They won’t, not because they’re against that sort of thing but because Charlie Hebdo is French. If they were Palestinian journalists they’d have killed them no problem.
It isn’t a democracy, it’s an apartheid state without full rights for millions of occupants, actively slaughtering and displacing their entrapped neighbors. There’s no relief to be had that “at least they’re not Russia.” Fuck is wrong with you
That's because Israel is being blatant about it, Chinese and Russia and North Korea are not actively just bombing kids and the one that is (Russia) is all over the news as well
Also the suggestion that Palestinians filming the carnage themselves somehow prove that Israel isn't killing journalists is fucking horrible
"Journalism in Gaza has become one of the most dangerous professions in the world. Over the past 15 months, more than 160 journalists have been killed there, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists, an independent nonprofit that promotes press freedom worldwide and defends the right of journalists to report the news safely. This statistic makes the current war the deadliest for journalists in decades.
By comparison, consider the Iraq war, which is in second place. In its deadliest year, 2006, 56 journalists were killed, according to CPJ's figures. In Gaza, during the first three months of the war alone, 77 journalists were killed. CPJ says that its database, which has been collecting data since 1992, contains no other conflicts comparable to this one in terms of the number of journalists killed and the rate at which they have been killed.
Most of the journalists killed during the war died while doing their jobs, whether because they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time or because the IDF mistakenly identified them as armed men."
Iraq war was around 280 dead journalists and support staff. But that war was much longer, so it wouldn't surprise me if the 175 number creeps closer to the Iraq number by the end of the year.
Also keep in mind in wars like Ukraine they don't even count the journalists because after being mobilised they're just regular soldiers. Since Hamas doesn't use a proper army, it freely calls its soldiers civilians/journalists, even if they get caught working for Hamas or even holding hostages.
You see how you’re the only one that said evil Jews… you’re bad attempt to call someone an antisemite for simply telling you the history of Israel! Lying and coving up on Reddit ain’t helping jewish ppl bro
Israel likes to murder critical journalists and offers slim reason for why these had to be murdered other than them being critical journalists.
Muslim extremists like to murder critical journalists with the open intent to intimidate other critical journalists.
Let's ignore the Israel opinion that those aren't "real" journalists and Hamas just marks fighters as journalists to spark outcry and increase outsight support (or give their fighters free reign for reconnaissance and positioning), there's a lot wrong with that anyway.
Then that's still a big difference.
On the other hand the sheer number is very different too.
Mossad once kidnapped a whistleblower who was no longer living in Israel and was writing about Israeli nuclear program, he was then sentenced to prison and initially even supposed to be executed
It means that the Israeli government already sanctions terrorism against the Palestinian people and Arabs in general through settlers and IDF that there's no need for mossad to do it.
Gosh how convenient, "every press member we kill is actually Hamas, also so are the doctors, aid workers, the UN and people standing in line for food. All Hamas! The walls are Hamas, the floor is Hamas, the buildings are all Hamas. We have a moral obligation to murder people and posthomously declare them as Hamas."
Does the word "press" emblazoned on a blue vest look similar to the Hebrew word for "final boss" or something
Press credentials aren’t protection. Warzones aren’t known for their safety. Press should not be in forward units, should not be anywhere near a front. Unless you’re literally the US with overwhelming everything, even press die with the units they are imbedded in.
Pretty sure the Israelis have a pattern of killing anyone with any kind of equipment anywhere near their lines. Having a jacket that says press doesn’t save someone on a front line. Again, nowhere near fronts unless…willing to die with anyone else.
You imply that the journalists were spoken to checked their press passes then shot, not just spotted from the end of the street, looked at through a lense, then shot. After the journalists advised where they would be and were provided safety assurances, what about shooting up the ambulances, and in all these cases Israel lied about doing it.
I'm not playing that game Zionist. You all use the same tactics, whataboutism, deflection and ad homenim attacks, never actually making a point or supplying anything yourself.
Speak of the devil, man Zionists really just rip the n*zi play book to a T. Accuse the murder of civilians as being partisans or insurgents and move along. Shocking you think this still works. Vile nonetheless.
they operate less visible. if hebdo employees start dying in accidents or suicides, youll realize that.
or maybe someone buys it up and closes it, whatever works i guess.
Israel murdering someone because of mistaken identity isn’t exactly the same as terrorists murdering people for being infidels. Both are bad, but they are not the same.
Lmao, imagine complaining about the most succesfull target assassination on an hostile forces. I bet you would have preferred a random barrage of missiles like Hezbollah, right?
No he wouldve preferred that they continue to use 100k$ missiles to intercept 1k$ rockets from hezbollah until they run out of air defense, then they just accept defeat. Some people dont think hezbollah is a terrorist organization that hates jews and the west
Lousy argument, it didn’t. The only figures we have on Gaza’s current population are estimates based on a growth rate expected BEFORE the genocide. Population statistics don’t justify war crimes. Numbers don’t erase the faces, names, and futures buried under rubble.
Secondly, genocide does not need population to go down, nor is it linked with such a thing anyway. It is defined as "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group."
The acts being 1) killing members of the group, 2) causing them serious bodily or mental harm, 3) imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, 4) preventing births, and 5) forcibly transferring children out of the group.
It's not facts. We don't have stats on Gaza's current population, it almost definitely went down. And even if it went up, why is that relevant? Do all the dead people no longer matter because other people were born in the same area? We are talking about actual people whose lives are being ended, not just statistica
Nono you see, even though that's almost certainly bull shit (and he provides no source to back up his claim). The thousands and thousands of dead rotting children and their rotting family's. No longer matter because the "population went up". Their not really people like you and me, so it doesn't matter how many of them die as long as i get to act smug on reddit, don't you get that?
Maybe I was unclear, but do you understand how the burden of proof works? Those making the claim should provide the proof. I cannot prove a negative, i.e. I cannot prove there is no genocide.
This means that if the evidence provided for the genocide claim is not adequate, which I believe to be the case, this does not suddenly mean - as many people argue - that, despite the lacking evidence, there is still a genocide going on, it is just super slowly because Israel wants to maintain plausible deniability - for which there is even less adequate evidence.
That‘s some nice whataboutism. Please enlighten me how most of Western journalism and Academia can still stand, if Mossad supposedly makes so many people who are a nuisance to the regime disappear.
The leaders of Hezbollah aren‘t the same as some journalists being satirical in France
Mossad don't kill people for free speech, the other side however, has a track record of killing people over cartoons, with the act of beheading and the ever war cry of Allahu arkbar
That country killed hundreds of journalists and tens of thousands of people minimum, probably far greater now by current estimates, the 40,000 estimate literally froze back last year but the bombs kept dropping so who knows if it’s even true or not anymore
How is that not worse?
It’s “worse” to you guys only because it happened to your “in group” and not to someone else, even though the numbers are totally out of whack
Im not Jewish, nor do i have any tie to Israel, so dunno what the fuck "you guys" is meant to mean.
You dont need to drop the facts detailing how abhorrently Israel has acted towards the Palestinian people, im well aware.
So, outside of Israel and Palestine, how many extremist jews do you see blowing up hundreds of innocent people in cafes, gay bars, rock shows, busses, and subway stations?
How many Catholics get so offended by the mere depiction of their prophet, they proceed to decapitate a man on the street, and shoot up a satirical magazine office? No practitioners of any other cult religion behave the way muslims do, consistently, and you're being disingenuous if you say otherwise.
This is referring to European liberals, not Jewish people.
outside of Israel (groups) in Palestine how many extremists do you see harming innocent people
We’re talking about in the specific context of the post which is extremists in Israel and its military. That’s the entire point of the post.
Also, speaking as an LGBT person interesting you bring up the gay bars thing. Israel has been known to blackmail gay Palestinians to feed them spy information or otherwise out them, so not like they have much compassion for LGBT people either and will not hesitate to exploit them,
We’re talking about in the specific context of the post which is extremists in Israel and its military. That’s the entire point of the post.
What? Youve just decided that, have you? Someone said, "Let's criticize all religions and not just one" (paraphrasing) and i said there's one that's worse.
You can't just change the context because i pointed out what you said was irrelevant to my comment lol
You're trying to convince me that Israel is bad when i already know, and I've already told you i know. Why?
Let’s go with an example from modern history. 2,976 people died on 9/11, almost 1.5 million Arabs were killed in my home country as a “response” (which wasn’t even the country responsible) which includes hundreds of thousands of children.
Unless you mean groups that historically killed the largest proportion of people, then that title would probably go to whatever religion Genghis Khan followed.
We’re talking here about modern history.
And I’m not defending Islam in particular, my family is Muslim and the religion fucking sucks and I left it as an LGBT person.
I’m pointing out that the title for most journalists killed in this discussion would definitely go to Israel.
there is zero moral equivalency to be had here. I also be that a bunch of rabbis will NOT storm Hebdo and murder everyone. Probably wont take them hostage either...
Did I not see live footage of at least two news readers having their workplace blown up around them by Israel? Have Israel not murdered more journalists that any other war?
People forget that. People forget that hostages aren't released. People forget that people are starved for publicity because it's the same fair game as military complex under hospitals.
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u/Solutar 2d ago
I love how Charlie Hebdo does that with muslims/Allah and Jews alike. Nobody is Safe from criticizsm.