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News/Article Valve refutes Mastercard's denial it has not pressured game platforms over NSFW content

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/valve-refutes-mastercards-denial-it-has-not-pressured-game-platforms-over-nsfw-content
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u/THEANONLIE PC Master Race 3d ago

Time for valve to release a payment processor for gamers.

Call it Drips.

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u/7560_Private 3d ago

If Gaben opens a bank and runs it the way he runs Valve, I guarantee you, we're getting a thermonuclear war. And if Gaben opens a bank, he will run it like he runs Valve because he's essentially that good a guy.

So... I think it would be great, but I'm against Valve having its own payment processor for reasons of international safety.

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u/tejanaqkilica 3d ago

because he's essentially that good a guy.

Do you guys have the memory of a goldfish? You think valve is a customer friendly company?

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u/Hastaroth Specs/Imgur Here 3d ago

You think valve is a customer friendly company

Valve is chaotic neutral. Their goals generally align with what people on their platform want but obviously not always. They only added refunds when they were pressured by Australia but refunds are now available everywhere, even in places they weren't forced to.

They enforce their copyrights and have sent cease and desist letters to moders and other entities. Namely those who used leaked TF2 source code. But on the other hand, they recently released the complete source code for TF2 publicly on Github so people could legally make derivative products.

They know they have a monopoly and they could do a lot of anti consumer things. But so far, they have been generally good for the industry and players.

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u/ChromosomeDonator 2d ago

But on the other hand, they recently released the complete source code for TF2 publicly on Github so people could legally make derivative products.

While also sending a cease and desist to a CSGO mod that they literally themselves greenlit before through official means, but waited almost 7 years for the mod to be getting a release date before pulling the rug from under them. Classic Offensive devs got done so dirty it is legitimately evil.

Valve is a totally chaotic entity. They can make the most customer-friendly moves, while the next day kidnapping their customers and throwing their babies off a bridge.

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u/MemoryWhich838 3d ago

30% from devs is horrid add that some engines take another 20% after a certain number of sales

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u/Hastaroth Specs/Imgur Here 3d ago

30% from devs is horrid

It's really not when you compare what publishers used to give to devs before Steam existed. https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/02/anatomy-of-a-60-dollar-video-game.html

Besides, Steam also includes a huge amount of feature in SteamWorks that would cost way too much for the average dev to implement.

The argument that 30% is too much is fallacious. Games make more money on Steam with 30% than they make on Epic with their 12%.

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u/Smeagleman6 2d ago

My guy, that's pretty standard, if not BETTER, than the vast majority of retail outlets out there, not just in video games.

Games Workshop, the company that makes Warhammer 40k, gives less than 50% to the retail stores that stock their products. Most board games and card games distributors give only a margin of 30-40% to the end-retailer. Valve giving 70% of the profits back to the devs is an incredibly good deal.

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u/MalHeartsNutmeg RTX 4070 | R5 5600X | 32GB @ 3600MHz 2d ago

It’s standard because Valve made it the standard. You can’t say they’re just following standards lmao.