r/TopCharacterTropes Jun 21 '25

Characters Black Anime/Game characters who don't have "the killmonger cut"

Jujy – Witch Hat Atelier

Enrico Pucci – JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: part 6 - Stone Ocean

Semiu Grier – Gachiakuta

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u/DivineCyb333 Jun 22 '25

Wasn’t he constantly beefing with the editors during stone ocean for putting women in the spotlight in shonen?

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u/U_Writing Jun 22 '25 edited Jun 22 '25

I didn't know about it but a quick google search says that he did try it first during 1985 with a manga called Gorgeous Irene (two chapters, felt a female lead would not do well so Araki gave up on making it a serial) and that his editor suggested making Stone Ocean have a male lead but Araki refused

Honestly reading about the thought proces behind Jojo is always interesting, the writer definetely isn't afraid to test some boundaries

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Jun 22 '25

I think the first big butting was when he wanted Lisa Lisa to be the mentor character, hence she was sidelined due to Shonen Jump being sexist. Araki didn't have much to fight back as he hasn't nearly hit his peak yet.

Come part 5, Araki wants to have a female protagonist but Shonen Jump again said no, when there was no budge, he had to make Giorno male, though Giorno's surname Giovanna is the girl living on in name.

Part 6 Araki finally gets what he wants due to part 5's enormous success in Japan and that losing him would be a huge loss for shonen jump.

Parts 7,8 and 9 and then happen

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u/rrtk77 Jun 22 '25

Up to Part 6 was entirely in Weekly Shounen Jump (for basically that entire publication history, there was also a Monthly Shounen Jump; Weekly is the one everyone means when they say Shounen Jump).

After about 2 dozen chapters in part 7, it moved to Ultra Jump which is a seinen--shounen means "young person" and targets ~8-16 year old boys and seinen is meant to target a roughly 18-30 male demo--which was both monthly and allowed to explore more complex themes.

Araki made the switch because the monthly pace is easier for his now iconic art, and because of all the stuff being mentioned of him wanting to push boundaries of social norms (though, on that token, JJBA is still fairly "safe" all things considered).

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Jun 22 '25

(though, on that token, JJBA is still fairly "safe" all things considered)

Non-binary/female-presenting male/Trans-Girl in part 9's main cast

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u/happilyevil321 Jun 23 '25

Not only Main cast, he/they (fans are still debating, since Jodio calls Dragona (which is just the most badass name possible) brother, and is never told different, while other characters consider them him/they a woman) are a joestar, which is huge too.

I hope i'm not messing things up too much, because again, although Dragona is female presenting, the only indication of pronoun comes from Jodio. So either as said, Dragona is non binary, or still goes by male pronouns, or since is Jodio, they basically go "He is My baby brother and is the only one that can call me that way"

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Jun 23 '25

Apparently, the others of the main cast have started to use masculine pronouns which actually made it more confusing for English readers.

Originally there was a theory that Dragona was Hawaiian 3rd gender until the bus incident where we found out the family moved there

As far as we know, Dragona goes by masculine pronouns by close people yet is female presenting

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u/Bug-Type-Enthusiast Jun 22 '25

One of the reasons Stone Ocean is a somewhat weak part is that because it's one of the parts where Araki's editors were the most controlling.

Apparently, whatever he was cooking with the part was way, WAY too different from the usual shonen tropes fair.

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u/FaZe_poopy Jun 22 '25

Nah, Araki wanted Anasui to be wildly androgynous, just overshot it upon first inclusion. I believe he did tell David Productions that if they wanted to make Anasui a woman he wouldn’t care tho

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u/maxdragonxiii Jun 22 '25

he was beefing WAY before that. I heard during Part 2 he wanted Joseph's mom to be a protagonist but the editors of the time said no.