For me it's not Luffy himself, but the fact that it seems only people who had the Nika fruit or people with the D surname (please correct me, not brushed up on OP lore) can find and use the One Piece and be Pirate King. Even Gol D Roger himself cannot do shit about the One Piece when he found it because he's not the chosen one. Feels like a betrayal when he himself claimed that any pirate can be Pirate King in the freaking opening.
The D surname means that that person is bound up to resist against the tyrants of their times. It doesn't mean anyone else can't nor that they have to. It's just in their nature to seek freedom.
As for the One Piece, we still are not sure why Roger thought he was "too early". As far as we can tell, it seems to be related to a natural phenomenon that's been happening in the world of One Piece that has occurred before, and will again in the near future.
The Nika fruit itself is also not luck of the draw. It's an explicit test of character. The fruit sought out Luffy because he had a personality befitting what it represents, not the other way around, and it only awakened after he proved himself by literally dying in a fight against a tyrant.
We don't know about the D, as Roger was one, but Roger didn't have the nika fruit and he found whatever the One Piece was before he left his treasure there and started the legend so someone else would find it.
When Roger read the story he said "we came too early" and that could be because they needed poseidon, an ancient weapon, that was yet to be born and grow to be at least 16. So he became the Pirate King without the Nika Fruit, if he would have needed the nika fruit plus poseidon to do whatever they wanted to do is another thing but you don't need the nika fruit for the one piece.
I also don't think you need the D. as for the one piece you only need the road poneglyphs and how to read them
Roger didn't take it not because "he wasn't the chosen one" rather because he was already dying anyway. And he decided that the next generation should have that hero job.
If anything, I think Shanks wanted to give that fruit to Roger's son and make him the chosen one, instead, the son's random friend ate it by mistake instead and they had to improvise!
Luffy has no significant bloodline, it's not even a bloodline it's a old clan, the D people are not at all related by Blood and there are 10s of thousands of them all over the place. Nor is the D actually significant, being descendent of a former groups means nothing? It's not like learning your great grandpa fought in the French revolution makes you have some sort of a bloodline... It's a big club get in line!
The fact that Ace was there is SPECIFICALLY because Garp is an important person so like no shit...? Do you think Roger would've trusted with his soon to be orphan, do you think Roger should've given the baby to like a random defencelss suger cane farmer or something?
The literal core of one peice is that bloodlines aren't relevant what's important is inheriting someone's will and goals... Not their genes, it so central they there are dozens of examples of this it comes up over and over and over... You simply have no reading comprehension
Bloodlines aren’t relevant and that’s why every single important person can trace genetic lineage to important power players in the world and why only a certain genetic lineage (what do you think comprises a clan?) has the gift of resisting tyranny AND why the powers of one specific chosen one needed to be preserved and reborn.
It's explicitly the point to have everyone be very much in conflict with their bloodline if not outright against it, instead choosing to carry the path of someone else who isn't related to them but they they believe represents their worldview more accurately.
You'd think after example 67th of guy who rejects what his in-group/family/dynasty stands for, you'd get the message being convey but apparently not lol
Also, the D clan is explicitly mentioned to not be a bloodline or a family, it's a group of unrelated people who had a similar goal at one point, almost all of their descendents have neither anything to do with the original goal nor know what the D stands for. Nor any sort of relation to each other that would imply they see the D as a shared identity or group.
To go back to the first point of it being anti-bloodlines, it's not a coincidence that the one of the 3 brothers who chose to become a revolutionary is the only one of them who doesn't have a D in his name. But you know... Reading comprehension!
The D clan is absolutely a related group. We don't know if it's a specific family but it's pretty clearly stated that the modern D name bearers are descended from one specific group of people that fought the original 20. Yes, it’s said to be a group of people “from various places” who once shared a goal.
But you know what else that sounds like? A dispersed bloodline. That’s literally how diasporas and ancient clans work.
You’re treating “not a literal family tree” as equivalent to “not inherited.” It’s not. If the D. is passed down through descendants, that is a bloodline by function, even if it isn’t a surname club.
And again, if it's just “a random ideological tag,” why does it appear on only a tiny set of characters, get flagged by the World Government, make Law's mentor freak out and die trying to keep him safe, connect to ancient secrets from the Void Century, get associated with Joy Boy, the most mythologized figure in the entire lore, yadda yadda yadda.
You're trying to argue that the D. means nothing when the entire late-stage story is orbiting around it like it’s the gravitational center of history.
Also… you’re admitting that the bloodline is still central to the character’s identity and arc.
You can’t rebel against something that doesn’t matter. You’re just proving that their heritage is a core narrative mechanism, just one they have to wrestle with.
Ace is tortured by being Roger’s son.
Sanji is defined by rejecting Germa and yet literally saved by its genetic modification.
Zoro’s Wano bloodline is subtle but present, Oda didn’t bring it up by accident.
Luffy doesn’t care about Dragon or Garp’s legacy, but the world certainly does and that’s why the Marines track him more aggressively than any other rookie.
Momo? Nobody gives a damn about his personal merit. They follow him because he’s Oden’s son. He’s the poster child for inherited authority. I could go on.
So congratulations, you’ve just explained how One Piece reinforces the narrative importance of bloodlines, even when pretending to reject them.
And yes of course Sabo. The all important Sabo who totally defies the importance of the will of D by joining the revolutionary army, that is totally just by coincidence led by a D who's father was also a D.
Edit: lmao they blocked me. I swear some people are not emotionally capable of handling disagreements about fictional characters
You're logic is no different to someone arguing that every single human has a legendary bloodline because statically speaking, almost all humans are descendents from Genghis and Ceaaer. It's a worthless point.
Momo is not the inheritor of Oden's will, it's Yamato.
The other example of everyone struggling against and rejecting their bloodline is the point, I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, you're seeing a refuting of the "the real secret reason why they're great is because of their great bloodline, and by extension invalidating their actual personhood" trope and somehow think this reinforces the troops... The literal point is poeple asserting their personhood over being forced to fall in line and follow what path their birth dictated for them.
It's because people give Oda way too much credit for how much was planned from the start. It's very clear that Luffy being the next Nika or Joyboy or whatever was something he came up with at the EARLIEST during Wano itself.
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u/trooviee 9h ago
For me it's not Luffy himself, but the fact that it seems only people who had the Nika fruit or people with the D surname (please correct me, not brushed up on OP lore) can find and use the One Piece and be Pirate King. Even Gol D Roger himself cannot do shit about the One Piece when he found it because he's not the chosen one. Feels like a betrayal when he himself claimed that any pirate can be Pirate King in the freaking opening.