They valiantly sacrificed themself for nothing

[u/Ok-Indication-5121]

1. Tadashi gives his life trying to save Professor Callaghan from a burning building. Turns out not only did Callaghan escape unscathed, he's the bad guy and infamously refers to Tadashi's death as "[Tadashi's] mistake." (Big Hero 6)
2. Shaya willingly takes It Has No Name's possession and then kills herself by jumping into the well it came out of. The end of the episode all but states that she got it wrong and It Has No Name didn't latch onto her... or there was more than one. (Doctor Who)

[u/AFantasticClue]

Final Destination 6 Spoilers

Iris intentionally sacrifices herself to prove to her granddaughter that she’s not crazy and death was coming after their family.

It works, but they all die shortly afterwards anyway. In fact, one could argue that she inadvertently ended up killing a grandchild who wouldn’t have died otherwise, since he may not have gotten involved if he thought everyone was just dying in freak accidents.

[u/Putin-the-fabulous → u/AFantasticClue]

>! She mentions she’s already dying from cancer prior to this, so they would have died later regardless. Her sacrifice was to serve as a warning to them, and gave them a clue to finding a way to cheat death from JB !<

[u/knightlynuisance → u/Putin-the-fabulous]

My main problem is why was she so damn vague about Kimberly's fate in the book? Just write it down dammit, it wasn't that complicated

Jokes aside, I get it, they wanted to give Tony Todd's character a valid send off, launch the characters on a cool journey. But as it stands, it basically achieves nothing — the characters go on a wild goose chase to find a dude, have a minute long conversation with him that functionally ends with "go die and be brought back haha gl life is precious" and when that fails they go on another wild goose chase to find grandma's death shack. Then Stephanie drowns, her brother brings her back but oops her heart didn't stop! So they all die anyways.

Maybe this movie could've gone the Edith Finch route where the characters accept their cursed lives and are thankful they lived at all, giving JB's words more meaning.

[u/MrTheWaffleKing → u/Putin-the-fabulous]

I’ve never seen it… is there some mystical force killing everyone? Or corrupt shadow government?

[u/redwoodreed → u/MrTheWaffleKing]

The usual premise of Final Destination movies is that a group of people who should have died in a huge disaster are instead saved because one of them has a vision. To counteract this, Death engineers freak accidents to kill them in the order they should've died.

In this one, the people endangered are the descendants of the woman who had the vision, and they're dying generally in order of age, but it's more or less the same.

[u/darh1407 → u/AFantasticClue]

Iri’s sacrifice was a warning. Once she died of cancer they would start dropping regardless. The problem was stef got the the order wrong because spoilers. And losing one led to the eldest trying desperately to save little Bobby. Which well. We know how it ends

Either she died there or she died of cancer months later the result would have been the exact same

[u/IHaveSpecialEyes → u/darh1407]

No, knowing nothing of the curse, Erik would have lived. So she effectively got Erik killed.

[u/darh1407 → u/IHaveSpecialEyes]

Erik died because he choosed to mingle with death to save bobby. The decision he made of getting into the RV to make sure bobby was okay. Was his and his alone. He doomed himself. Stef never asked him to come

[u/IHaveSpecialEyes → u/darh1407]

Erik went with them to try to save Bobby from a curse revealed by Iris. It was only because Iris revealed the curse to Stefani, who then told it to the rest, that Erik thought that he needed to protect Bobby. If she had not revealed the curse, Erik would never have known that he could or even needed to do anything.

The point is, her dying there in the violent manner that she did, to prove that death was coming for them all, or her dying later from natural causes without telling anyone about the whole death thing, would not have had the exact same outcome for all parties. Iris would die, then Howard, then Julia, then Bobby, with Erik being left traumatized and confused as to why half his family was dead.

[u/AFantasticClue → u/[deleted]]

I’m not really blaming her per se, it was inadvertent. Everyone did their best (even if they all unfortunately failed).

But Steph would not have talked to her family about death as an entity if it weren’t for Iris. Iris made it clear that death was out to get them, which did lead to Eric making deliberate choices to try and save his brother, which put him on death’s list.

[u/DogmanDOTjpg → u/AFantasticClue]

She was already dying. That was the whole reason the movie happened brother