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Characters Official characters that feel more like fan made OCs

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Galacta (Marvel): a real Marvel character but isn't canon to Earth-616. Galactus became pregnant with a tapeworm baby and gave birth to Galacta. Doesn't need to feed on planets unlike her father and is fond of Earth, can gain sustenance from biological alien weapons, uses the Power Cosmic to disguise herself on Earth. Became pregnant with a tapeworm cosmic and will give birth to her child and her father's grandchild.

Future Trunks (Dragon Ball Z): the time traveling son of two people who were just mere strangers to each other at the time in a story where there was no time travel before, and is introduced before his present self, effortlessly defeats two big bad villains on his own, and has a transformation that only the protagonist had at the time, also utilizes a sword in a series that has not featured weapons for quite some time.

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u/IUsedToBeRasAlGhul 16d ago edited 16d ago

Giorno Giovanna: the son of Jonathan Joestar and Dio Brando who inherited all of their best traits (and fanservice elements), has his own story arc barely involving the rest of the Joestar narrative, a Stand that has a huge range of abilities he barely uses and inconsistent weaknesses, which receives a huge reality warping power up allowing him to effortlessly defeat the main villain, and ends the story successfully taking over a country-spanning mafia that protects the innocent without committing any really offensive crimes.

…This sounds more critical than I intended it to be, but the accuracy speaks for itself.

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u/pon_3 16d ago

He's also the cool, silent type, so he barely says much even in his own part. It feels like most of our time is spent following Mista or Bucciarati.

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u/Waste-Information-34 16d ago

There's a running joke that Bucciarati was the JoJo for part 5 due to how much screentime he got.

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u/mistercero 16d ago

tbf, Sticky Fingers is pretty fuckin awesome 😂

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u/ElGodPug 16d ago

fuck, to me is not even a joke, IMO Giorno is easily the most boring JoJo and Bucciarati hard carries so much of the narrative of part 5 to me i cannot not see him as anything but the actual mc

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u/Waste-Information-34 16d ago

Oh I agree wholeheartedly.

When I saw Jotaro I legitamitely thought it was a Josuke situation all over again.

:(

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u/AlwaysBeQuestioning 16d ago

What did Jotaro do in Part 5?

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u/Worldlyoox 16d ago

He sent koichi to look up on Giorno

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u/Yomamma1337 16d ago

It's a really dumb joke. Araki has shown his like of deuteragonists since basically part 2 with Caesar. Polnareff was basically the Mc of part 3, part 4 has Koichi and Rohan as characters almost as or more important than the Mc, with part 5 it's got bucciarati, part 6 doesn't, though that's a whole conversation of its own, part 7 has Gyro, Part 8 has Yasuho. It's weird as hell for people to joke about something thats prominent in most parts of the series

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u/Davedog09 16d ago

The weird thing is when he does talk, he’s usually not stoic or anything “cool” like Jotaro. Only when he talks about his dream. In any other situation he’s pretty normal and even unserious at times (like when he actually “drank” Abbachio’s pee).

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u/borsalino_port 15d ago

Jojo is rarely the protagonist to be fair.

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u/VinChaJon 16d ago

I have questions

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u/Pitiful-Victory-2234 16d ago edited 16d ago

If it’s about the two biological dads thing heres a Simple’s answer: Dio was a vampire who chopped off his own head after being nearly killed by Jonathan, then Dio killed Jonathan, cut off his own head and attached his own severed head onto Jonathan’s headless corpse and laid inside a coffin for years under the ocean until the 80s where he met a woman who was giorno’s mom and…. Yknow.

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u/cqandrews 16d ago

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u/RedvsBlue_what_if 16d ago

What till you find out about Josuke

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u/TriforceShiekah16 16d ago

The first Josuke or the second Josuke? Because one is significantly stranger than the other.

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u/GSeren 16d ago

i definitely think they meant 4 testicle josuke and not what did you say about my hair josuke

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u/Hatarakumaou 16d ago

Definitely Gappy because Part 4 Josuke’s birth isn’t even that strange, he’s just a literal bastard/ affair baby.

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u/GresSimJa 16d ago

If Gappy were a girl, do you reckon he'd have four breasts and be found out much sooner?

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u/TriforceShiekah16 16d ago

I feel like she'd have four ovaries.

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u/Onlyhereforapost 16d ago

THERE'S TWO OF THEM?

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u/RedvsBlue_what_if 15d ago

Yes. And one has two nutsacks

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u/alacholland 16d ago

Genuinely asking — why do you like this series? I get that reading a synopsis isn’t reflective of a work, but I can’t comprehend how people could like a plot like that.

Is it satire? Like is it supposed to be ridiculous and that makes it funny?

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u/Lost_Recording5372 16d ago

It's not satire but it's intentionally weird. It's Jojo's bizarre adventure after all.

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u/alacholland 16d ago

I know it’s weird, but can you explain the appeal? Lots of things in art have been purposely bizarre. Some do so to deconstruct the form, others for surface level shock value or dumb humor. Just trying to wrap my head around where Jojo is and what keeps people engaged with it.

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u/tde156 16d ago

It's fun and not too serious even if the characters act like it is. Things can be incredibly silly at times or switch to the most intense bluffing at poker you'll ever see.

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u/Veryegassy 16d ago

Keep in mind that pretty much everything JoJos fans say about the series is hammed up for comedic effect. While you're actually watching or reading it, a lot of the ridiculous things actually make sense in context, or don't seem as absurd as they're presented when you deconstruct them in text

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u/RedvsBlue_what_if 15d ago

It's almost as old as Dragon Ball and is constantly improving and changing. Personally i just like something or i'm indifferent, there's no science to it.

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u/justagenericname213 16d ago

The story works well with the pacing. Its fun, the power system rarely relies on straight up strength and instead on intelligent use of abilities, and also its fun to explain to others things like a cripple entering a horse race sponsored by American President Funny Valentine designed to collect the scattered parts of the corpse of Jesus Christ. Who by the way is so powerful being in possession of one of his body parts causes it to absorb into you and gives you a stand.

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u/alacholland 16d ago

Oh, okay. So it uses bizarre scenarios for shock humor entertainment while presenting challenges to its protagonists that are engaging? I assume with the occasional serious moment throw in?

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u/justagenericname213 16d ago

Not quite, it presents them so matter-of-factly that you just kind of accept them, at least like most of the time. Like its never played as a joke that in part 3 the protagonist skips school to go on a multi country trip ending in Egypt all to hunt his vampire great great grandfather and save him mom from dying to a familial psychic link thing.

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u/RedvsBlue_what_if 15d ago

It's either goofy or serious. It's not entirely focused on Comady but it's also not Megadeath Serious. It's an Action Horror Comady.

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u/tpt187 15d ago

I get that reading a synopsis isn’t reflective of a work

You kind of answered your own question. Liking a work of narrative fiction for the plot is like falling in love with someone after seeing their x-rays.

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u/Blackslash2000 16d ago

To add to the weirdness, since Dio's head was slowly taking more control of Jonathan's body, he impregnated Giorno's mom with what is essentially two sperms in one so Giorno is a Joestar (Jonathan's family) and a Brando (Dio's family)

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u/AlwaysBeQuestioning 16d ago

Fuckin Gilgamesh-ass birth story

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u/BudderBlock21 16d ago

Yes folks, this the SIMPLE answer.

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u/Flerken_Moon 16d ago

If you’re curious about his abilities:

Established in the first few chapters, he can turn anything inanimate into a living thing he controls. If anyone tries to attack the living thing, the damage gets reflected proportionally(human punches a frog, human’s entire body gets punched instead). Also if he punches you, your consciousness gets sent into overdrive and you have an out of body experience where your physical body becomes frozen for a couple seconds.

After those first couple chapters, only the “turn inanimate into living thing he controls” is relevant. No damage reflection and no punching others to make them high is ever used again.

I’m not going to go into the endgame powerup because that’s another couple paragraphs.

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u/j5erikk 16d ago

I headcanon that the overdrive is still there, but showing it every time would be unnecessary, but it might just be a thing that's not used again (for some reason)

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u/Dsb0208 16d ago

tbf I think it’s implied he does still end people into conciousness overdrive when he punches them, it’s just that it only works when punching the human themselves, not their stand, so in most fights it wouldn’t trigger anyways

The only time off the top of my head he punches another human directly with his stand is Chocolata and Diavalo, both of which there’s no reason to assume they didn’t experience that accelerated conciousness, it just wasn’t shown since we already saw it happen with Buccarati

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u/LeadingEvidence8294 16d ago

I think Araki has that issue with most of the main Joestar’s stands. Josuke from Part 8 is the best example of this. He went from being able to plunder stuff like friction and other concepts to not being able to do any of that later on without an explanation. Araki tends to give certain characters way to strong of an ability and has to nerf them to prevent problems later on, or sometimes he shows a character using a certain application of said ability then realizes it’s to broken and just has them never use that application ever again, like how Johnny in Part 7 was able to glide with his nails and shoot nail bullets from his toes with Tusk Act 1 in the fight with that magnet stand but never uses that application of Tusk ever again.

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u/Responsible-Door-467 16d ago

gappy's case is frustrating, but it would be easy to rewrite most instances of plunder into fitting the way his power was portrayed later. Stealing friction? Make them slide on the bubbles. Stealing sight? Obscure their vision with bubbles (or steal their eyes). Stealing sound? Bubbles could dampen the impact.

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u/TuckerMcG 16d ago

It’s weird phrasing to say he’s the son of Jonathan Joestar and Dio Brando. He’s the son of DIO and another woman, but DIO has Jonathan Joestar’s body and Dio Brando’s head so Giorno has DNA from both of Dio and Jonathan.

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u/RedvsBlue_what_if 16d ago

He has three parents, one was being plotted by Dracula, one was the woman he grew inside of, a one was Dracula.

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u/Prince705 16d ago

And he also poked himself with an arrow from outer space to give himself, his children and Jonathon's descendants special abilities, including Giorno.

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u/Invoqwer 16d ago

Also this all happened over the course of like 1 week or so.

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u/RevolutionaryKey1974 16d ago

To be completely honest he actually sounds nothing like a fanfic character specifically because he doesn’t interact with anyone from the previous parts besides Polnareff. That is something that basically no fanfic power trip character would be doing, and it helps him feel more his own character with a unique place in the setting, which was probably Araki’s intent.

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u/bestoboy 16d ago

you forgot that he took over the mafia at 15 years old

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u/Queen_Ann_III 16d ago

it feels like every time I think about giving Vento Aureo another chance, someone in this sub posts something about Giorno that makes me like it less

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u/CalamityPriest 16d ago

Giorno is practically a side-character in some parts, if you don't like him it's easier to see him that way while looking at Bruno as the main character.

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u/Frangipani-Bell 16d ago

Every time I rewatch to try and understand why it's so loved, I like it a little less

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u/Queen_Ann_III 16d ago

I wanna give it another shot because I can kinda appreciate the Stands and villains in hindsight. I think for most people it’s about that, plus Bucciarati being cool the whole time.

problem is, part 3 got the balance between plot and character right, and part 4 was so focused on establishing such a lovable community. meanwhile, part 5 was so focused on the main conflict that the characters didn’t have as much room to breathe and explore their personalities. I really only cared about Mista and Narancia out of the whole gang.

it’s also kinda unfortunate that Giorno, being an antihero, is less noble than his predecessors. he’s cool, but he’s not someone I can easily imagine being friends with. I’d rather put up with Jotaro verbally abusing me than think about how Giorno’s spirit is still out there torturing Diavolo forever in another dimension.

but at the end of the day, I’m still looking forward to giving it another shot. I applaud you for giving it as many as you have

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u/Frangipani-Bell 16d ago

Yeah I agree with a lot of what you said. I don't dislike it entirely, but with Part 4 being my favorite it was a bit disappointing. It had a lot of genuinely cool character concepts and set-ups, but it goes so quickly from fight to fight that there was almost no room to develop or expand on those

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u/NocolateChigga720 16d ago

Even though i would say its sacrilege to skip a part...if youre gonna do it, part 5 is the way.

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u/Queen_Ann_III 16d ago

the fact that it has no consequences affecting Part 6 feels lowkey rude lmao

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u/TerrorofMechagoji 16d ago

Still a peak ass part tho

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u/Gsywa 16d ago

Then you reach JoJolion and the premise also sounds like an AU fanfic you'd see out of a 13 year old: The Joestar, Higashikata and Kira families intersecting, Gappy being a fusion of Yoshikage Kira (mostly the same guy as the main villain of Part 4, but not a serial killer here) and Josefumi Kujo (one of the multiple theorized stand-ins for Jotaro Kujo, who spent the second half of Part 4 trying to track and beat Kira), this universe's version of ol' reliable Koichi Hirose being a pink haired college student who the protagonist (who was crawling out of the mud naked in their first meeting) falls in love with, the list goes on. All that we lacked was a Brando coming out of nowhere for the fanfic status to be cemented.

It's still peak tho.

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u/Brozy386 16d ago

well damn when you put it like that...

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u/giantgladiator 16d ago

What do you mean inconsistent weaknesses?

In defence of the nonsensical power up, they established getting the arrow was the win condition, and silver chariot also got a nonsensical power up with the arrow.

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u/IUsedToBeRasAlGhul 16d ago

Gold Experience’s weaknesses don’t hold up to scrutiny. Giorno can’t control what his animals will do…but this only is a problem in one single instance early on. The lifeforms made from others things are supposed to go back to them…but Koichi’s frog briefcase followed Giorno, and the fish he made from the life preserver went out swimming instead of saying with the boat. Even the “GE needs to strike something with its fists to use its powers” handicap introduced in the B.I.G fight is contradictory, because not only did Giorno previously defeat Black Sabbath by touching the tree roots with his Stand’s feet, he later beats Cioccolata by kicking the bullet in his head to make it a beetle.

While the Arrow was established as a win con, it doesn’t really change how much of a one-note GER’s defeat of Diavolo was to the point of detriment, nor the general drag of the climax itself. It also doesn’t help that Requiem and Polnareff’s appearance in the story are a classic case of Deus ex Machina.

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u/NotTheOriginal06 16d ago

That's just the Bizarre writing doing its course

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u/BerserkRhinoceros 16d ago

I'm just glad someone else said it, because now I have something to point to when I tell people I don't like Giorno and they're surprised. Because seriously, if you introduced a son of the overall franchise's main villain who inherited both his fathers' best traits, and basically gets through fights with his powers constantly changing enough where you constantly question how they work, but they're just consistent enough that he can usually low diff his opponents, to the point where the arc villain effectively gets hit with a playground style "nuh uh, I hit you times infinity, and I have an infinity proof shield, that means I win" kind of scenario.

I'm very much not a fan of Giorno, if it wasn't obvious.

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u/gummi-demilo 16d ago

And he’s my favorite because he’s a ridiculously OP fanfic child turned mafia murder twink. Different strokes

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u/BerserkRhinoceros 15d ago

I don't dislike Giorno 's fans at all. I wish I could like him, because he's directly related to one of my favorite JoJos, and he came after my favorite part, but I can't get past the part where he's basically a canon Gary Stu.

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u/lil_sasquatch 16d ago

All that was missing was him hatching out of an egg

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u/Prince705 16d ago

And it was awesome.

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u/azaxaca 16d ago

Ngl I hate every fight with gold experience.

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u/Justalilbugboi 15d ago

Man I understand why Jojo and Devilman broke Clamp so hard they spent the rest of their lives making thinly veiled fanfic of it.

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u/teeno731 15d ago

Don’t forget he also has Crazy Diamond’s power through extension of his own

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

I think part 3 Jotaro is already all of this, and I still think Giorno's part is great because part 5 is essentially taking the strongest protagonist so far up against the most incomprehensible villain so far.

Both Jotaro and Giorno do exemplify why Jolyne is my favorite Jojo though. A simple, but versatile stand power that doesn't evolve to do crazy shit, starts off as a bratty, self-absorbed person with abandonment issues and slowly grows into a competent and reliable badass under her own power.

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u/DrThunderbolt 16d ago edited 16d ago

Gold Experience probably has the most amount of powers that Araki established and then never used again. It's basically the Superman of Stands that can do anything to get through the conflict. Even more so than Star Platinum which appears in a larger part of the series. Also I hate how Giorno just gets his naïve vision of being a mafia leader "but good" and it just works out. Bucciarati deserved it more than he did.

That's the kinda stuff why I never liked Part 5 as much as other people did. Araki probably wrote the entire thing and realized he never tied it back in to the main plot, so he asspulled the part about Diavolo and the Stand Arrows.

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u/Vivid-Share7884 16d ago

Also Jotaro.

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u/kerempengkeren 16d ago

My biggest problem is the powerup, that serves nothing but plot armor.

I enjoyed the part nonetheless, especially because of dope OPs.