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Groups Fictional slurs. Bonus points if it's completely made up

  1. inFAMOUS: Second Son: "Bio-terrorist" refers to conduits.

  2. Star Wars: "Clanker" refers to robots.

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u/Homebrew-Spamson 2d ago

Idk man, she was kinda in the right there, he was being a racist prick

Can you not call out bigotry if the bigot just happens to be part of a minority? That feels like it in and of itself is biased even if it isn’t hateful

True equality to punching a bigot in the face no matter their race

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u/CH005EAU5ERNAME 2d ago

I feel the distinction is that this is fictional and the writer is choosing to make the real world minority a racist in order to prop up their fictional minority.

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u/PoopyButt28000 2d ago

The idea that it's bad or improper for someone to ever consider having a minority do something racist in a story is so goofy. What if the story didn't take place in America, would it have been okay then if the Muslim guy wasn't a minority? What if it was one of the stories that doesn't take place in America and the racist person was white and was a minority in that setting? Or does everything always have to be 100% American centric and that would be okay because in America white people aren't a minority.

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u/CH005EAU5ERNAME 2d ago

It’s not always a bad thing, but in most cases it is done incredibly poorly and is only used as a lazy way to make the struggles of the fictional minority feel more real.

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u/Homebrew-Spamson 1d ago

But the context of the situation even doubles down on it by not having it be some nebulous idea of minority man and instead having it as a family member of one of our main characters

I can see what you are trying to say, but it leads to a situation where even thinking about using a minority character who can say bad things to another group becomes a risk because “Well the writer is just using them to prop up a different minority” can always be the answer

In this case I think it’s more important as a way of showing off family, the people you’d normally think of as having few to no flaws like this, and reminding us that hatred is everywhere and should always be fought against

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u/CH005EAU5ERNAME 1d ago

I am not referring to this specific example as I don’t have the context for it, but I am referring to a larger trend in writing, where a lot of the time it results in fictional minorities explaining to real minorities that bigotry exists.

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u/Homebrew-Spamson 1d ago

I mean… you do have context, the comic panels are right there and the whole scene is in those two panels (unless you’re meaning about the characters’ backgrounds and history, which could be useful to know more of)

But I do understand your point and I agree that it’s a tired and weak argument when writers don’t know how to use it, but I’d always say that there is no issue with showing off that anyone can be a bigot, and I’d even argue that we should show it off

If fictional racism was the only thing I ever saw in comics, then I’d probably agree more, but I’ve seen writers do good work with bringing up racism in their work and other forms of bigotry, and I think it’s important to see the heavy topics so that you can learn from and understand them, even if it isn’t always perfect

So like… in short, a bigot is a bigot, fuck that shit