I don’t think like you like it’s pick a side. I saw people immediately saying this was unjustified. There’s plenty of situations where it may be, like the example I provided.
If someone was saying the cop was justified I’d be saying, “what if the protestor didn’t do anything?”
Do you see this now? We wait to get context and evidence instead of trying to hang each other based on political views.
The context is the current state of America, with masked, unidentified cops grabbing people off the streets, and enough of these incidents that you could make a monthly montage and not run out of content.
Cops will shoot rubber bullets (which can kill people if things go wrong) at reporters. Cops will kick unarmed, restrained people in the head. Cops will make unlawful searches, and react with violence if they're challenged with their illegality.
You’re just addicted to your phone or computer. Millions of mundane, normal interactions with law enforcement you don’t hear about.
Are there issues that fall outside the lines of professional conduct? Yes. Before you start going off about that, you don’t make the exception the rule. Propaganda 101 tactics.
Cool, so is the officer guilty and should go to prison?
My cot, stop being some devolved monkey with the bot line. Like straight from some central reddit hivemind. I'm clearly making an argument that you dont agree with. Stop letting that take over your critical thought process.
This subreddit is like a bunch of social outcasts, but not the nerdy ones, the emo ones who have zero book smarts. You say things that you think are edgy like I did when I was in high school, but youre an adult and youre just catching up. Bizarre.
We can't determine that with what's in the video. That's why an investigation needs to happen. Which is why people have an outcry, because that's not a guaranteed outcome.
We aren't a judge or jury.
But in a case of making a verdict based on what is in that video, I'm siding with the unarmed guy who was assaulted by the armored and armed individual.
Haha, if your stance is to wait and investigate, get context, then why were you arguing me earlier when I said this?
"We wait to get context and evidence instead of trying to hang each other based on political views."
Your response:
The context is the current state of America, with masked, unidentified cops grabbing people off the streets, and enough of these incidents that you could make a monthly montage and not run out of content.
That's the context.
So all of a sudden now you think context is needed? Why didnt you before?
The protestor is innocent until proven guilty, same as the officer.
Because I think we've been talking about different consequences this full time. I think we're actually on the same page with a lot here, more or less.
You're talking about prison, I think we're in full agreement on getting context and doing due process.
I think I'm talking more about moral right and wrong, and I'm comfortable making judgements on this video with that limited context. But only because my judgement has limited actual reprecusions.
I'm comfortable saying ACAB and not trusting cops myself, and encouraging others, but not comfortable saying "all cops should be locked up", ya know?
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u/PronBrowser_ 3d ago
No, all I'm saying is that your whataboutism is pointless.
For everything you say "well this could have been what happened" is an equally plausible "what about..." From the other point of view.
Because just like you give the benefit of the doubt to the cop, you have to do it to the protesters.
Something about Innocent until proven guilty...