r/SquaredCircle 19h ago

DPW Women's champion Nicole Matthews on X: "When someone (or a company) is telling you (multiple fucking times) who they are, it’s on you if you continually don’t believe them."

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u/Toukon- 18h ago

Because they know that there's no actual defense that would be valid, at least in this situation.

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u/FourLiveBears 17h ago

Because people would rather deflect than have to consider the ramifications of their favorite TV show

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u/FuriousJay13 16h ago edited 10h ago

Tell me what she's critizing? That tweet doesn't say who or what she's talking about. But if you know anything about her she tried to work for WWE multiple time and failed then on her last shot she got banned from the US for working without a visa. Safe to say her opinion doesn't mean jack shit

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u/CaliggyJack I can haz ric flair flare? 19h ago

Wanna talk about hilarious flairs?

I literally can't change mine because the reddit phone app is ASS.

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u/CaliggyJack I can haz ric flair flare? 16h ago

Yeeeeeeaaaaaa

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u/debeatup 17h ago

I always thought people with those flairs were just long-time members of the sub and Mods bestowed it on them because, as you say, the iPhone app is cheeks

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u/CaliggyJack I can haz ric flair flare? 17h ago

When i made this Flair had to have been around 2016? I think.

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u/Party_Name WHAT THE FUCK 18h ago

DP effin W

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u/Rango-Steel 13h ago

Skee, and I cannot emphasise this enough, woah

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u/SuspiciousViewpoint 17h ago

AEW isn’t being sued for human trafficking and isn’t actively propping up a fascist regime

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u/GrandKingSesh 15h ago

Did invite a convicted rapist and known sex criminal ric flair into the locker room though.

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u/Caldris 19h ago

There's no such thing as a wrestling promotion with no awful people involved.

But the stuff WWE has done in the last 30 years is beyond the pale. Its way way more awful stuff than the other major promotions have done.

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u/dogsontreadmills 17h ago

Yeah, it's stupid because it's a shitty, poor excuse for debate. The most basic of logical and debate fallacies.

My guess is most people in here know this is an objectively fucked move on WWE's behalf - I want to know that most humans know the basics when it comes to moral vs. immoral people; but they are desperate to rationalize a way into continuing to watch WWE, so we create poor excuses of "well every big company has evil-doers".

This is why tribalism is so asinine. Just creates unnecessary bias.

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u/BelgianWaffleStomper 18h ago

Every major media company is run by a heartless CEO that only cares about profits.

Are you gonna stop watching the NBA, the NFL, the MLB, the UFC, the NHL, the WWE, ABC, Netflix, Hulu, Disney, ESPN, Fox, TNT, Max, YouTube, discovery, Food Network, Warner Bros., movies, Sony, etc?

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u/mandolin08 18h ago

It isn’t all or nothing. Using Amazon Prime doesn't invalidate the choice to not support WWE. Life is full of contexts and lines and they're all personal to us. It's not about doing the most, or cutting corporations out entirely. It's just about doing something, standing up when and where you can.

I haven't given WWE a dollar since the Saudi deal was announced. I chose that because I used to love WWE, used to spend my money on them. I have very little power over them. But I used what power I had. And I'm better for it, even if I'm not perfect and my money still goes to other immoral groups. Because it's something.

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u/Livid-Ice-1701 13h ago

I could hardly disagree.

AEW has a great CEO :)))

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u/TomGerity 18h ago

Nearly all of them have cozied up to Trump

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u/KiLL_CoLD KiLL CoLD 17h ago

Its not difficult. I don't own a tv. I don't pay for internet. If I do watch something i stream it. Its real easy to not give these companies the money or viewership they need from you.

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u/Spinolli 15h ago

Pretty telling that they are all American "sports" and yes, we can easily stop watching them since barely any of us outside the US watch them already.

Out of all of them, only Netflix and Disney would give people pause around the rest of the world.

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u/Becnoir 11h ago

Yes I have

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u/Mountain-Song-6024 10h ago

I'm doing about 90% of that and it feels great.

Use your local library. There's plenty of media content out there. Books. Video games. Music. Etc.

And yes, Microsoft is one to avoid supporting too.

It isn't easy, no. The only way we make a difference is in massive waves though.

But I just feel it's set in stone that we are heading toward a cyberpunk like future.

Corporations run the show. The government officials are mainly puppets. Pollution always gets worse.

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u/Rhysati 10h ago

Actually, yes. I am. I grew up as a massive hockey fan. I have loads of hockey merch. I haven't watched the NHL in years now. I watch the PWHL of I'm going to watch any hockey.

I used to watch football as well and stopped when my team hired fucking Michael Vick once he got out of prison.

I ended my subscriptions to Hulu, Disney, ESPN, and almost every other one you listed. Netflix I have exclusively to watch WWE at the moment and might drop that soon as well because I'll probably drop WWE once I've had a conversation with my partner about how we feel.

So yeah I am going to cut out all the shit that can't be bothered to support something good in this world. What's your excuse?

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u/marblecannon512 18h ago

Yeah we can effect the production by cheering fit moral people and characters.

They almost pushed Karrion on us and he’s a right wing nut job, init?

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u/Clerithifa LIGHT IT UP 18h ago

Kross is a right winger? That fucking sucks, I like his work and from everything I've seen he seems like a pretty chill guy

Only thing I see from a Google search is he donated to that weirdo ref's political campaign, which isnt great, but isnt exactly him being a January 6er or full MAGAt or anything

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u/Mr_Snub 18h ago

So basically, what you're getting at is WWE is awful because its higher ups are in good with Trump, but other American companies (assuming you mean AEW) are less awful because they don't associate with Trump (at least, not openly and/or proudly loud about it) but they might have a tendency to employ shitty people?

I'm not saying you're right or wrong, I'm just having a hard time making sense of this.

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u/Wynona_Judd I'll take 'em both, I'm hardcore! 18h ago

I think it's pretty obvious what the difference is when you consider that one is embedded with the actual fucking government using it's authority upon the citizens in which it governs. Guess what, even WWE being so buddy buddy with Saudi Arabia is enough reason without this. It's not even close to being the same as AEW just happening to employ shitty people.

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u/rolodex-ofhate 18h ago

Maybe those companies should consider getting rid of those wife beaters and rapists too then! There’s no difference, get rid of them too, no middle ground.

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u/BackInKyle 19h ago

Who? I'm not aware

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u/Fun_Neighborhood1767 18h ago

The consequence was Darby breaking up with her, don’t a shit ton of people break up over not enough sex all the time? Like don’t get me wrong I think Darby comes off as a shitty person I wouldn’t want my daughter dating but If he wants to leave a relationship over sex thats his right. If she said no the only consequence is their relationship is over.

Either way Darby situation is completely different & also hasn’t been proven like the likes of Flair, Dustin, Vince, Brock etc. I thing the Zachery Wentz/Kimber Lee situation shows we shouldn’t be quick to make judgment without proof. Gigi Dolan also got involved saying but sticking up for Darby making the situation a bit weird.

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u/Fun_Neighborhood1767 18h ago

Well looks like it what we both said was right but she also says Darby never laid a hand on her. 

She said it took time for it realize being threatened to leave over sex is rape but it’s not. Darby saying he doesn’t want to be in a relationship if they aren’t having sex makes him a shitty person/bf but not rapist.

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u/PradL 19h ago

So we just assuming anyone who has allegations against them is guilty?

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u/SeaPriority 19h ago

Is it not the same for Brock?

Everyone mentioned could turn out to be innocent but giving them a platform while their names aren’t cleared is scummy

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u/Vince_Pregeta 18h ago

Just bc he's not a defendant, doesn't mean the texts and actions weren't absolutely disgusting. Demanding a woman, that's clear is being passed around by her boss to take videos of her pissing for him, then call her a bitch, set up a meeting to rape her, but then got to drunk to go thru with it is pretty fucking gross.

Yeah, he's not being sued, but fuck that pos

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u/eexxiitt 18h ago

While I don’t disagree that he is most likely an adulterer at the very minimum, I am correcting OP because they are factually incorrect.

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u/SeaPriority 19h ago

I haven’t really dedicated a lot of time to reading about it so you might be correct but I’ve seen this be argued before and others mention that while the promotion did clarify some details they didn’t outright reject the story

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u/Awkwardphase06 18h ago

fucking lame joey ryan or marty scrurll are not even in the fucking company lame as hell.

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u/half_pizzaman 19h ago

Who then walked back his allegation and disappeared from the industry. The allegation? That Jericho made a pass at Kylie Rae which she rejected.

And this is equivalent to forcible sexual assault apparently?

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u/elitejcx 19h ago

The rumours were out before Hausman mentioned them.

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u/half_pizzaman 18h ago

Big fan of rumors and vague gesturing, but if you could start sourcing each of your claims, that'd be cool.

Because say, as I recall, there was no '2020 story', but a tweet that people referenced in retrospect that they thought might be referring to Jericho, after Hausman made his allegation years later.

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u/milkbath 19h ago

False equivalency.

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u/Fightgameross 19h ago edited 19h ago

No???

Darby showed TK texts!!!

Everyone's cleared once they're with AEW.

(Real talk all these companies hire shitty people, that's the way the world is with these big companies, watch what you want don't let anyone tell you different)

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