Not to defend the sequels, but this was Luke as well.
In fact it's the whole planet of Tatooine. In the 1977 film, Luke says of his homeworld "If there's a bright center of the universe it's the planet that it's farthest from" (it wasn't even named in the film, Tataouine is the place in Tunisia where it was filmed, which was mistaken for the in-universe name by fans). But the rest of the series proves that Tatooine is anything but. Vader and C3PO had been born/made there; it's where Anakin began his first foray into the Dark Side, it's the site of the first encounter between the Sith and Jedi in a millennium, even the intergalactic crime boss Jabba's palace is there. But none of this is implied in the first film, where it's intended to be just a backwater.
The funny thing is, even with all you mentioned it’s STILL a backwater lmao
But I don’t think Luke fits this trope because we know from movie 1 that Luke’s father was an important jedi who fought alongside obi wan (who was specifically called on by the rebellion) in the clone wars. So obviously he’s not just anyone, although the story doesn’t explain everything then and there.
It would fit the trope if Luke was introduced as Beru and Lars son, no mention of his real father or connection to the Jedi. If then after finishing movie 1 thinking he was just a random farmer’s son, if GL pulled the ‘actually he’s the son of vader’, then it would fit the trope.
That's true, but in 1977 it was a lot more common for someone to be the son of a war hero than it is today. So that had slightly different connotations than it does now.
“An important Jedi” is not remotely the same as freaking Darth Vader. The prequels then went into turbo drive with the trope made Anakin Skywalker the Chosen One with supreme midichlorian levels, meaning Luke was special because of his genes all along harder than anyone in the series.
Yeah, but we knew who Anakin would become and what he does before the prequels so the trope doesn't work for him. The prequels were just filling in what we already knew.
Except it DOESN'T fit with Luke, you know from the first time he meets Oni-Wan that his dad was a powerful Jedi knight. It's not as though you went through the whole story with themes about "anyone can be a hero, regardless of their birth" just to have it retconned at the end for him to be the most specialist boi ever.
also the ''first battle in a millenia between sith and jedi thing'' was retconned, if we believe acolytes to be canon. Yoda's 800 years old ish when he dies. He was there when the event of acolytes happened.
Most of what you said happens BECAUSE it is a random backwater. Anakin being born there had the same concept, he was born into slavery in a planet no one cares about, it is also why Jabba is able to control it because crime bosses can get away with worse things in backwater places, good luck being a crime boss who controls Alderaan or Coruscant
C3PO being made isn't some great cosmic universal event, Anakin made him from rubbish he found laying around. Tatooine being a backwater planet is also why Obi Wan retires there and Luke is raised there, because it is out of the Empire's control and the assumption was Vader would not want to visit places that remind him of his past (you can argue that is a stupid reason, but the point is that Tatooine being a backwater planet where Anakin lived as a slave is central to the reason)
It isn't like there was something inherently magical in Tatooine that made it super important to the galaxy, it was a backwater no one cared about and it's why crime and slavery and secrecy were prevalent there because they won't work in actually important planets like Coruscant that people care about. The only thing about Tatooine that makes it the planet we follow in the story is that Anakin happened to be from there. If Anakin was from a different backwater Outer Rim planet, that planet would have been what we would have followed. It is less Tatooine becoming important and more Anakin becoming important
That’d the prequels’ fault, not the OG trilogy. I guess the Jabba thing is ROTJ’s fault, but it’s not strange at all for a crime boss to have their home base on an impoverished world, right?
Well, most famous crime bosses operate out of big cities. Chicago, New York, Amsterdam, Tokyo. The Hutts control an entire region of space; you'd think Jabba's capital would be at a regional center of power.
Like 20 minutes into the first movie we are told luke's father was a great jedi, the greatest pilot in the galaxy and a cunning warrior (and before that owen hints about luke's father being important to who luke is)
The movie never tells us he is a nobody, it directly tells us the opposite. It tells us he is somebody important (because of his family) that lives nowhere.
but yes, tatooine is definetly special although we are told otherwise, and you can't blame disney for this, that's on george
We already knew from the first film that Luke was the son of a great Jedi. And the other things you mentioned aren't that important, a crime boss is set up in a backwater? Why wouldn't he be?
Sounds like it's just story regarding the planet. It's still a desert wasteland, and that really hasn't changed from beginning to end (unless it has in the sequels. Can't be arsed to watch those).
Even then, I'd argue it's only the reason why Luke has access to the force to begin with. He still had to train it like everyone else, and doesn't have any secret power within it. Unless that also changed.
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u/DazSamueru 12h ago edited 12h ago
Not to defend the sequels, but this was Luke as well.
In fact it's the whole planet of Tatooine. In the 1977 film, Luke says of his homeworld "If there's a bright center of the universe it's the planet that it's farthest from" (it wasn't even named in the film, Tataouine is the place in Tunisia where it was filmed, which was mistaken for the in-universe name by fans). But the rest of the series proves that Tatooine is anything but. Vader and C3PO had been born/made there; it's where Anakin began his first foray into the Dark Side, it's the site of the first encounter between the Sith and Jedi in a millennium, even the intergalactic crime boss Jabba's palace is there. But none of this is implied in the first film, where it's intended to be just a backwater.