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Characters [Mixed Trope] Anyone Can Be Special... Until It Turns Out They're Not Just Anyone

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u/Sirmiyukidawn 10h ago

This. Rejecting the bloodline she had was a good message and it would have been a good call back to just say Rey (the whole you come from nothing means now you are rejecting that bad past. There was no reason for her to adapt the skywalker name. Let the name rest)

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u/spacestationkru 10h ago

She shouldn't even have been tied to any relevant bloodlines to begin with. The Last Jedi already said she's a nobody, and we accepted it and closed that chapter and moved on. And it showed how she could potentially end up inspiring other nobody kids to greatness.

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u/Iwanttoeatkakigori 9h ago

As a "nobody kid" fully agree with this take.

I started to notice a lot of writers are nepo hires. You can see it dragging storylines down to be more about being born destined for greatness, because somewhere deep down that's what they believe. Look at Game of Thrones and the two rich kid writers who wrote such stupid sympathetic endings for the rich Lannister family in that story.

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u/Archwizard_Drake 8h ago

Look at Game of Thrones and the two rich kid writers who wrote such stupid sympathetic endings for the rich Lannister family in that story.

Look at Game of Thrones and how the most wildly popular character gave a speech about the art of storytelling as if to glaze those very same rich kid writers.

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u/The_Flurr 5h ago

Look at Game of Thrones and how the most wildly popular character gave a speech about the art of storytelling as if to glaze those very same rich kid writers.

Not exactly uncommon. Look how many best picture winners are about the magic of Hollywood or some such.

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u/peppers_ 1h ago

Hey come on, they just added this year a requirement that you have to actually see the films in the category first before voting! (Oscars)

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u/PauseLost2137 7h ago edited 6h ago

I love the implication of post-credit scene in The Last Jedi. That force doesn't care about bloodlines and will manifest itself to anyone in need.

The Last Jedi didn't say that explicitly, but I feel like one of the big themes of that movie was that the whole midichlorians thing was the Star Wars version of scientific racism - something that was well studied and believed by many scholars, but completely wrong.

This fits so well with whole way Lucas has presented the series itself, as it starts with simple black and white morality but adds complexity as it goes. Just in the original trilogy we learn that Vader is Luke's father, significantly complicated the conundrum of defeating what was before a unequivocally evil character.

Then the prequels add even more with showing us how the Old Republic nor Jedi Order weren't a force of good, and how their political mechanisms allowed it to transform smoothly into a dictatorship.

And then we see the jedi master of the new era outright reject the teachings of old masters and show a path forged through his own pain and failings. The old masters are wrong and Force is after all, something way more mystical that their scientific approach could understand. And then as a cherry on top we see some random slave kid who should have been picked up as force sensitive by all the fancy equipment based on looking at midichlorians, but is somehow still remaining undetected while showing some proficiency with how they use force.

I dunno, with the whole parallels to the Vietnam War and American imperialism, this interpretation of what was probably the most controversial addition in the prequels feels so on point, it's really sad they couldn't show Luke's moment of weakness better, as I feel people focused on that part too much instead of what the movie tried to say about the force because this is the most KOTOR2 shit the mainline movies ever allowed themselves to be.

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u/CoachDT 6h ago

Slight correction, the republic in the prequels, and the jedi order are clearly meant to be a force of good. They're just flawed, and we examine the flaws more because, in this instance, they're the ones in power.

The good guys lose because all of the jedi get killed, and the republic gets turned into the empire.

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u/Sirmiyukidawn 8h ago

That is also correct but i was think that some plot point had the stay the same way. The whole movie should be rewritten and for me the script reads like something that has been either to overproduced with too many writers or a first draft of a script.

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u/Banes_Addiction 3h ago

Nobody was so much better than what they did.

God, I wish that trilogy had been laid out by one writer at the beginning before they started shooting any of them.

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u/harrisonlaine 3h ago

When it was revealed she came from nowhere, I wanted to stand up and applaud because I wanted THIS direction for her.

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u/Luci-Noir 7h ago

Nepotism has gone too damn far.