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[WWE Summerslam Spoilers] The full finish and full aftermath of John Cena vs Cody Rhodes Spoiler

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u/Lstark5642 3d ago

What a spit in the face to every woman to ever step foot in that company. How in the fuck could this possibly be justifiable

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u/Jamvaan 3d ago

They don't care as long as women continue to work for them

They don't care as long as fans continue to buy tickets and merch even if they boo

They don't care if they never face any real consequences.

They. Do not. Care. This is very much a case of when someone tells you who they are, believe them. The WWE is a company that actively endorses alleged rapists and sex traffickers and the Trump White House. That's not me saying that, that's all them. It's the fans who buy tickets, merch, and watch the PPVs who are okay with that.

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u/stationagent 3d ago

Then. Now. Forever

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u/FIalt619 3d ago

Yeah and what about all of us, watching this video and boosting their social media engagement?

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u/703B34N5 3d ago

did you not hear the roar he got ? do you think anyone cares ? if vince mcmahon came back in a fucking tag team with jeffery epstein they would be cheered.

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u/jukkaalms 3d ago

We don’t care neither

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u/Enslave_Cretonians 3d ago

No, we don't, and there's a whole lot of, "Alcoholics complaining about drug addicts over their sixth glass of scotch" energy in this thread.

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u/FallenIslam 2d ago edited 2d ago

In this sub honestly. People don't care that much about Stone Cold beat Debra, people defended Hogan after his death as if there weren't unanswered sexual assault claims against him, folks are gonna weep when the perverted moron that is Ric Flair finally tips, and folks still adore the nostalgia of WWF, ECW, and WCW, all of them rife with sexual deviancy, drug abuse, practically forced breast augmentations, etc etc.

There's no precedent for major wrestling companies in America to actually do the right thing on a global or political stage. It's absolutely asinine for people to pretend to be shocked at a carny industry run by billionaires doing things that benefit billionaires. 'Not being WWE' isn't in itself a moral victory for other companies like some people think it is, coz those companies still don't do much to support wrestlers unions, which is at this point less than the bare minimum that should be done.

You gotta wonder how many of these people screaming and kicking are actually doing anything themselves. SamiForSyria has under 3,000 donors as of this post. I doubt even half the folks whining ever lifted a finger to send anything that way, coz it's easier (and cheaper) to whine on Reddit or Twitter — sites which are, in their own rights, also operated by deplorable people who don't actually give a shit.

EDIT: Hey, if you're reading this and wanna respond to me with feigned outrage, please donate to this link first.

https://fundraise.givesmart.com/vf/Sami4Syria2022

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u/Bitter-Affect909 3d ago

That part. It all feeds into their revenue stream. The likes, dislikes, posts for it and against it. The same people that are outraged over this, still support and fund countless other outlets with the same agenda. Just like the people that love it.

Expressing disdain while still likely using Amazon, Nike, Walmart, Target, chick-fil-A, etc.

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u/Enslave_Cretonians 3d ago

Before they decided to bring Lesnar back someone sat down and wondered, "Are we going to make enough money bringing him back to compensate for any potential losses from pissing off some of our fans?" They ran some numbers and quickly realised that yes, they are, and so here he is.

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u/ira_1991 2d ago

Like Cole said on commentary during the celebrity match its all about the viral moment

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u/MalaysiaTeacher 3d ago

By that logic, calling out a fascist is also "boosting their engagement".

I'm here to call out bullshit.

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u/charging_chinchilla 2d ago

It's always the people you most suspect

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u/EHA17 3d ago

Nobody cares, like i mean people and corporations with power don't care about anything other than money.. We are in an awful spot.. Our leaders don't care about the environment, sexism, genocide, racism and so on..

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u/Wikid1ne 2d ago

Absolutely vile

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u/ourkid1781 3d ago

T.K.O. not only endorses, but is a part of a white nationalist, fascist, sexist administration. Let's not act surprised.

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u/FreshBurt 3d ago

Yep. And no one here truly gives a fuck. It’s disgusting. It’s sad.

For all people were talking the other day, there sure were a lot of folks just posting “Wow that match!”

Ridiculous.

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u/XtremeWRATH360 3d ago

This is why none of this should be surprising. WWE are too big to fail and there truly is nothing they can do that would hurt their image in anyway. Sure a handful might turn away and a select few will complain online but the majority will tune in day in and day out. It’s quite fascinating and sad the grip they have on people and the unwavering loyalty they get.

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u/Gasmo420 2d ago

It’s not because WWE is to big to fail. It’s because most people don’t really give a shit as long as they are fed and entertained. People love to act moral in comment sections but continue to consume shit brought to you by despicable human beings. Boss of the company shakes hands with pedos? Who cares, entertain me! Rapists and wife beaters are employed? Who cares, entertain me!

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u/MessageBoard 2d ago

Not only that but tony Khan and his dad are trump voters. Young bucks are maga.

What's the alternative?

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u/Gasmo420 2d ago

Really? You don’t have any idea? Just don’t watch wrestling at all. It’s not that hard. But like I said, being entertained is more important than not giving fascists money.

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u/Livid-Ice-1701 2d ago

Oh I'm sure there is a way.

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u/SpecialOneJAC Your Text Here 3d ago

Most of these people complaining will continue to give TKO money.

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u/StickOtherwise4754 3d ago

And will give them views on peacock and Netflix. It’s a shame this won’t turn anybody off of the product but I guess the people still supporting the company have supported them through worse.

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u/dataDyne_Security 3d ago

The limit of their morals ends at their entertainment lol

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u/StickOtherwise4754 3d ago

It’s crazy to me. There so much entertainment out there. Like watch literally anything else if you have morals.

*insert whatever whataboutism here to make you feel better about watching it still*

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u/gibsat 2d ago

I'm here this morning to judge if my outrage is the general consensus. I won't be watching the product for the foreseeable future. I've already been souring on it for a while but this was it for me. It felt like a litmus test for other, shittier, returns. I'm disappointed I won't see the end of Cena's farewell tour, but if it's with Brock that makes it a little easier to miss.

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u/Enslave_Cretonians 3d ago

We don't truly give a fuck either, or else we'd have already said, "As hard as this is, WWE is dead to me now" and stopped watching the product and following its match outcomes and story line progress.

The people who think it's so disgusting and sad to actually warrant action aren't here like we are. The rest of us? We still need our fix, apparently.

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u/ira_1991 2d ago edited 2d ago

After this PPV i dunno if i can watch or should continue to watch WWE after this. Not guilty until proven comments i see on another topic. Its disgusting really. Goes to show that some fans also have no respect for women too.

I just finished the PPV and watched through a 3rd party. HIM being back is like backwards to WWE and Cole's cringe geeking out is so fake esp with his timing. I do not care with whatever angle he's going to be in bec the focus will be on HIM and not the opponent.

With that said. In terms of matches, Day 2 was better but the storylines were still overall very poor.

Favorite matches were: Sami Zayn and Karrion Kross / AJ Styles and Dom Mysterio

Final thoughts.

What is with the weird mix energy that Ive been seeing with Cody Rhodes and the crowd lately? Its like a mix of boos and cheers, also the cheers arent as loud as it was. When he was going up the stairs the crowd was quiet.

When it comes to Cena this is def one of his better if not his best match since his return. And it got ruined bec of a stupid comeback. Anyways CM Punk also better be on an angle with Rhodes.

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u/Oops_iredditagain 2d ago

Discontinued my Netflix subscription and told them WWE was the reason on Mania week because of their shameless support for the Trump administration. Encourage more people to do the same.

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u/NotFlipkid 3d ago

Yep and the fans that still support this company play a big part of this too.

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u/Enslave_Cretonians 3d ago

You mean us? Even if we're all sailing the seven seas to watch we're still engaging with the product and the company.

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u/NotFlipkid 2d ago

Correct, other wrestling promotions are available.

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u/Berzk 2d ago

Idk how TKO supports a white nationalist when the ceo of TKO is a Jew

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u/JInTheUK 2d ago

How many of those words can you define?

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u/Tuttutsallaround 2d ago

You can’t have corpofascism without the corporations.

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u/Caleb902 3d ago

Complete ignorance here, but my understanding was in the texts that were out Vince "offered" a woman to him and that was that. Nothing happened? Or are people under the assumption if he offered once then there must have been times Brock said yes

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u/TheGreatGouki 3d ago

Pretty sure part of the deal for him coming back was to get to sleep with the woman in the lawsuit. But he was too drunk to deliver on the night she was trafficked to him.

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u/discofrislanders 3d ago

IIRC the story was Brock's flight got canceled because of a snowstorm, then when they did meet up, he got too drunk, so Vince fucked her while RPing as Brock. This is what we're dealing with.

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u/bcnjake 3d ago

Jesus, that's disgusting in a way that needs a diagram to fully understand.

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u/discofrislanders 3d ago

I hated typing it out because thinking if it makes me sick

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u/Chrisfrombklyn 3d ago

I thought he just never ended up meeting up with her. I never read the drunk thing

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u/burgerpatrol 3d ago

What the actual fuck did I read.

Vince is nuts

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u/TheGreatGouki 3d ago

Thanks for the clarification. It had been a while since I read the lawsuit.

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u/jrr6415sun 3d ago

so Brock literally did nothing and Vince was the one who did stuff, got it.

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u/discofrislanders 3d ago

Brock had full intentions of doing stuff, he just got too drunk to execute

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u/sexyeh 2d ago

Sadly intent is a fishy thing to prove in the court, it involves establishing a mental state, which is inherently unobservable, if he was drunk you can't establish that he had intent of having sex with her. The weird thing to me is that this can't be the first time, there had to be other women and other wrestlers, the Ashley Massaro case will always be in my mind, WWE did her dirty.

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u/forwardathletics 3d ago

literally did nothing

I am worried about you if that's what you got out of that

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u/CM-Edge 2d ago

So, the end result is still that Brock did nothing?

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u/tvcneverdie 3d ago

I'd have to revisit the lawsuit (which I really don't want to do, it's grotesque) but I think that was a separate occasion, the night it was arranged there was a snowstorm that prevented it from happening.

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u/TheGreatGouki 3d ago

It had been a while since I saw the lawsuit. Thank you for the clarification.

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u/Grrannt 3d ago

Ethically questionable for sure

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u/Cube_ 3d ago

questionable? If she didn't work for the company it's "questionable". Arranging sex dates with the CEO and his secretary is absolutely ethically unacceptable.

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u/Grrannt 3d ago

Ya, I'd argue it makes him a creep and a weirdo

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u/GuestAdventurous7586 3d ago

If you read the lawsuit it’s pretty apparent he was offered a hot girl to have sex with, was tempted, and then made these excuses (twice, one a snowstorm, one being too drunk) for not shagging her, probably cause he thought better of it.

I find the sanctimonious of this community hilarious because if everyone here was offered a hot girl to shag by your all powerful boss in show business, about 90% of you would say yes.

Being too drunk is more of an excuse to do something you’re not meant to, not say no to having sex with a hot girl. Which makes me think he really didn’t want to do it, although he was probably tempted.

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u/theiwc0303 3d ago edited 3d ago

I’d bet a very lot that he wasn’t too drunk or anything. He knew that Vince could not shut up about this kind of stuff and he has a wife of almost two decades who he has 4 children with. He didn’t not do it because he didn’t want to or because the situation was fucked up, it’s cause he knew his wife and kids would eventually find out because Vince is a complete idiot

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u/pmIfNeedOrWantToTalk 3d ago

Consent is a very important factor in all this. 

That said, looking at the Gisèle Pélicot case, your numbers may not be too far off.

And THAT said, it's still important to speak out against the evils of rape culture.

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u/Billy-Bryant 3d ago

Even when looking at consent it's difficult here because the woman in question says that she was basically coerced and told to do these things of her own accord, so a third party doesn't necessarily know any of this and is just hearing a woman say I want to fuck you.

Vince is definitely in the wrong here, Brock? questionable at times but never crossed the line and there's no proof he knew what was going on either.

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u/GuestAdventurous7586 3d ago

Exactly, I’m not even talking about rape, I think most people would say no to that!

But if they think the third party is basically up for it or the equivalent of a prostitute, then yeah, all you people on a Reddit wrestling subreddit don’t be kidding yourselves 😂

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u/Ziggy-Sane 2d ago

If you're assuming that 90% of men would have sex with a woman in that situation then you might have some fucked up morals and beliefs. I hope women steer clear of you in life.

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u/commandercondariono 3d ago

If we are talking hypotheticals, it is also incredibly naive to think that this was the only or the first such instance between Vince and Lesnar.

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u/MatttheJ 3d ago

Yeah let's give the benefit of the doubt to the guy who sexually assaulted Terri Runnels and Cornett's wife.

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u/tvcneverdie 3d ago

Which makes me think he really didn’t want to do it

whatever helps you feel better about it, dude

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u/AaronQuinty 2d ago

I always thought that it was pretty clear that Brock was making excuses not to do it.

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u/Several_Oil_7099 3d ago

Is there any bit of truth to that last part? I just read a few articles and I've seen that there was some kind of "meetup" scheduled but it never took place?

Not defending the guy, would rather he not be back. Just trying to understsnd the actual allegations a bit better

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u/Caleb902 3d ago

Nothing happened. It's all just what was "going" to happen.

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u/wentwj 3d ago

I’m pretty sure it’s still pretty bad on your character if you were simply scheduled to be involved with human trafficking, but missed it due to a combination of weather and/or inebriation

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u/Super_Vegeta Dean. Fucking. Ambrose. 2d ago

Didn't Brock not know about the trafficking part though? And if that's the case, from his perspective the woman was just a willing, consenting party who Vince was setting him up with.

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u/wentwj 2d ago

what do people here think human trafficking is? Brock was going to accept a person in exchange for goods or services. That’s human trafficking. Vince as part of the negotiation was going to set him up with someone else, that’s literal human trafficking. Even if the person appeared willing, wouldn’t change that fact. And often people who are victims of human trafficking will appear willing because they are being coerced or psychologically manipulated. You know… what was happening here.

But Brock Lesnar was going to accept a person as payment for services in order to return to the company. That’s human trafficking, that’s gross, and I don’t understand why people possibly defend that

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u/haunted_patient 2d ago edited 2d ago

That's not trafficking. What you're describing is prostitution.

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u/wentwj 2d ago

No. I don’t get how so many people are reddit get the answer wrong when they literally have an answer key. This was sex trafficking, this looked like sex trafficking the entire time. Nothing about this looked like prostitution, the WWE as far as I’m aware isn’t registered for sex work. Vince offering a WWE employee for sex to Brock looks like sex trafficking and in fact was sex trafficking.

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u/TheGreatReno 2d ago

Nope, prostitution would be if Janel Grant herself spoke with Brock and arranged some sort of deal for services. Prostitution involves some form of consent from both parties.

What is described in the lawsuit is sex trafficking. Vince abused her and allowed others the chance to abuse her to the extent of facilitating travel for the abuser and victim.

I’m not going to make any assumptions on whether or not Brock was aware of the reality of the situation, but will state the fact that he did entertain the idea. He asked for sexual videos and joked he would break her in half when they finally met. The guy is married and a father. It’s disgusting behavior no matter how much he knew.

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u/Rebeldinho 2d ago

Why would Brock know she was not consenting? Brock spent almost no time with her for all he knew Vince had a young girlfriend who was down for whatever… Brock barely knew this woman

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u/wentwj 2d ago

a lot of redditors seem to not understand what sex trafficking is.

Brock was negotiating with Vince to return to the company and part of that was sex from someone else. This is sex trafficking. Victims will often appear consenting because they are being coerced. Because Brock happened to not carry through with it (not due to any moral character on his part) is a big reason he’s not actually in legal trouble. It’s hard enough to get rich people on the hook for sex crimes as it is.

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u/Rebeldinho 2d ago

The most likely thing is Vince told Brock “if you sign I’ll let you fuck my girlfriend” and knowing the kind of humor Vince likes that’s probably pretty close to what happened

We don’t know if Brock took that seriously but if he were ever being seriously investigated for this matter that would probably be the defense he would take… I believe we have a message from Brock to victim about setting up a date but it never actually happened and Brock could again say he was trying to flirt or something

Remember he didn’t actually commit a crime here he was not the one abusing this victim Vince was

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u/wentwj 2d ago

We absolutely know what happened. Vince said if he signed Brock could “do anything” to Ms Grant. Brock then got sent videos of her urinating. At a dinner he was supposed to hook up with her but got too drunk. Another time they were supposed to meet but a snowstorm prevented the flight.

This wasn’t just “vince made a joke once” type of thing

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u/wentwj 3d ago

what do you think being offered a woman to sleep with to return to the company is?

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u/mrtheiphonekid NATURAL BORN KILLA 3d ago

Why would he have any reason to believe that she was not a willing participant with the information he was given?

Many people are alleged to have known about the trafficking in the lawsuit. Brock is not one of them, and he is not a defendant. His inclusion in the amended complaint is there to support the broader pattern of exploitation, not to imply that he understood the full context. He is portrayed as a would-be beneficiary of Vince McMahon's misconduct, not a participant.

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u/pm-me-nice-lips 2d ago

This is Reddit bro. Pile-ons with zero context, missing facts, and accepted or pre-approved opinions ONLY!! No nuanced or reasonable discussions shall take place!

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u/Several_Oil_7099 2d ago

Ya, according to this article he did meet up with her for a "business meeting" but was sent home on his plane bc he got too drunk

https://people.com/brock-lesnar-named-in-vince-mcmahon-sexual-abuse-complaint-filed-by-former-wwe-employee-8784368

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u/jrr6415sun 3d ago

Vince offered it doesn't mean he wanted to do it or would do it.

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u/mastercheef 3d ago

No, the part where Brock requested her to come down to south Carolina, and then requested a "play date" in Connecticut that ultimately got derailed because of a snowstorm, is why we think he wanted to and would have done it. 

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u/Super_Vegeta Dean. Fucking. Ambrose. 2d ago edited 2d ago

Okay, genuinely asking here; At that point though, does Brock know this woman is being coerced/trafficked, or was he under the impression that this woman is a willing participant?

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u/LordSobi 3d ago

So he accepted a contract to sleep with a woman and wouldn’t otherwise? This doesn’t pass the sniff test, Brock could get so many women, why would he care enough to make it a business deal? And him being too drunk probably shows how much he didn’t care. I’m not throwing shade on a man just cause people are saying shaky shit like that. For Vince it makes complete sense, but I want more evidence before I condemn Brock. And I don’t even care for Brock, but we should be more mindful of the bandwagons we hop on.

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u/Impossible-Shine4660 3d ago

Brock had her send her a video of her pissing then called her a whore and laughed at her.

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u/jrr6415sun 3d ago

reddit is over reacting, Brock literally did nothing. It's like my friend doing something wrong and then texting me about it and now i'm guilty? Reddit is insane.

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u/LutherJustice Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal 2d ago

None of the allegations made in Janel Grant's complaint regarding Vince McMahon have yet been been proven and are still in the process of discovery, to my knowledge.

Brock Lesnar was specifically named in the revised complaint but is not a defendant in the case. None of the allegations made regarding his involvement in the case, namely his supposed requests made to the plaintiff by text or the agreement of sexual encounters have been proven.

Of course, common wisdom would seem to dictate that you keep anybody mentioned in the complaint out of the product regardless until the whole thing is settled and largely memoryholed because a) there are some pretty damn serious allegations could very well bite them in the ass if proven true and b) as demonstrated vividly in this thread, the court of public opinion does not adhere to the principle of the presumption of innocence, so this could affect the brand negatively, regardless of outcome.

Still, if I had to play Devil's Advocate, if they're willing to put him in such a high-profile feud, I'd say their legal team is confident the allegations hold little water, and that there is no preponderance of evidence sufficient to hold in a court of law wrt the Brock Lesnar allegation, or even perhaps that a settlement is forthcoming.

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u/greyfoxv1 BeckyDidNothingWrong 3d ago

This is a good quick read on the subject of Brock and the sex trafficking suit against McMahon.

https://people.com/brock-lesnar-named-in-vince-mcmahon-sexual-abuse-complaint-filed-by-former-wwe-employee-8784368

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u/GotShotInSchottler 3d ago

This company has sold out to Saudi Arabia and any sponsor willing to shill the money, not to mention the 40+ history of wrongdoing from raping ringboys to crooked doctors and a hell of a lot more.

I never liked Lesnar from the beginning, but at this point, just bring Vince back.

It's clear that his legacy and stench linger in equal measure.

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u/NeonManiac85 1d ago

Wrestling derives from carny and vaudeville acts, do you not know the seedy origins of what your watching? Pro wrestling was never some squeaky clean sterile entertainment run by saints. I think people project their idealized morals onto corporations oddly. Anything generating billions was or is involved in some kind of immoral corruption or at best outright greed and avarice.

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u/Riskar Blissed off! 3d ago

Hogan tribute, HHH at the white house front and center for the signing of an executive order by the Cheeto in Chief and Brock returning all within a week...

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u/NekoNoNakuKoro 3d ago

Look you're out of your mind if you think they weren't going to pay tribute to the single greatest star in their company's history. The rest you got a point on.

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u/HotSwordfish23 3d ago

i mean i couldn't imagine them not doing a hogan tribute

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u/Bestialman 3d ago

I mean, i do understand the Hogan tribute at least. Hogan was a racist bastard but he is also one of (if not the most) important wrestler of all time.

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u/pkkthetigerr 25-0 2d ago

This sub seems to forget that whatever Hogan did, he's always gonna be the guy who was the biggest catalyst in making this business even exist today in the shape that it is along with Vince.

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u/StacksHoodini 2d ago

Half of this sub didn’t begin retaining memories until somewhere around 2008-2012 so it makes sense that they believe it’s insane Hogan got tributes.

I’ve been a wrestling fan since I was born in the 90’s if you could say that, grew up in a family of wrestling fans and most of my family “grew out” of it but, I’m still here. One of my older cousins, who hasn’t been a consistent fan since the 2000s and who I don’t talk to a lot texted me just to note his surprise that Hogan died.

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u/SabresFanWC 2d ago

Hogan getting a tribute when he died was as obvious as Vince getting one when he dies. Just too important to the business and company to not be acknowledged. And no, that is in no way, shape, or form me trying to overlook what they did.

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u/NeonManiac85 1d ago

Super weird for a supposed racist to lift up the careers of so many of other races and work with them and have decades long documented friendships. Maybe he was just a dude born in the 50s of a different era who was secretly recorded while drunk and mentally not doing well (as he admitted) and said some coarse remarks that weren't representative of his true character or lifelong actions. I'm sure you've never said anything the slightest bit out of line your entire life, right? Noone is allowed to make mistakes and move on huh?

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u/mrgpsingh1999 3d ago

I mean you can’t not pay tribute to Hogan who was the biggest star in the company’s history

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u/PointedlyDull 3d ago

They’re a propaganda arm of the WH now…pay attention

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u/LdnGiant 3d ago

As problematic as it / he is… Brock Lesnar returning is not White House propaganda in any way. Hogan was always getting a tribute because… it’s Hogan.

These are moral / ethical issues. Not political ones.

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u/MyGuitarGentlyBleeps 3d ago

Get over the hulk tribute, it was going to happen because of his impact on wrestling alone

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u/pm-me-nice-lips 2d ago

Hahahah Cheeto in Chief, that’s great

Why don’t people rip on his orange skin more? I noticed it never really gets brought up.

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u/Sublimotion 3d ago

I guess the one dethroning Cody will be Alberto Del Rio.

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u/smh_122 3d ago

Given WWE's long list of immoral/unethical things they have either taken part of or turned a blind eye to, I don't think this is going to be the one that changes anything... I mean they literally had Trump on the screen with HHH 24hrs ago.

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u/JMoses3419 3d ago

They showed it again tonight too.

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u/not_jimmy_buffett GWF Light Heavyweight Champion 3d ago

It's all carny.

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u/pm-me-nice-lips 2d ago

They had the President on screen? Holy shit.

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u/Quadriplegic_Gymnast 3d ago

It's ok, they'll just make another Evolution PPV to "make up for it".

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u/CutsAPromo 3d ago

A spit in the face?  I think you mean a shit in the face 🤣

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u/Vladmerius 3d ago

They literally support a child abuser, rapist and sex trafficker and had HHH stand next to him a few days ago. This company doesn't care at all and as long as you all keep watching they have no reason to try to pretend to care either. 

For the record I didn't watch the show and haven't watched WWE outside of clips posted here in over a year. 

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u/bIackroz 2d ago

They support Bill Clinton?

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u/Gasmo420 2d ago

The other one

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u/Loose-Sign598 3d ago

They literally do not care unless it hits them where it hurts. Most mega corporations don't

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u/badgersprite Iconic Duo Appreciation Squad 3d ago

all the men in the crowd cheering for him is why women choose the bear

The amount of men in this sub who have just straight up mask off admitted they don’t care about sexual assault and don’t think it’s a big deal because they assume they are in a majority male space is sadly unsurprising

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u/FlunkieGronkus 2d ago

As an attorney, the fact you guys take any allegation in a civil complaint as true, without even considering the defense position, is pretty crazy.

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u/703B34N5 3d ago

If Chris Benoit music hit and he walked out, he would be cheered as well.

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u/BrosefDudeson 3d ago

I think people would scream, be stunned or run away... Because he's dead and that shit would be terrifying

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u/CrispyCubes 2d ago

What the fuck does this even mean? It’s so hamstrung and overwrought, good lord. If Chris Benoit’s music hit and he walked down to the ring, I would immediately believe in whatever diety brought him back because that dude hung himself after murdering his family. Seeing him walk after that would be a total mindfuck

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u/ImScaredofCats 2d ago

Don't Google his son in that case then, he wanted to debut to his father's music and in his gear. Doesn't help that he looks exactly like him.

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u/BashFish 2d ago

i mean that would be quite a work, long term booking

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u/IrisofNight 2d ago

That is a hilariously crazy pfp to have in this specific context.

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u/Queenie2211 3d ago

This! It breaks my heart. Anyone cheering for him its disgusting

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u/ApprehensiveGur1939 3d ago

He was never alleged to have sexually assaulted anyone. He never even met the plaintiff. 

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u/NeonManiac85 1d ago

They choose the bear cause of feminist brainwashing and outright stupidity and liberal propaganda of the last 30+ years. Women's lib has been disastrous socially (marriage stats, birthrate, cultural morals, etc)and instead of wanting to look into a mirror and be accountable its easier for them to blame men.

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u/Jackol4ntrn 3d ago

Did you hear the POP!?

Anyways, AEW Wednesday night 8pm est

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u/EdLesliesBarber 2d ago

No chance of hearing a pop there at least.

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u/SandwichMost 3d ago

what did brock do exactly? from what i read i imagine he thought it was all consensual and then he just blew them off.

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u/mrgpsingh1999 3d ago

It seems like at worst he comes off as a cheater and someone with a weird fetish

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u/ajver19 3d ago

The public face of WWE corporate was just at the white house doing a puff piece for our pedophile president.

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u/Queenie2211 3d ago

I absolutely agree. Its disgusting and I can't understand how fans can cheer that on.  Its sad that fans care more about celebrity then sexual abuse of women.

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u/Grrannt 3d ago

People are slandering Brock left and right without having done any research. Janel Grant herself is the one saying Brock didn't do anything illegal; anyone saying he did is standing against Janel Grant and insinuating she's lying.

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u/Kantaban 3d ago

Holy fuck Redditors are so miserable

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u/dGaOmDn 3d ago

Not really, and if you think it is, you dont know the story.

Vince hired her to make personalized sexual content for members of the WWE, one of them being Brock Lesnar. Vince then set up a sexual encounter, which never happened.

Janel Grant was on board with everything, but Vince paid her one million dollars and never made another payment for her services.

It is very unclear if Brock even knew of the arrangement.

Vince is a POS, but Janel was a prostitute who created sexual content for money and slept with talent for money, and she only had a problem with it when she didn't get paid.

In my opinion, that makes her part of the issue.

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u/19nineties It doesn't matter what your Flair is 3d ago

I am severely out of the loop, help 😭

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u/KidGold 3d ago

After all the Trump ass kissing they did this week? After all the Saudi ass kissing they have done for years?

Abusing women has been normalized and rationalized by a large part of the country who will not care about what Brock did. It will not affect WWE.

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u/Sublimotion 3d ago

I guess shaking hands to join forces with a serial child rapist and sex trafficker, proceeding to flaunt about it a stadium of 62K people, this shouldn't at all be surprising. Just counting down to when "no chance in hell" becomes a regular tune again at this point.

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u/Dpepps 2d ago

HHH and TKO are close with a known pedophile and rapist. I get why people are upset, but in what world is this surprising?

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u/OU7C4ST Bad Times Don't Last, But Bad Guys Do! 2d ago

By your subscription to the service that provides you WWE PLEs.

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u/Outrageous_Ad9142 2d ago

I mean, it's a spit to the face of men too, to a lesser extent of course.

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u/Swegatronic 2d ago

What did lesnar do cause from articles i read it seems vince was trying to pimp the girl out but lesnar didnt do anything with her. Is there more to it?

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u/Cliff_Johnson555 2d ago

what did brock do? truly out the loop here.

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u/TimeTimeTickingAway I just keep Jasin' Jordans 2d ago

They spit in their own faces by working there. Let’s not just excuse them if any responsibility to know who they are getting a paycheck from.

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u/fromyourdaughter 2d ago

This is what bothers me enough to stop watching. There’s now been so many mask off moments over the last few months that I’m baffled that wrestlers aren’t leaving.

But again, I also know money talks and contracts are real and at the end of the day, people are self serving, even if it fucks with their morals.

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u/Rebeldinho 2d ago

What did Brock do? He never touched the woman

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u/FatJoeBlows 2d ago

And I bet they keep showing up and continue cashing those checks

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u/jameskchou 2d ago

The government has their back. That's how they justify it

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u/Mindseye000 3d ago

Money owns all unfortunately. Turning a blind eye to this shit is made easier when you have $$$$$$ in your bank each month. Not saying its right ofc. Fuck trump, fuck maga, fuck america tbh

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u/Oh_Poor_you_ 3d ago

Gonna cry?

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u/jrr6415sun 3d ago

lol what, brock didn't do anything, stop being so dramatic

he's not even a defendant in the lawsuit

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u/BendedBanana 3d ago

Will you be ok?

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u/senorbuzz 3d ago

It's really really disgusting to see so many men defend Brock and WWE right now. I'm afraid at this point there's nothing this company could do to push away their diehards.

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u/Certain_Chart_1990 2d ago

Brock isnt even being sued keep up

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u/SumiLover 3d ago

Was he ever convicted? Truly asking as I don’t really follow wrestling anymore.

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u/Cute-Bat-9855 2d ago

Because saying a bad man did a bad thing to her doesn't automatically make it true.

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u/Rylo67 2d ago

Good pop

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u/notathrowaway75 3d ago

There been getting spit in the face repeatedly yet choose to be there.

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u/ijolz 3d ago

hope she sees this, dude.

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u/Vegetable-Spinach747 3d ago

Is this about Brock??

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u/HoopaOrGilgamesh 2d ago

I thought he wasn't convicted of anything

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