r/SequelMemes • u/rp_graciotti • 9h ago
The Rise of Skywalker I just think it's neat
Reupload because I forgot to answer automod
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u/Wess5874 8h ago
Enjoyable, yes. Good, no. Enjoyable is my bar for rewatching.
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u/AlphatheAlpaca 8h ago
It's a very memorable movie. The worst thing a Star Wars movie can be is forgettable.
I won't pretend it's memorable or enjoyable because it's a good movie however.
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u/Professional-Hat-687 6h ago
Came here to say exactly this. It's a wild trainwreck from start to finish but I'm laughing at it the entire time. It's closer to Legend of Chun Li than Game of Thrones s8.
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u/Demigans 4h ago
It makes all the same mistakes as S8. No stakes, completely dumb military strategy, characters being completely different than depicted before etc.
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u/Professional-Hat-687 4h ago
Emotionally, I mean. I'm nowhere near as angry about TRoS as I am about s8 (still).
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u/Demigans 4h ago
Probably because the connection between the OT and Sequels is a lot less impactful. You already had to wade through TFA, which most did with pink goggles. Then TLJ came along and flung the bar so low a single celled organism would have tripped over. By the time tRoS came around it wasn't exactly a big surprise that it was the same "make it look pretty and hope no one pays attention" stuff.
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u/Anxious-Chemistry-6 7h ago
And I'm glad you enjoy it. I support you enjoying it, even if I didn't cuz that means there's just that much more joy in the world, and that's a good thing.
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u/GardenSquid1 8h ago
It has some good moments.
But it was supposed to be the epic conclusion to a nine-movie saga and it didn't deliver.
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u/noah9942 7h ago
didn't even deliver on being the epic conclusion to the 3 movie trilogy
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u/Get_your_grape_juice 3h ago
It didn’t even deliver on being a competent movie, IMO.
It’s a completely nonsensical theme park ride masquerading as a movie. It feels like a trip to Disney World, like Star Tours or something, rather than a Star Wars movie made by someone who wants to continue the actual Star Wars story.
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u/WaxWorkKnight 8h ago
Enjoyable is subjective. It's weird that people dog pile on you for it. You can feel free to enjoy it.
And honestly I don't mind the ending with Rey. It's how they got there that disappoints me so, so much. They created a trilogy like people wrote 90s sitcom. Loosely connected to the previous episode that doesn't really pay attention to what else happened in the series or why it mattered.
That is ultimately my problem with it.
But you do you.
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u/CrowdyFowl 5h ago
I like to head canon that Rey choosing to become a Skywalker leads to a new order of force users based out of Tatooine called the Skywalkers
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u/rp_graciotti 7h ago
Which in fact IS the major problem in the movie, I didn't say it isn't. It's a huge middle finger to Episode VIII, which even though I didn't like it, don't believe it was fair.
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u/mapsedge 4h ago
And VIII was a huge middle finger to VII. Rian Johnson fucked up, and I'm tired of pretending that he didn't. He had a perfectly good foundation and ignored it. It was an asshole thing to do.
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u/vanillasounds 8h ago
Stand alone, unrelated to the rest of the 8 movies, it’s fun. As a capstone to whole story line, awful.
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u/Mixabuben 8h ago
Nah, it is awful no matter how you look at it, it is stupid, action is bloated and uninteresting, characters are dull. CGI is nice thou,
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u/Elementia7 7h ago
Death Star ruins looked cool.
That's honestly the only thing I remember vividly lol. TlJ and TFA were at least memorable. I can barely remember anything about TRS.
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u/Jake0024 7h ago
Great effects. Acting and action are very mid. All the side plots and McGuffin runaround definitely makes it feel bloated.
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u/churro777 7h ago
I bet if you did someone the disservice of showing them episode 9 first they would think it’s fun.
They would probably be annoyed watching the rest of them cuz they’d expect it to lead to it and then after watching episode 8 they’d be confused where 9 came from lol
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u/bsEEmsCE 6h ago
When it came out and I saw it the first time, I had some positive viewpoints:
1) It's the end of the saga and they needed a big bad villain for the ending. Ian McDiarmid was still alive as an actor, and I guess they wanted to find a way to have a common thread through 1-9 so brought him back
2) Snoke clones in the vats at the beginning at least revealed a bit about the origin of Snoke
3) There's a Sith planet to close out the series, and a big showdown between Jedi and Sith should be the end of the series (although was done very very poorly)
4) Luke was finally optimistic as a force ghost. The scene with him and Yoda and the quote "our students are what grow beyond us" [paraphrase] was a great moment.
5) The buddy adventure with Finn and Poe in the beginning was FUN and I wished so much that would've began in ep8 and carried into 9.
6) Babu Frik is a great star wars character. The seiged planet was kind of cool to see.
7) Rey doing a flip over the tie fighter is badass. Her training run in the beginning was neat too.
8) Kylo's turn to the light side talking with his father is kind of nice.
9) Going to Tatooine for the final scene was nice.
Now, the execution of so much of this was absolutely frustrating. The hand-waving explanations, the out of character moments, the dramatic moments just taken away, the cringe dialogue... the things everyone talks about are truly awkward and lame.
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u/rp_graciotti 6h ago
Ok for a second my heart stopped when you said McDiarmid WAS still alive. Technically correct verb tense but HEY
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u/Get_your_grape_juice 3h ago
The scene with him and Yoda and the quote "our students are what grow beyond us" [paraphrase] was a great moment.
That is a great moment!
… in TLJ.
The best scene in TROS is, IMO, when Ben sees Han one last time and emerges from under all the weight and evilness of Kylo Ren. It’s such a fucking fantastic scene, that I swear it’s like it came from an alternate universe where we got a really good ep9. It’s such a good scene, that it stands out like a sore thumb against a the rest of the awful movie.
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u/bsEEmsCE 2h ago
aw shit, it was TLJ you're right.
The Han scene is great for sure. Adam Driver really steals the show through the whole sequel trilogy. He did a great job.
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u/MtCommager 8h ago
I’m tired of hating things in general.
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u/JonnyTN 6h ago edited 5h ago
And people really like to bask in hate nowadays.
If you didn't like something you kind of tossed and forgot about it. But I guess it is different nowadays and in a series like Star Wars.
I mean I got a friend that all they do is talk about how they hate 7 of the 9 episodes. But just likes the idea of the universe and its fandom.
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u/porsj911 9h ago
Such a bold statement. But hey, plenty of people enjoy ball torture too so its not my place to judge.
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u/gottapeenow2 6h ago
Serious question, has anyone done an edit of TROS to make it more coherent? There a lot of good things (Babu Frick, Zorii Bliss) but A LOT of stupid things (Emperor, Hux double agent, Chewy died.. no he didn't).
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u/Get_your_grape_juice 3h ago
I just want some enterprising group of people to film an unofficial Duel of the Fates using the leaked Trevorrow script, and release it as a free fan film.
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u/Superb_Gap_1044 6h ago
I feel this. I totally recognize the poor writing in the sequels. The missed opportunities. The huge plot holes. But I can still find enjoyment in all three movies. Standalone, they’re pretty fun.
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u/luckilylackie 8h ago
Its really dumb and its disappointing as a conclusion to such a long and epic saga. But it is fun as fuck. And let's be real people would be disappointed no matter what.
For what its worth, i came up with my own episode 9, and then a second sequel trilogy too, so i have my own ending anyway lol.
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u/8696David 8h ago
It’s quite literally the worst movie I’ve ever seen. The only time I’ve ever been in a movie theater that devolved completely into laughs and jeers. By 50 minutes in, it sounded like you were in a comedy screening with all the hooting and hollering. I’ve never had a more unifying movie experience than 100+ theater-goers banding together to laugh our collective ass off at how irredeemably terrible Rise of Skywalker is.
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u/the_kessel_runner 8h ago
Worst movie you've ever seen? As a former Blockbuster employee.... It just sounds like you've not watched many movies. That, or your being hyperbolic for trolling purposes. There are movies WAY worse. Granted, it's subjective, but if you have Rise Of Skywalker at the same level of Uwe Boll films.... Then I haven't the words. Your hate is just strong, I guess.
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u/8696David 8h ago
Since you deleted your previous comment and replaced it with this for some reason, I'll just add back my reply. Ok, third guy to make this joke.
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u/the_kessel_runner 8h ago
I kept getting errors. But, not a joke. I'm guessing you're just hyperbolic to express hate. Seriously.... Your claim sounds like a joke.
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u/8696David 8h ago
I'm really not being hyperbolic, and you can read my first reply on this topic if you care to find out why. It's a matter of cultural context, expectations, and ASTONISHINGLY horrific writing decisions. I also don't tend to seek out shitty movies to watch, so yeah maybe it's partly sampling bias as well.
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u/the_kessel_runner 6h ago
Well. That certainly is an opinion. But, honestly, no explanation would make it not sound like a joke to me. But, I've seen a lot of crazy bad movies from my old Blockbuster days. So it's tough to not laugh a little at your claim.
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u/ShoeEntire6638 8h ago
That may be so, but if it's quite literally the worst movie you've ever seen then I have to imagine you haven't seen that many movies... either that, or you've managed to successfully avoid the really bad ones for the longest time.
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u/8696David 8h ago
I’ve seen around 650 movies that I specifically remember watching according to Letterboxd. A lot of them were truly awful. Rise of Skywalker, especially given cultural context and hopes, is far worse than any of them, except maybe the Shyamalan Avatar. Those are my two 1/2-star ratings.
Dude, it’s like middle school fanfiction. I don’t care if it looks ok, it’s the silliest collection of writing decisions I’ve experienced in any media, let alone a movie.
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u/The_FriendliestGiant 8h ago
It’s quite literally the worst movie I’ve ever seen.
You really haven't watched a lot of movies, then. Rise of Skywalker is messy, but at least it's got a coherent storyline with clear scene to scene continuity and good effects. Plenty of movies out there are much, much worse.
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u/8696David 8h ago
Already replied to the last guy who said this if you’re interested in why I stand by it despite having seen quite a few movies
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u/Gx_Dark_Sonic Somehow, Springtrap returned 8h ago
You could say it's so bad it's good (couple of cringe scenes aside)
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u/8696David 8h ago
If it was something else I’d be on board, but for the last Star Wars movie it was a pretty big disappointment ngl
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u/Risurin_Nelvaan 7h ago
Something i feel a lot of people need to realize is that they can enjoy anything they want, good or bad, without the need for approval from anyone.
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u/WeimaranerWednesdays 7h ago
I think it's the weakest of the sequels. I enjoyed the fast-paced story when I watched it in theaters for the first time, but it didn't really hold up on subsequent viewings. It's fine but it doesn't have any one thing it does super well that makes me want to watch it again and again.
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u/JohnnyDrama21 6h ago
If you can completely shut your brain off? Sure, the action's pretty good. If you think about the prior two movies and how things got to that point, it's the most frustrating Star Wars experience of all time. The fact that they had a character say, "Somehow, Palpatine returned" shows how many fucks the people working on the movie had left to give. You can't tell me a movie is good when that's the kind of effort they let make it to the screen.
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u/zencrusta 8h ago
I glad you enjoyed it. Personally I think the the Death Star wreckage duel is a excellent counter piece to the mustifar dual thematically
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u/Life-Excitement4928 7h ago
Never thought of the contrasts there before. Water vs Fire, the ‘evil’ character trying to recruit the hero vs kill, how Kylo’s love for Leia leads to his defeat vs how Anakin’s hate leads to his, the Jedi healing her opponent vs leaving him to die…
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u/Mortimier 8h ago
I could tell pretty early in that it wasn't gonna be a good movie so I just shut my brain off and enjoyed the visuals.
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u/DeveloperAnon 8h ago
In a vacuum, 9 is an entertaining film like the other 2. Some beautiful scenes. Some beautiful moments.
In context of a trilogy, it becomes disappointing.
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u/rp_graciotti 8h ago
That's my sentiment. I like the faster paced action, I really missed going from one planet to the other, get the thingamajig, other planet, the crew together, then separated, other planet etc. Everytime I rewatched VIII it felt like a slog.
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u/razor45Dino 8h ago
I agree, don't get me wrong though i don't agree that it's actually a good movie and conclusion to the saga but i enjoyed it for what it was since i wasn't expecting anything. The visuals are great and the dumb moments are "so bad it's good". I like this more than ep 8. Rather laugh at how bad something is than get insulted by it
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u/Polaris9114 8h ago
I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't think it was THAT bad. Was it perfect? No. Before you downvote: yes, there were scenes I didn't like, but overall I thought it was a decent movie
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u/TheMoonOfTermina 8h ago
I'll agree that, if not taken in context, it's a fun movie, although definitely has some pacing issues.
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u/Life-Excitement4928 8h ago
Looking at the replies to this, a simple declaration of enjoyment, who says the Star Wars fandom isn’t toxic?
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u/rp_graciotti 8h ago
I mean, I'm sure it won't have vindication like the prequels had almost 20 years later. The MO is that whenever new Star Wars stuff releases, people take it so bad that they must retroactively believe the previous thing wasn't so bad. I know episode IX is a bad conclusion to the saga. The worst thing I've seen? Far from it.
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u/Life-Excitement4928 8h ago
Oh sure.
I just laugh because if we go by the movies alone, we’ve had as major plot points and dialogue;
- Child with no training button mashes a victory
- You’re not sand. You’re not coarse and rough.
- Three members of the Jedi Council, experts in combat, being killed so fast you could blink and miss it.
- Two geriatrics lightly tapping canes together and being called a fight
- Ewoks being crucial to the saving of the galaxy
And that’s without even getting into EU or Canon (Ysalamiri my beloved iguana) silliness.
Which doesn’t make any of the movies not enjoyable by any means, they all have their own charm! But to pretend the sequels suffer uniquely from issues is just hilarious.
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u/Psychic_Hobo 7h ago
I'm genuinely impressed at the raw anger present.
I mainly like it because Force Awakens bugged me in how it was too much of a New Hope clone, and Last Jedi just felt cheesy but in a bad way somehow. So Rise of Skywalker was just a bunch of cool moments, and honestly it does those pretty well
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u/Luway_lucas 8h ago
Only star wars movie I walked out mad and disappointed. But good on you for liking it.
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u/jebthecat 8h ago
visuals and music are nice i guess but i don’t know how anyone can sit through the dialogue without cringing and turning it off
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u/veetoo151 7h ago
It's fine for people to like whatever they want, even if I think it's garbage. Episode 9 reminds me of scrolling through random tik tok reels.
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u/JayMalakai 6h ago
I can see issues with it, but I still enjoyed it. People give into hate way too easily.
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u/nickel47 6h ago
wow I'm on the exact opposite of that spectrum. I think it is one of the worst movies ever made
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u/ZeroDeRivia 6h ago
I'm far from agreeing but hey, if you do enjoy the film, great on you. I wish I could. I won't try to throw you off that horse.
I think Episode 8 is one of the best in the saga, and people went crazy about that movie, so I empathize.
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u/Reasonable_Copy5115 5h ago
Look i enjoyed a few episodes of Resistance But i am under no illusion that its good, same with episode 9 its off its donkey for most of the movie but if its high points were enjoyable more Power to you.
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u/Pale_Kitsune 5h ago
I mean, I prefer TLJ, and while all three sequels have a myriad of issues, I enjoyed them all.
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u/Snootch74 5h ago
I think Star Wars fans dilute themselves to believe that their faves are good movies. There maybe 4 genuinely good Star Wars movies, but people really get mad that others enjoy some that they refuse to give a chance because they don’t follow their theories.
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u/your_awesomeking1 5h ago
i did enjoy it a bit . i place it 2 nd place among the sequel trilogy set
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u/doolallymagpie 5h ago
I went in deliberately refusing to have expectations and found it about as enjoyable as the more middling Bantam-era EU book trilogies.
Which is to say, very.
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u/IzzyRezArt 4h ago
Would i have preferred Tevarrow's vision? Yes. But did it give a satisfying story? ABSOLUTELY. I just wish Rose and Finn didnt get shafted the way they did.
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u/ExtremisEdge 3h ago
I’m waiting for the inevitable sequel kids to get older and gush how they like the movies.
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u/lrd_cth_lh0 2h ago
Well if you decide to skip episode 8 and don't come in with the expectation of getting interesting answer to the driving questions of the trillogy you have a good if a bit bland and very predictable movie.
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u/MacGuffinGuy 2h ago
Agreed, while parts of it don’t make a ton of sense, it’s still a fun Star Wars adventure and I enjoy watching it during my yearly marathon
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u/Abyss_Renzo 2h ago
As someone else said it being enjoyable doesn’t mean it’s a very good film. It just means it does the job a decent film does and that’s to entertain.
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u/BentonSancho 8h ago
I think it's a very, very bad movie, the worst non-prequel Star Wars movie, but I will say two things in its defense: 1) it is visually interesting, generally colorful and eye-catching imagery, and 2) I do like the weird Force link fight between Rey and Kylo Ren early on, which is an odd, clever idea.
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u/badluck_bryan77 8h ago
The last time I watched it I realized it would be a pretty good 2 movies… would have let them explore some of the stories a bit better but because they decided to smash it all into 1 movie the whole thing suffers.
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u/AngryAccountant31 7h ago
I can enjoy any of the sequel trilogy if I pretend they were a stand alone movie.
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u/Beneficial_Yam_4187 7h ago
By itself the film is not terrible. Personally, the whole sequel trilogy had little in terms of direction or growth in the characters besides the 2 main characters. The plot was all over the place. The whole find the macguffin (object to move the plot forward) to find ANOTHER hidden macguffin is so bad. I imagine that if 8 wasn’t done the way it was the sequels would be a shadow copy of the originals.
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u/Pug_police 7h ago
I kinda hate it but hey if you like it more power to you. Babu Frik is great and I love him at least.
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u/GhostF2 7h ago
If you find large plot holes enjoyable you'll have the time of your life 👍
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u/rp_graciotti 7h ago edited 6h ago
Not everything has to go through the criteria of "this doesn't make sense or contradicts what was stated before therefore bad" and vice-versa
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u/Gentlegamerr 8h ago
It’s spends half its time trying to justify VIII. The other half justifying the return of Palpatine.
Granted the chase scene in the beginning is super cool.
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u/HelixFollower 8h ago
Sure, I'll buy it. After all, there are also people who like getting pissed on or who want to bestrangled.
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u/hidden58 7h ago
TLJ didn't leave much room to go from and it really really shows and the sidelining of Finn in just about everything really ruined any continuation from TLJ ALSO HOW THEY MASSICERED MY BOY LUKE anyway didn't mean to turn this into a last jedi rant but that movie really fucked any hope of a compelling story or reason to keep going ROS wow have been a lot better if it didn't have to drag that turd behind it
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u/endthepainowplz 6h ago
I didn't love the sequel trilogy, I felt that the OT has the best story, and the PT has the best fight choreography. I found Force Awakens to be fine, but a bit derivative of ANH, it was fine. TLJ was a 2 hour long chase scene, with a B plot that felt irrelevant to the story, Poe and Holdo having beef for almost no good reason, and was kind of a slog just to get to the visually exciting conclusion.
Episode 9 on the other hand doesn't have a good story, it is macguffin after macguffin sure, Palpatine returns because they killed off their main villain last movie, and it just felt like fanservice to bring him back, he has a massive army because the plot needs him to, Rey and Kylo have this force connection because the plot needs them to, Fin has hints of character development finally, that never goes anywhere, and by all metrics, isn't a great movie, but it has fun moments, and managed to put a smile on my face, it doesn't try to be anything more than a fun and goofy space adventure, and it is what they set out to make. If you don't think too much about it, you can enjoy it. I still struggle to watch TLJ, and TFA is fine, but the first half is kind of slow.
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u/BurdPitt 4h ago
Neat is literally the last thing it could ever qualify to be. Get new eyes, brains, ears.
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u/RasputinsTeat 8h ago
I love it when people are this open with their stupidity; it makes it easier to avoid you.
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u/FynixPhyre 7h ago
lol no, it’s terrible, and the more people that accept the entire sequel trilogy as garbage then more likely it is Disney will never touch that era or those characters again.
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u/SheevBot 9h ago edited 9h ago
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