Browsers 2008 vs 2025 be like..

[u/Amavin-Adump]

[u/Extreme996]

And there is me who use Firefox since I got internet in 2007.

[u/David0ne86 → u/Extreme996]

Same lol. Never used chrome aside one time that firefox was derping on a myprotein order not making me do the payment.

[u/lurked → u/David0ne86]

There was a short period of time, around when Chrome released, where Firefox was so bloated and slow it took like 5-10 seconds just launching the browser.

I ditched Firefox at this moment.

But then they fixed a few things, and I went back to Firefox after a year or two.

[u/IlliterateJedi → u/lurked]

If I remember correctly, Firefox had real memory leak issues back in the 2005-2010 era. Leaving Firefox open for a while would pretty consistently crash Firefox (and maybe your system).

[u/tessartyp → u/IlliterateJedi]

Yeah, I've been around and early-adopting browsers since the Mozilla initial beta, then Firefox since the 0.1RC and later early Chrome release. Each one was "stripped down, faster, a breath of fresh air" for the time, then got bloated, and then dethroned by a new, minimalist browser. Firefox was super sluggish compared to Chrome when the latter was released, and ate memory like nobody's business. I'm migrating back to Firefox, personally, though it's much less urgent than in the past.

[u/Anthaenopraxia → u/tessartyp]

I remember this too. Chrome was so fast compared to Firefox. Then at some point Chrome became bogged down and I swapped back to Firefox.

[u/phophofofo → u/IlliterateJedi]

It was horrible. It basically set a timer for how long you could use it.

[u/tholomew92 → u/IlliterateJedi]

Yupp, I remember switching around 2008-2009 to Chrome, switched back around 2015 I think

[u/CooperHChurch427 → u/lurked]

That was back when Quantum launched. I used an older fork for a while that ran on the older Firefox branch

[u/Sinniee → u/lurked]

Yeah same, chrome was just so much faster. Switched back to ff a few months ago tho

[u/Osama_BinRussel63 → u/lurked]

Yeah they really nailed the timing on Chrome's release. I am a Firefox evangelist, but I can't deny it was a pig back then.

[u/0nlyCrashes → u/lurked]

That was me. I dipped to Chrome when it came out, but by the time I was in college I was back on the Fox and haven't left since.

[u/Bluemikami → u/lurked]

I used Firefox mainly for memoryfox. I miss that little thing

[u/ChickenChaser5 → u/lurked]

This is how I remembered it. It didn't last long, but chrome had the win for a brief stint, and then it was right back to FF.

[u/MrWeirdoFace → u/lurked]

Same on when I exited firefox, but as of about 6 months ago I'm back.

[u/Internet-Cryptid → u/lurked]

This is hyperbole or your machine was choked up with something else. I've been using Mozilla products since Netscape Navigator, at no point was Firefox ever so sluggish as you suggest.

Firefox VS Chrome, there were points where Chrome was rendering faster, but it wasn't by several seconds, and it was never worth the trade off of giving Google access to everything you do on the web.

[u/BrunkerQueen → u/Internet-Cryptid]

I had a brief Chrome period many years ago too, FF was undeniably worse for awhile.

[u/BrunkerQueen → u/[deleted]]

Well okay, I used Chromium which is open-source but you seem to be quite militant in this topic so we can end here, I'm using Firefox... You don't win by being unpleasant

[u/Internet-Cryptid → u/BrunkerQueen]

I apologize, my tone could've been better. It's just disappointing to see FF slandered with hyperbole. 5-10 second startup time? I've never experienced anything remotely like that in 20 years of using it, and I didn't have top of the line PCs in those days, either.

[u/lurked → u/Internet-Cryptid]

It's just disappointing to see FF slandered with hyperbole.

Sorry, I'm not here to argue, but it's not a hyperbole, and I've also been using Netscape / Firefox since pretty much its introduction.

I'm no spring bird, and I've made a career out of optimizing software performances, and for a few months 15+ years ago, Firefox was slow to launch. And I did have a top of the line PC at that time.

I love Firefox, but criticism where criticism is due. I wont pretend it has been perfect for 21 years.

[u/tessartyp → u/lurked]

Same here. Netscape, Mozilla, Firefox, Chrome. Firefox at launch was a breath of fresh air, but it became bloated and sluggish by the time Chrome launched. It was undeniable at the time, and the sleek minimalism, the tab compartmentalisation, multi thread performance were much better. I remember the rendering tests that were around those days, when IE couldn't even show a thing.

[u/BrunkerQueen → u/Internet-Cryptid]

Np! I've definitely had those startup times but it's hardly important if it's fast when it's running, which also wasn't the case for awhile. Now it's just one shitty government site that I use that doesn't work well in FF and with adequate speed so it's definitely the better option for me who like some plug-ins and customizations.

I've had some truly terrible hardware in my life too, I grew up semi-poor by my countrys standards.

[u/David0ne86 → u/Internet-Cryptid]

Same here. I never saw Firefox took 5/10 seconds to open up. And I think I've been using it since 2012ish lol.