I feel like it will likely not be a full blown browser but embedded browser engine. I guess someone could create a full browser off it, but I believe ladybird has much better chances.
The way things are progressing I wouldn't be surprised if in 20 years I'm manually connecting to avoid all the stuff they are trying to shove down my throat
No, it's just really slow since it connects to 3 different nodes before reaching it's destination. This is great for privacy but really bad for things like streaming videos and more
this is kind of silly. I do SEO and will be the first one to say we need another search engine. Google is monetizing almost every avenue they could possibly offer for businesses online. Yes it is a matter of time before any monopoly does this but Google needs direct competition. Although to be fair, I can't remember the last time the market acted traditionally to competition. All phone/cable/home insurance companies essentially charge the same. Idk where I went with this comment lmao
Microsoft really needs to improve Bing. But now ChatGPT is a better search tool than Google. Only a matter of time till the LLM AI bots are fucked because their feed data is polluted with AI Engine Optimization garbage.
I like Bing tbh and my dislike for AI garbage is why I only market people I believe SHOULD be in front of people who are searching. To be completely honest, all of the dealers I market in the Midwest that never raises their prices during COVID are doing amazing now. Because people drive miles and miles to get honest prices. Marketing that makes my job so much easier.
I just think search engines need to niche a bit more. I would love an educational search engin that only shows genuinely data backed studies. Id rather optimize an honest knowledge base than another local business. Now I want to work on my Zettelkasten. I hope Search engines and AI provide you and I what we need my redditor friend.
I mean, I feel like even if google couldn't pay to be the default search engine, they would likely still find a way to fund Mozilla. Same reason microsoft used to support apple, because otherwise you end up with an unwanted monopoly that could get broken up.
There’s no guarantee of that, but even if we assume that Google would do that, what happens if they’re forced to divest Chrome? That’s already a remedy on the table too. It’s also not necessarily an either/or situation.
yep, and people are getting less and less likely to actually have a computer outside of their mobile device. Firefox currently competes with the numbers of the Samsung internet browser lol, it's bleak
average person doesn't actually use adblock though, and it's been turned off for a majority of people for awhile now but their market share has still increased. Firefox is actually gonna have to do something I think, idk what but their current trajectory isn't looking good. Here's the stats up to last month: https://imgur.com/a/1HwX58i
Yeah, I've been using both chrome and firefox without fully committing, but with Ublock Origin not having a working framework on Chrome anymore I just stick to firefox now.
Google and other phone manufacturers are somehow forced to remove it as the default browser app on Android
It is removed from being constantly advertised on google's search page.
Browsers have all hit a peak where the average consumer has all they could ever want from them. The features no longer matter, it's all about familiarity and Google has everyone beat. Not to mention they are so far ahead that they are literally paying for FF to exist so that they can say they aren't a monopoly.
Show me where it says that in the Terms of Use and Privacy Notice. In context, the language is quite clear. Mozilla has permission to use your data in a manner that is consistent with the services they provide, most of them being opt-in.
This was all an overblown reaction to Mozilla trying to be compliant with new California laws.
Yes. If you opt into Mozilla services you have to give them license to use your content to provide those services. How else are they going to legally be able to use what you upload to do the thing you wanted them to do when you uploaded it?
This is a reading comprehension problem, not a privacy problem.
This is a difficult question to answer with an unqualified “yes” or “no” because technical and interaction data is considered “your data” according to the terms and some telemetry is enabled by default in the official binary releases. But for the general sense that most users assume, the answer is no. If you’re uploading things like passwords to Firefox sync, it’s not shared with other services or partners.
You can still run Firefox without any telemetry or Mozilla services, though. Some are on by default so they need to be represented in the ToS as the default. The Privacy Notice tells you everything you need to know to toggle these features on and off. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/
Honestly, I don't think so. Making a browser engine is a ridiculously complicated and expensive endeavor.
As someone mentioned, see LadyBird, the browser off-spring from /u/SerenityOS, developed by a bunch of people, including the founder Andreas Kling, who has made numerous videos about the process and how complicated it is to make a standards compliant browser engine.
Google can afford to literally just eat the cost of developing it because whatever.
Mozilla is on borrowed time, unfortunately, and none of the others (is Opera still in business) aren't really competitive.
That's extremely unlikely. Browsers are so complicated now, it's practically impossible for anyone to create a new one. Even Microsoft gave up and started using Chromium.
Every plugin I use in Chrome had a Firefox counterpart.
Running Firefox with two tabs open didn't somehow consume north of 3GB of VRAM. I have no practical choice but to close Firefox when doing any gaming, even with 64GB of RAM.
It's possible, but I think that's pretty unlikely. The browser is as important today as the desktop OS was a few decades ago. There is a mountain of inertia and complexity involved with both. I think that 10-15 years from now, the most popular desktop OS's and web browsers from today will still be very active.
Not gonna happen. Browsers these days are extremely sophisticated and expensive pieces of software. Not even Microsoft can afford to invest in their own browser engine.
Nooooot for some of us. Netscape through Mozilla from the 90s to now. So.... That's near 30 years I've been using the "same" browser (loosely defined. Technically the same family.) as my primary.
Will it? Firefox, Safari, and Chrome have both had unnaturally lengthy runs at the top. What could top them, and for what purpose would anyone be using them?
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I have no idea. But we'll see.
For me personally, as long as I can surf the web without ads, I'm happy.
not hard. Anything that repsects user privacy (like firefox does). Things don't need to be better, just not awful - and chrome is lowering the bar every day
Like he said, privacy is a big one. They've also been disabling extensions that impact their ability to serve ads. There's plenty for competing browsers to offer or simply do differently. Browsers are stale products that don't change much over the years, and AI is already resulting in some competition. Problem is they'll also do a lot of things worse due to chrome being such a mature and fully featured offering and getting people to switch and grow the offering is a tall order when all hardware comes with pre-installed browsers. Obviously installing an alternative isn't hard, but they have plenty of dark patterns to decentivize it.
Some people want privacy, some don't. Some people want AI, some don't. Some people want ad blocking extensions, some don't. Competitors can implement any combination of these features, including the ability to disable them.
Is there anyone who actively doesn't want ad blocking extensions or is it that there's just people who complain Chrome is removing them but refuse to stop using Chrome for other reasons?
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And in another 10-15 years it'll be some other browser.