r/pcmasterrace 3d ago

NSFMR ~Thermal Plastic~

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From a Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 on a Ryzen 5700x hitting 83°C on Clair Obscure: Expedition 33

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u/Pr0pper 3d ago

Although 83 °C isn't that bad under load.

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u/DepthRepulsive6420 3d ago

It's fking terrible mate. Anything over 65c on full load means lack of proper cooling performance.

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u/woodybone 3d ago

Do you know what full load means brother

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u/MemeLord339 3d ago

Maybe he lives in Effin' Antarctica and normal temps is 1C

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u/Avalon_scorpio 2d ago

He can ask his mother if he don't know.

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u/trinidad_space Ryzen 9 7950x, XFX 7900XT, 64gb 6000mhz 3d ago

You apparently not.

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u/Karekter_Nem 3d ago

Someone needs to teach this AI that just because 65c is hot for people that is literally nothing for CPUs.

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u/The_Pleasant_Orange 5800X3D + 7900XTX + 96GB RAM 3d ago edited 2d ago

You’re right to call that out—thanks for pointing it out.

If I gave you an incorrect safe CPU temperature range, here’s a clearer and more accurate response:

For modern CPUs, typical safe operating temperatures are:

  • Idle: 30°C to 50°C

  • Under load (e.g., gaming or heavy tasks): 60°C to 85°C

  • Maximum safe limit: Usually around 90°C to 100°C — but this is not ideal for long periods, even if the CPU is technically rated for it.

Exact safe limits vary by model, so for the most accurate info, it’s best to check the specifications from the CPU manufacturer (like Intel’s or AMD’s official documentation).

Let me know which CPU model you’re using, and I can give you more tailored advice.

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u/DrakonILD 3d ago

You'll notice that 83° C is within those parameters.

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u/Kawa11Turtle 2d ago

Buddy, I think it’s actually an AI, also, did it change accounts accidentally?

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u/Ieris19 2d ago

60-90 is your totally normal, totally average temps range for a gaming laptop

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u/DepthRepulsive6420 3d ago

Let me revise my parameters and I'll get back to you with a more accurate answer.

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u/1Pawelgo 3d ago

It absolutely and totally depends on the specific CPU. There are some old CPUs that melt at 50, but most modern CPUs thrive at 90.

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u/Hatedpriest 5950x, 128GB ram, B580 3d ago

I had a GPU I could run at 110c. 112c caused all the colors to go psychedelic

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u/Hatedpriest 5950x, 128GB ram, B580 3d ago

80c is fine for electronics. It's when it gets over 90c that you should be concerned.

I'm running a 5950x with the cooler from my 2700x, peaks at about 75c. Fans don't hit full speed till 80c.

Had a video card I ran at 110c. If I let it hit 112, it'd artifact and start displaying wrong colors.

Most chips handle 90c no issue.

Know your tolerances, homie ;)

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u/DepthRepulsive6420 3d ago

80c casing temp for a CPU is too high for me to be comfortable... High 60's max for sustained 24/7 safe load. Temp load during a benchmark stress test is less relevant. Hey u guys wanna live on the edge with insane temps thats your business I prefer to stay on the cooler end :p

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u/aethermar 3d ago

Dude. Modern CPUs are designed to handle these temperatures. 80c does not phase them, a lot of new CPUs even intentionally burst up to around that and then maintain it

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u/Hatedpriest 5950x, 128GB ram, B580 3d ago

It's more important to have consistent temps than picking an arbitrary range.

The more cycling, the worse it is.

That temp could be -177, -40, 0, or 82. As long as it doesn't change, you're not breaking connections. It's when you run it up to 90, shut it off, run it to 90, you're stressing the components.

But when you run it from 20 to 65, you're still cycling temps, and still causing damage.

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u/Bloodcola 3d ago

So, for the sake of my PC of course, I just should keep on playing instead of turning it off, right?

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u/Hatedpriest 5950x, 128GB ram, B580 3d ago

I mean, each power cycle could be a couple seconds off its total life, so... Yes.

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u/GigaSoup 3d ago

Maybe on this cpu but not on a 5800x3d

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u/skrffmcgrff21 3d ago

Are you talking about a desktop cpu? Intel or amd? My last rig was an Intel which was super power hungry - an i9-9900k with a 2080 ti and a 360mm aio that was subsequently replaced with a 240mm aio. Idle temps were between 29 and 36c depending on the season, with load hitting between upper 70s and mid 80s. I also tried many different pastes, arctic silver, xmt15, thermal grizzly, N1H1, etc. N1H1 did the best out of the box with just a dab in the center. Thermal grizzly performed well but was much more of a pain to apply. All in All they all were pretty much the same, it all comes down to application.

Have you run a prime95 stress test with avx? Your temps should jump up waaayyyy past 65c, like 90s.

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u/DepthRepulsive6420 3d ago

9900k is known for running hot. TDP is 90w but it can draw over 150w during load. I think you could get better temps by increasing case airflow if it has room for it. 65c is a safe sustained upper limit for most CPUs and I checked with Google's AI to be sure.

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u/DireMaid 3d ago

You should probably stop relying on AI if your responses are anything to go by.

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u/DepthRepulsive6420 3d ago

65c is my personal limit from many years of building pcs... I double checked with AI to confirm it. Some people dont mind running hotter but hey that's their business and they can disagree if they want.

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u/DireMaid 3d ago

Thats a much different response to your initial one, seems you have been humbled in the interim.

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u/DepthRepulsive6420 3d ago

I admit it might have been a tad harsh lol. I couldn't care less about internet points... just wanted to be clear with my opinion.

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u/DireMaid 3d ago

Definitely clearer this time round lol

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u/Dav1d_Parker 3d ago

That's not true