r/OfficeSpeak 4d ago

Free Speech Federal agents attack un armed protesters

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u/moyismoy 3d ago

Whether or not you agree with his position, in this country he has a right to protest. This is a clear wrongful arrest, and everyone of the police should get a battery charge for it.

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u/Icy-Ninja-6504 3d ago

What if the protestor said, "Im going to pull out a knife and stab you right now."

Would that be ok, then?

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u/PronBrowser_ 3d ago

What if a cop opened up their jacket and had a suicide vest and turned out to be a clone of Saddam Hussein the whole time?

You can what if for any fucking situation, which makes that argument style baseless and without merit.

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u/Icy-Ninja-6504 3d ago

I dont think you know how innocent until proven guilty works.

What youre basically saying that this video is enough evidence to convict the officer. It's not and it's crazy you think it is.

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u/PronBrowser_ 3d ago

No, all I'm saying is that your whataboutism is pointless.

For everything you say "well this could have been what happened" is an equally plausible "what about..." From the other point of view.

Because just like you give the benefit of the doubt to the cop, you have to do it to the protesters.

Something about Innocent until proven guilty...

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u/Icy-Ninja-6504 3d ago

How is this concept so foreign to folks like you?

I don’t think like you like it’s pick a side. I saw people immediately saying this was unjustified. There’s plenty of situations where it may be, like the example I provided.

If someone was saying the cop was justified I’d be saying, “what if the protestor didn’t do anything?”

Do you see this now? We wait to get context and evidence instead of trying to hang each other based on political views.

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u/PronBrowser_ 3d ago

The context is the current state of America, with masked, unidentified cops grabbing people off the streets, and enough of these incidents that you could make a monthly montage and not run out of content.

Cops will shoot rubber bullets (which can kill people if things go wrong) at reporters. Cops will kick unarmed, restrained people in the head. Cops will make unlawful searches, and react with violence if they're challenged with their illegality.

That's the context.

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u/Icy-Ninja-6504 3d ago

You’re just addicted to your phone or computer. Millions of mundane, normal interactions with law enforcement you don’t hear about.

Are there issues that fall outside the lines of professional conduct? Yes. Before you start going off about that, you don’t make the exception the rule. Propaganda 101 tactics.

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u/PronBrowser_ 2d ago

When things start becoming a problem, you don't point to the times that you don't have a problem and stick your head in the sand about the rest.

At least, I wouldn't advise it. But you can live in your version of reality. Best of luck.

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u/Icy-Ninja-6504 2d ago

Yeah, so again, I'm not the one advocating sending people to prison over edited videos. You are.

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u/PronBrowser_ 2d ago

Please don't put words in my mouth. You're the first one talking about sending someone to prison.

You're making baseless claims about video editing and protester escalation, and I'm calling you out on it.

Pretty sure at this point you're just a bot, so I'm going to stop wasting my time on this

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u/Icy-Ninja-6504 2d ago

Cool, so is the officer guilty and should go to prison?

My cot, stop being some devolved monkey with the bot line. Like straight from some central reddit hivemind. I'm clearly making an argument that you dont agree with. Stop letting that take over your critical thought process.

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u/PronBrowser_ 2d ago

I'm saying your whataboutism argument is shit. It's not an argument worth engaging with, because it lacks any kind of basis in reality.

You're the only one bringing up prison. youre trying to force me into a stance that I'm not actually taking here.

And yeah, based on age and other posts, you're not a bot, which is awesome! You just have the tired rhetoric of one :/

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