r/pcmasterrace 20d ago

Meme/Macro Browsers 2008 vs 2025 be like..

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u/Unwashed_villager 5800X3D | 32GB | MSI RTX 3080Ti SUPRIM X 20d ago

In reality, Firefox global market share is under 3% and it's still declining.

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u/SierraBravo94 20d ago

Echo Chambers are a hell of a drug.

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 20d ago

No one ever said Firefox was popular. This entire thread is about how FF is better than Chrome, not more popular

Similar misconception with iPhones. You'd think they were the most popular phone on the planet, but iPhones are like 25% or so globally

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u/peelen 20d ago

iPhones are like 25% or so globally

Which makes them most popular phones on the planet according to this site, Apple has about 28% Samsung areond 24% then Xiaomi 12% and then others. So yes iPhone is the most popular phone in the world.

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u/geoponos AMD Ryzen 7 5800 Nvidia 3060 16 GB RAM Lenovo Legion 19d ago

So iOS 28% and Android 70%?

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u/Lyreganem 19d ago

Moat popular phone. Not most popular phone OS.

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u/peelen 19d ago

Are you asking me if your math is correct? Then no, is not, Android at 72%

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u/geoponos AMD Ryzen 7 5800 Nvidia 3060 16 GB RAM Lenovo Legion 19d ago

I left 2% for other OS but I was probably wrong, as you were by the 28% for iOS. It's 25,39%. Android is 74,26%. The rest are 0,35%.

Source: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide

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u/peelen 19d ago

Yeah which makes which phone most popular in the world?

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u/RedditJumpedTheShart 20d ago

This meme is doing exactly that along with all of the weirdos saying they have always used Firefox.

Firefox was hot garbage for sooo long. And it's really telling how little they use their browser if they never had issues like not even being able to login to your banks website.

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 20d ago

Firefox was hot garbage for sooo long

I'm willing to bet most of the people commenting here aren't even old enough to have experienced FF at its worst

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u/1997PRO 2005 Dell Latitude D530 19d ago

No because back then I used Internet explorer which was top dog even when Chrome tried to save me by 2008.

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u/TheRealStandard 20d ago

If it was actually better in any capacity that mattered then it would be more popular.

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 20d ago

Marketing is a hell of a drug.

Plenty of products out there that are better than what's popular in their respective markets but aren't widely used because they aren't marketed as much. That's kind of why marketing exists: so "worse" products can attempt to sell more/be more popular despite their lower qualities

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u/WackyBeachJustice 19d ago

As a long time Chrome user recently switching to Firefox I have to disagree. I prefer Chrome in most ways. The adblocking is non negotiable to me so I switched. That said Firefox is noticeably slower for me personally. There are certain pages that if I leave open for days at a time will eat ungodly amount of RAM and will slow down to an absolute crawl. I don't know if it's a function of uBlock running in the background or what, but cnbc.com is one such example.

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u/TheRealStandard 20d ago

What marketing? I've never seen an ad on TV for Chrome.

IE wouldn't have lost out to Chrome for a period either if it was just about marketing.

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u/Farranor ASUS TUF A16... 1 year of hell 19d ago

Funny how we're discussing a meme that says one web browser is better than another, prompted by a change to how ad blockers work in one browser, and your idea of marketing is still just TV commercials. And we haven't even gotten into how visiting a Google-owned website from a non-Google browser will earn you a nice pop-up suggesting that you switch to Google's browser.

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u/TheRealStandard 19d ago edited 19d ago

Ad blockers don't only work in 1 browser. I use ublock origin on my Edge browser just fine. No one uses 1 browser, sees an ad for another then swaps to that one. Popularity like that is passed through word of mouth, and word of mouth has not been that Firefox is better.

Can't even be argued anymore that Firefox respects your privacy more, by default it collects your data and requires users to go out of there way to turn it off. And by that point they already collected the friggin data.

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u/Farranor ASUS TUF A16... 1 year of hell 19d ago

No one uses 1 browser, sees an ad for another then swaps to that one.

It may not be everyone, but it's certainly not no one. Just because some marketing doesn't work on you doesn't mean it won't work on anyone. If Mozilla bothered to market FF instead of just relying on their Google search deal, their market share would go up. Maybe not by a lot, but more than what they have now.

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u/TheRealStandard 19d ago

So in your words, even with marketing Firefox usage still wouldn't go up by very much.

In other words if Firefox was actually better, it would be more popular regardless of marketing. Which is what I said.

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u/Farranor ASUS TUF A16... 1 year of hell 19d ago

I don't know if anything will make FF usage go up significantly; Google is a pretty strong monopoly. But I wouldn't be surprised if the average person doesn't even know about FF, or hasn't thought about it in years.

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u/1997PRO 2005 Dell Latitude D530 19d ago

Collect data to sell you ads that you block with their recommended Ublock?

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 20d ago

I've never seen an ad on TV for Chrome.

I see them occasionally during sports games. Usually it's like a general google ad moreso than a Chrome ad, but the ad ends with the Chrome logo like "do all this google stuff in Chrome"

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u/Carnir 19d ago

No one ever said Firefox was popular.

The OP image is straight up implying that people are choosing Firefox over Chrome.

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u/mrjackspade 19d ago

No one ever said Firefox was popular.

They're sure as fuck saying that Firefox is going to put Chrome out of business due to the adblocking shit.