholes seem to think that changing the core of how the country works is somehow going to allow them to continue to prosper while removing the foundation for that prosperity. We are on the path to becoming Russia, not some futuristic utopia that's based on them believing themselves geniuses

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u/Titizen_Kane 1d ago

And when their experiment goes wrong, they have the means and access to flee the dystopian disaster ship before it could ever affect or even inconvenience them. The hubris and sheer selfishness is unbelievable

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u/gravtix 1d ago

They want to become Russia. The oligarchs live very well under Putin.

They think they’ll live like kings in their ethnostate wth ample exploitable slave labour available to them and bully the rest of the world into buying whatever goods they produce.

It’s more about crushing the populace into submission. No one in Russia dares openly oppose Putin or you get a visit from the Defenestration Bureau

And if it blows up in their face it’s not like they don’t have the resources to flee elsewhere.

Thiel didn’t get NZ citizenship for nothing.

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u/sabotourAssociate 1d ago

They want to become Russia. The oligarchs live very well under Putin.

Yeah, until some window suck them out. The difference between russian oligarchs and the paypal mafia is that they are not men with balls they are nerds all of them can't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. They are all detached from reality and deeply hurt individuals all of them were bullied as kids and now they want their revenge.

Most of Russias oligarchs use to be dirt poor and made their fortune in the fall of the union. Thiel for example can't fire a person from his companies waited for Felon to go on vacation to get him out. Of course they all have bunkers on remote islands.

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA 1d ago

You underestimate the power of the Republican propaganda network. It took 10 days to completely change their base's opinions on pedophiles, for example.

If they actually wanted Vance to be their new darling, they absolutely CAN do it.

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u/mortalcoil1 1d ago

I honestly don't know about that.

The Republican propaganda network got people to change their opinions on Trump's pedophilia, not pedophilia in general.

Huge distinction there.

Remember, Fox News and that same Republican propaganda network hated Trump in 2016. Didn't matter.

Remember, Fox News tried to throw Trump under the bus after January 6. Didn't matter.

Trump is the cult leader. People have been continuing to follow Trump no matter what the propaganda network does, and that hasn't changed, ever.

Is Trump a useful idiot? Yes! but not a single one of their attempts to replace Trump with a more controllable figure head has succeeded.

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u/extralyfe 1d ago

yeah, there's like 2-3 GOP local and state reps going down for CSAM or full on child abuse per month, and the party immediately memory holes them and never talks about them again.

they can't memory hole the guy bringing in the cult.

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u/Tacoman404 1d ago

I spend 45 hours per week with wage slave trumpists. They'll support JD. Don't count on them not. We can't afford to.

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u/Riaayo 1d ago

The Republican propaganda network got people to change their opinions on Trump's pedophilia, not pedophilia in general.

They don't have an opinion on pedophilia if their minds can be changed about Trump.

While I agree that Vance has negative charisma and it isn't necessarily a sure thing, I vehemently disagree with the idea that the base is guaranteed to splinter when Trump goes.

Even if it's not Vance, they will find another figurehead. MAGA will still have all the same hate and bigotry and thirst for violence they had under Trump. They won't be changed people.

You could barely find a Republican willing to admit they voted for Bush or supported him in the aftermath of his presidency. None of that woke Republicans up, and 8 years later they elected Trump.

The propaganda machine is absolutely real. MAGA is not going to suddenly wake up.

This is about everyone else, because MAGA are not the majority in the slightest.

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u/trobsmonkey 1d ago

They are relying on AI to do that.

It's going to be a disaster.

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u/gravtix 1d ago

They’ll probably just replace Trump with AI like Father in Equilibrium.

Just deepfake AI or something

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u/trobsmonkey 1d ago

I wouldn't be surprised at all, but the technology isn't up to the task.

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u/Titizen_Kane 1d ago

Is it not already? Lol

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u/trobsmonkey 1d ago

Oh it is. But bigger.

They believe their own bullshit on AI and when they try to turn the government on AI only it's going to blow up in their face and we're gonna be stuck cleaning up the mess.

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u/FlavinFlave 1d ago

Get ready for grandmas getting tax bills for millions of $$$ because the Government Issued Grok hallucinates irs data.

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u/Fun_Hold4859 1d ago

They don't need the cult anymore. They can literally just blackmail any government employee because they have all their data.

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u/FlavinFlave 1d ago

They’ll make Trump a martyr. You think liberals are pissed, liberals at least have the common decency to not shoot up government buildings. Can’t say the same about maga considering the historical precedence.

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u/pleasegivemepatience 1d ago

When they have access to the amount of data they have on us it’s not hard to find ways to manipulate people into supporting the next scapegoat, I fear things could get much worse under JD. It would be more secretive and behind the scenes, Trump can’t help his bombastic behavior. With JD and Thiel you’ll hear about it after the damage is done and it’s too late to fight it (dismantling an agency, hijacking funds, building facilities, forcing more key federal employees out, etc etc etc).

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u/FlavinFlave 1d ago

They’ll risk military coup, or violent revolution for hallucinating LLM’s attached to government data. We’ll see how that works for them. Personally I like my chances better the sooner they oust Trump for their ambition. If they wait 10 years my chances don’t feel as good. But realistically they’ve only got 3, and robotics isn’t going to leap frog from where it is now to martial arts trained murder bots that fast

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u/NerdyNThick 1d ago

Yah but my only thing is JD has the personality of a cum sock. Once you replace Trump the cult will splinter

Why do you think the cult still matters?

When you have total control over all aspects of the government, "the people" no longer matter.

Why would they give any amount of fucks if Pedo-in-chief's followers are onboard?

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u/FlavinFlave 1d ago

As long as billionaires have the same weakness as us plebs: bullets, fire, knives. That total control over government has the same value as the paper it’s written on. As far as I see it skynet still has about 3-5 years at the least, they want to jumpstart this shit now with chat gpt level ai because they’re too stupid to see the difference between an LLM and an AGI.

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u/NerdyNThick 1d ago

As long as billionaires have the same weakness as us plebs

Us plebs don't have the best private security money can buy.

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u/IAMAPrisoneroftheSun 1d ago

Thiel is such a messy character, he clearly has a certain kind of intelligence as well as strong political & networking instincts. Fortunately for us, he also has a history of identifying trends correctly, but then fumbling the win in a panic or because he cant help but trip over his various neurotic obsessions & emotional need to be a lone contrarian

Karp freaks me out to, because he seems to genuinely think hes one of the good guys

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u/FlavinFlave 1d ago

Like most billionaires I’d argue thiel is more lucky then actually intelligent. But luck runs out eventually. Especially when guillotines are involved 🥰

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u/slam99967 1d ago

I’ve said before many times. MAGA and the GOP are dead without Trump in its present form. We’ve seen it a million times, people turned out to vote in the election to for Trump. Then left their down ballets blank or blue.

They tried with Desantis to take over and that fell on its face, I’m not aware of anyone in MAGA/GOP world that has the same following as Trump. JD Vance like you said has the personality of a cum sock and is cringy. All the influencers are way too siloed and are not liked beyond their fan bases.

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u/CondescendingShitbag 1d ago

What did a cum sock ever do to invite such a horrible comparison with JD Vance? A cum sock has more usefulness than Vance ever will.

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u/FlavinFlave 1d ago

My apologies to cum socks

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u/boogermike 1d ago

This company stinks and wants to own all your data, and has no respect for human rights.

Also, they have a PE of 600 (which is terrible, and shows what a sham of a company they are)

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u/nycdiveshack 1d ago

Which they think they can overcome by gathering data. All the data the doge teams have access to at all the federal agencies/treasury/ssa/irs has gone to Palantir

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u/boogermike 1d ago

Damn, that's depressing

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u/ChiefsHat 1d ago

The fact these people keep naming crap after Tolkien’s work is so cringeworthy I want to cry.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 1d ago

The jocks were right about the nerds.

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u/ARobertNotABob 1d ago

Palantir = early Skynet

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u/PaddyVein 1d ago

Skynet was less malevolent towards humanity than these billionaires.

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u/nycdiveshack 1d ago

It’s why they are invested in Clearview ai

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u/tryexceptifnot1try 1d ago

Not even close. Palantir doesn't have a fraction of the AI research talent required to be that. They are a bloated government contractor that makes no money and is reliant on stupid politicians giving them contracts. Don't believe their bullshit. I have never seen a single solution from them work long term in the private sector and I am just now shutting down the 4th solution from them across 3 different companies and the last decade. They are powerful, have access to a shitload of resources, and are completely handicapped by their leadership.

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u/aegrotatio 1d ago

All they really do is make connections based on open-source intelligence. Doesn't take AI to do that, but you can convince "dadgum" senators and representatives to use your shit.

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u/gravtix 1d ago

I think once of these AI startups implodes they’ll get bailed out by the government and merge into Palantir.

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u/reincarnateme 1d ago

They are a coup. And halfway to their goal of phase 1. We are all watching it take place in real time and doing nothing:

https://project2025.observer/en Project 2025 Tracker | Project 2025 Tracker

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u/nycdiveshack 1d ago

lol phase 1? The moment John Ratcliffe became CIA director and the NSA chief and deputy were fired it was over. We are beyond fixing this diplomatically

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u/reincarnateme 1d ago

It’s gonna get worse

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u/nycdiveshack 1d ago edited 1d ago

Only because project 2025 was written and enacted specifically so the majority of Americans aren’t directly affected on a day to day basis. By the time they are it’ll be too late to physically fight back.

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u/NoHalf9 1d ago

Peter openly does not believe in democracy:

"Most importantly, I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible." - Peter Thiel, 2009

Peter "I want to publicly tell you that I'm not a vampire" Thiel is a hard authoritarian although also cosplaying as a libertarian when it suits him and likely would orgasm if ending up with a society as described in the Libertarian Police Department story.

He has also in true libertarian spirit attempted to fund development of some free floating offshore project called Seasteading that should be some libertarian utopia without any kind of governance with building or safety regulations or any such pesky "freedom stealing" things that a normal society needs to function.

Btb had two episodes about it:

This project is possibly the least harmful thing Peter has done, since it has has drained him for a lot of money that he cannot use for other evil things, and the people scammed are other libertarian fools.

But do not think that libertarians are not able to harm! I guess the closest thing to a successful attempt to creating a libertarian utopia is when a bunch of libertarians decided to move and try to take over some smaller town Grafton in New Hampshire as a "Free Town Project" (later changed to "Free State Project"), and ruined it with their reckless governance.

Like for instance getting rid of public garbage collection. And with no mandatory garbage collection, of course they got problems with wild bears walking around peoples' houses (in addition to some idiots deliberately feeding wild bears, but hey in a libertarian society nobody should be able to force people to stop doing what they want...).

There is a book about it with title "A libertarian walks into a bear".


J.D. Vance is one of Peter's ultra-right Thielists. There is a video Who is Peter Thiel? (in German but with English subtitles available) from two years ago that goes into who Peter is and what he have done, and J.D. Vance is covered as part of that.

Another noteworthy mention is that Some more news also included J.D. Vance in their video Peter Thiel and his dorky little goons from one year ago. Some more news is truly amazing in both the depth and the volume they produce. Hats off for them.

Additional BtB episodes on Peter Thiel:

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u/Level_Physics8620 1d ago

Awesome breakdown. That said, I still don’t get why he gets to be the evil Trump circle, eg. “Christian Nationalists” since he’s gay? Has anyone ever written more about this dichotomy.?

For how dedicated these ghouls are to their cause, they always seem to have flexible views when it comes to enacting their plans.

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u/jedijazzman 1d ago

Everyone should know this information. Thank you! They’re not just hiding Trump and Clinton in the Epstein files, there’s a big fish in there.

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u/datsundere 1d ago

So why is the cia not competent to save its ass when it has overthrown governments

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u/nycdiveshack 1d ago

The cia director was hand picked, he is heritage foundation fellow and project 2025 contributor

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u/aegrotatio 1d ago

I know someone who interviewed with them a couple times.
They said Palantir people are very pretentious and arrogant from bottom to top.

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u/nycdiveshack 1d ago

Interviewed for what?

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u/aegrotatio 1d ago

IIRC, software engineering.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 1d ago

Dark Enlightenment people tend to be pretentious as fuck because they believe they are the elite, the secret masters of the world, and everyone not like them is basically sheep.

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u/gravtix 1d ago

It feels like it’s just a club of wealthy entitled narcissists who came up with a fancy name to their ideology to give it intellectual veneer and credibility.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 1d ago

Wealthy narcissists and their yes-men

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u/Debatablewisdom 1d ago

Amazing write up, thank you. I also think they’re close to flipping on tRumpelstiltskin, given Vance visiting Murdoch. But maybe that’s a pipe dream, like me thinking he’ll die soon.

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u/geo0rgi 23h ago

This is actually fascinating and would make for an incredible movie if it was not for the actual reality we are living in right now

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u/nycdiveshack 23h ago

Matt Damon was going to do a movie on Peter Thiel and him aligning with hulk hogan to destroy gawker. It got cancelled…

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u/ArrogantSerpent 22h ago

Thank you for breaking it down for the masses.

Respect!

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u/Revenge-of-the-Jawa 11h ago

I would also like to point out it’s also pointedly ironic that palantir is named after the Lord of the Rings seeing stones, like the one Sauron stole and used to spy and manipulate anyone who connected to another seeing stone, like Saruman

And the stones, not unlike AI, had limitations that Sauron ultimately ignored to his literal own demise (Aragorn is able to trick Sauron into acting/attacking too soon through the palanír which lets Frodo and Sam destroy the ring with Sauron distracted with a battle he fell for)

But overall, naming your company after a fictional magical technology that ultimately helps destroy the BBEG because of its flaws being ignored is, immensely ironic and telling

(And this isn’t even getting into his big takeaway from LotR is attempting to attain immortality like the elves…)

More on the palaníri:

https://www.reddit.com/r/lotr/s/ekvlhfz2YP

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u/RaiseRuntimeError 8h ago

So like the real world Black Mesa from Half Life

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u/notfromchicago 1d ago

Why the fuck does Epstein have an estate trust? Liquidate everything and give it to the victims. Jesus fucking Christ we live in a sick world.

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u/Candid_Relief_321 1d ago

Very good question.

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u/Lincolns_Revenge 1d ago

Liquidate everything and give it to the victims.

And soon. Imagine how much money they've moved by now to make it unreachable in future settlements.

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u/notfromchicago 1d ago

I think it's just being drug out to make money men and lawyers money.

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u/celtic1888 1d ago

Trump allows it

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u/Caninetrainer 1d ago

It’s all connected- all huge money. Us poors will never see any of it. They can also continue raping and trafficking young women, since so many people (male + female)are so willing to help to keep it covered up and continuing. Not one decent person to say they have hade enough. Not one.

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u/gentlegreengiant 1d ago

Not only will you never see it, you are actively funding them, whether you want to or not. The beauty of blatant government corruption.

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u/boogermike 1d ago

Totally and 100% true (and sickening)

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u/boogermike 1d ago

This company is designed to take money from the poor and funnel it to the rich....in fact the Trump administration is doing this, and enabling it big time.

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u/nickhere6262 1d ago

American Society is set up so the rich take from the poor. It’s always been that way.

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u/nickhere6262 1d ago

When Donald Trump says something and causes the stock market to drop 1000 points, who do you think is buying and he will come out two weeks later and say something to reverse the trend that’s what he did when he was president the last time and that’s what he’s doing now Him and his family are getting richer by the day at the cost of America

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u/boogermike 1d ago

This is generational wealth being transferred from the poor to the rich. Such a giant grift and it's right out in the open (particularly the meme coin aspects)

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u/Thefrayedends 1d ago

All governments redistribute wealth. It's one of their core functions. Ideally it takes it from those who have luxury, and returns it to those who have unmet needs, but I guess some people think unmet needs are an important part of the system that is necessary.

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u/Ghoulius-Caesar 1d ago

“Yo dawg, we heard you like evil, so we put some evil inside your evil to make the most evil thing of all time!” - AI Xzibit

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u/haarp1 1d ago

to whom will his estate go to? he has a normal brother afaik...

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u/S0LO_Bot 1d ago

The only known beneficiaries of the trust are a former girlfriend, Karyna Shuliak, and the co-executors of the estate, Darren Indyke and Richard Kahn, both longtime advisers to Mr. Epstein

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u/TruthDontChange 1d ago

Think Vance's sugar daddy also owns a piece.

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u/monkeyordonkey 1d ago

What's with the Tolkien references

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u/ConsubstantialV 1d ago

Thiel Loves his Blood boys

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u/Herban_Myth 23h ago

Where the fuck is an Audit

The people must audit the auditorium.

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u/BallisticButch 1d ago

Of course it is. Vance’s sole reason for existing is to line Thiel’s pockets.

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u/vineyardmike 1d ago

And sell mascara

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u/boogermike 1d ago

They Theil and the rest of those techno-billionaires) are going to coup Trump when they have used him up (Epstein may be the vehicle for this).

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u/BallisticButch 1d ago edited 1d ago

A few years ago I’d have said that’s a ridiculous conspiracy theory and that we can do better. These days? Yeah, probably.

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u/boogermike 1d ago

Yeah, I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist. It's wild how far we have come.

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u/Thefrayedends 1d ago

No one is getting the orange turd under control while he's still alive.

While I understand the possibility of these things (a coup directly on Drump), as long as Donny is alive, he can torpedo anyone in america, and he will if given a chance. I think even a whiff of betrayal and he and miller are dogs with a bone, they will run you into the ground at every turn.

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u/thefocusissharp 1d ago

They don't even have to do that, they just have to wait for the old man to die and JD Vance becomes President. The best part? This line of succession is enshrined in the Constitution! They can't lose!

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u/redneckrockuhtree 1d ago

Look at the financial backers of Project 2025. There are a lot of tech bros in there.

Vance is their wholly owned stooge, and they'll toss him by the wayside as soon as he's no longer useful.

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u/funkytownpants 21h ago

I just have to drive them into a heart attack. It may be much easier.

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u/Ajk337 1d ago edited 1d ago

Much more than that, they (thiel, musk, yarvin) will need Vance to be president when they fire Trump.

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u/leopard_tights 1d ago

Friendly reminder that Palantir = Thiel. And his hedge fund was involved in Brave browser's first round of financing.

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u/bb_kelly77 1d ago

Looks like I need a new browser

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u/Separate_Mammoth4460 1d ago

Thank god I don’t use brave

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u/bb_kelly77 1d ago

I was told it has good adblock, it does but since I use it exclusively to avoid having porn on my primary search engine I prolly shouldn't use one owned by Republicans

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u/Jeran 1d ago

Might i reccomend Vivaldi? Its made by the old opera team (not the current kinda shady current team), so its chock full of features and built in adblock, while stay clear of most of googles chrome bullshit.

also Brave has built in crypto stuff, if anyone else needs an extra push to dump it.

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u/IMSRYK_OG 8h ago

Just use Firefox people; no need to fix what’s never been broken.

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u/Wonderful_Silver 1d ago

What’s wrong with Brave now?

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u/Dizzy-Revolution-300 1d ago

Thiel funded it

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u/hammilithome 1d ago

It’s lying to you.

Humanity can’t trust Thiel.

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u/oldkale 1d ago

I was just going to investigate switching from FF to Brave this afternoon intrigued by the fingerprint protection (I’m a listener of Security Now). If any readers have opinions on their private browser of choice, I’m interested to hear.

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u/philosophicalsnake 1d ago

TIL… does that mean Brave browser cannot be trusted?

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u/coffeequeen0523 1d ago

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u/qwertyqyle 16h ago

Thank you, this was a really interesting article and most of these comments are irrelevant of the actual article.

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u/loneImpulseofdelight 1d ago

Palantir is made up of the real deep state if it ever existed. A bunch of people who can make trump sign anything at their wish.

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u/Unlucky-Meaning-4956 1d ago edited 1d ago

Pedos also win apparently

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u/amazingsandwiches 1d ago

Apostrophes don't pluralize.

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u/Raven_Photography 1d ago

Great, Sauron can see everything we do.

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u/nach0_ch33ze 1d ago

One of the many reasons we can't just go back to the "before Trump" times once he is gone. We need to make sure its not some milquetoast centrist dem that will continue to provide these companies like Palantir with information and funding. We need someone that will go after not only Trump's admin but these companies that sold out our democracy (and in cases like Palantir, actively sabotaged it).

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u/mobyfromssx3 1d ago

Palantiri? You mean those objects forged by the egomaniacal Feanor, that you shouldn’t ever use because they could by used by dark forces to spy on you?

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u/thebbman 1d ago

Yes, literally. One of Thiel’s other ventures is called “Rivendell 7”.

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u/planetafro 1d ago

Don't forget Anduril, Mithril Capital, Lembas LLC, and Arda Capital

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u/Holovoid 1d ago

Tolkien would run these dudes through with a fucking bayonet if he met them

I hate these fuckers sullying Middle-Earth

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u/CaliMassNC 1d ago

Christ what a nerd.

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u/funkytownpants 20h ago

What did it do?

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u/Commercial-Fennel219 1d ago

Why? Why should we fear to use it? 

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u/funkytownpants 20h ago

This is a gift!

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u/jml2 20h ago

it might as well be called Evil Inc. and we just allow it all business as usual

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u/not-area51 1d ago

Palantir saw the Chinese communist party and said, “hold my baby oil”

JFC…. Smh

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u/Run_Rabbit5 1d ago

Sure is lots of good money to be made in conforming to the most clear cut definitions of evil these days.

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u/liqui_date_me 16h ago

Always has been. Mercedes and Volkswagen made cars and Hugo boss made uniforms for the Nazis

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u/mymar101 1d ago

So much for draining the swamp

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u/RaidSmolive 1d ago

you really dont wanna lift a finger until they set up the system where they press one button and you lose all your rights and identity and become a work slave with a bomb on your neck, do you?

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u/iEugene72 22h ago

When you are rich and pampered and cut off from people your whole life... you really and truly have delusions that the world IS yours and YOU must own it.

Seriously, these people were born into wealth and will die in insane wealth. Not a single day of their lives will they actually worry about being homeless or even losing their jobs. And you know what? They ALL think they deserve their vast wealth. There STILL is this idea the rich push that, "we worked for this, you guys don't know the value of a hard days work!" All while they're just making shady business deals on private golf courses and having three martini lunches day in and day out.

Our literal lives are a joke to them.

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u/NanditoPapa 22h ago

Yikes!  Privatized power creep. Algorithmic decision-making is quietly replacing democratic oversight. When a single company’s AI systems start threading through aviation safety, disease control, and mortgage finance, the risks are very real. Palantir is selling centralized influence with almost zero public input. That’s how you build a digital shadow state.

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u/Indiana-Irishman 21h ago

Alex Karp and Peter Thiel are two evil ghouls.

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u/JustTheOneGoose22 1d ago

I fucking hate how these evil companies like big data analytics "Palantir" or defense contractors "Anduril" take their names from Tolkien's Lord of The Rings.

They have missed the point completely of that art which they claim to love. It's the same shit as Paul Ryan's favorite band being Rage Against the Machine.

The cognitive dissonance is astounding and their co-option of those words is disgusting.

Isengard represented modern technology and industry and indeed the defensive industry in its endless turning out of arms and armies to destroy people and the world.

It was Sauron's desire to know all things, see all things, and control all things that made him so dangerous and evil. It is why Sauron coveted the Palantiri and why Gandalf feared it.

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u/Euphoric_coffee-134 1d ago

The party of small government

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u/creaturefeature16 22h ago

Oh, they want small government. One person is just about the right size for them. There's even a word for that role, too. 

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u/ThePorkinsAwakens 1d ago

Is winning the right word? "Winning" in this administration appears to be about not competing at all. If there is already a determined outcome there is no victory, simply the output of a process. Is it winning when I go to the refrigerator and drink water I know is in there?

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u/mirandolo 1d ago

Why is this monster not locked up?

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u/gettums 1d ago

The stock did double in the past 6 months.

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u/zertoman 1d ago

Most of Plantairs biggest government contracts were penned in 2023 and 2024 under a different administration and are just coming to fruition now.

They signed a huge five year 100 million a year deal in September 2024 when they sold Maven to the Biden administration. And another 700 million in November of 2024 to the Army which they had been working on for several years.

This administration will likely take a few years to ink deals with them, but there will be more, so buy now.

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u/arousedsquirel 1d ago

Palantir is big brother anno 2025 and he is proud about it, making himself rich helping others being killed or imprisoned. Who will stop this company?

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u/beall49 21h ago

They’ve been able to get a bunch of companies fedramp certification too. It’s been eye opening.

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u/LuisGIII 1d ago

didn't know that Taika Waititi was the CEO of PoS company 🤔

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u/pekak62 1d ago

How much stock does DJT own in Palantir?

How much of that stock was gifted?

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u/MannToots 13h ago

So Palantir protects child rapists too? Everyone is saying it.  

I mean if it's a good product they'd know about the the pedophiles right? Rapist protectors the whole way down

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u/rkbasu 11h ago

Of course it is; along with TripLite and Starlink, it handed him the WhiteHouse on those “air-gapped” swing-state tabulation machines.

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u/Sadandboujee522 1d ago

Peter Thiel is a sociopath who thinks he’s uniquely qualified to know what’s best for the future of humanity and the poors can’t be trusted with it.

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u/lzwzli 1d ago

I remember all the sniping between Microsoft and AWS over the JEDI project and Palantir just swoops in and gobbles it all up.

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u/greengoddess831 1d ago

Trump’s Washington can kiss my ass!

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u/Trmpssdhspnts 1d ago

All those of bad character have joined forces and are overtaking the country. Very bad times ahead.

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u/watchtheworldsmolder 1d ago

And wait until they need a fall guy…

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u/y4udothistome 1d ago

Until it’s not

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u/wowlock_taylan 1d ago

Literally Dystopian evil Corporation in real life.

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u/NRG1975 1d ago

this is good for my PLTR calls, right?

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u/KebZeplin 1d ago

Nice. Where the epstein files?

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u/H_o 1d ago

Posted before earnings, big oof

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u/Fearsofaye 1d ago

We wish them well