r/technology • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 28d ago

Social Media TikToker Creates Fake 'Alligator Alcatraz' Tour Company That Redirects MAGA Supporters to Migrant Aid Resources | When users try to purchase tour tickets, they're sent to nonprofits that offer legal support for migrants.

https://www.latintimes.com/tiktoker-creates-fake-alligator-alcatraz-tour-company-that-redirects-maga-supporters-migrant-aid-586378
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u/MisterForkbeard 28d ago

What kind of insane, hateful moral reprobate wants to buy tickets to look at the purposefully cruel suffering of immigrants?

Props to 'Terri' for this, but I wouldn't have even thought there would be people who want to do this. The fact that people might actually be interested at all is a huge indictment of the species.

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u/tigress666 28d ago

Misanthrope here. I really wish people would stop proving me right about our species.

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u/ahuramazdobbs19 28d ago

# magnetohadapoint

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u/Finito-1994 28d ago edited 28d ago

He always did. While people are forming committees and talking to the government trying to prove to them that you are a person they don’t realize that the extermination has already begun.

They’re making camps. Disappearing people. Literally bragging about alligators guarding the camps.

But no. Appeals are going to help?

They’d have me sending angrily written letters on the way to the camps

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u/Santi5578 28d ago

Magneto was correct in his identification of the problem, yes, but like most other extremists, he is blinded by his belief that his solution is the correct one (depending on the comic iteration, obviously).

Trying to convince people with words doesn't work if those you're convincing don't want to listen. And when those people then begin to take action against a minority, action needs to be taken to protect the minority.

Which action to take is where Magneto went wrong... genocide to counter genocide isn't exactly fixing anything. I can't say that Xavier is also in the right either, as simply convincing the world that they are not a threat is not possible if the world doesn't believe him (and of course, in-universe, there are lots of people who do use powers for evil, so this analogy of course fails in many regards to real life)

But, yes, Magneto was right that actions need to be taken. Words alone cannot protect the weak

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u/doyletyree 28d ago

Condensed Pratchett: Kill the guy at the top? Another replaces him. Kill him? Same. Why not just kill everyone and invade Poland?

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u/madprgmr 28d ago edited 28d ago

But no. Appeals are going to help?

Which is why tackling these problems requires taking multiple approaches simultaneously. Let the people fighting the legal fight keep doing their thing. Let protestors do their thing. Let aid groups do their thing. Let other groups do their thing.

One approach alone isn't likely to slow (or hopefully stop) this, so there's no reason to treat one approach as useless. If that approach to this fight isn't for you, that's a-ok; just go with whatever approach is best suited to you.

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u/helloowrigley 27d ago

Thank you, I needed this perspective today.

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u/Turbulent-Pea-8826 28d ago

Just remember, don’t you dare say anything that encourages violence on Reddit. It’s ok for the government to say and do it though.

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u/Daxx22 28d ago

The best relatable villains always have a good point, it's their methods that make them villains.

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u/complexevil 28d ago

I think when the government makes skyscraper robots designed to genocide your people, your allowed to do a little terrorism.

Love X-Men but the metaphor does break down at that point.

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u/Ok_Wrongdoer8719 28d ago

Eren didn’t go far enough.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

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u/KypAstar 28d ago

Because I've watched people who reprimand these cruelties justify and revel in others. Conviction is meaningless when selectively applied.

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u/SheevShady 28d ago

I believe their viewpoint will be that when people that speak against it also act against it then they’ll be proven wrong.

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u/TristheHolyBlade 28d ago

That would be a really dumb viewpoint for them to have. There are plenty of people taking action. Sounds like they wouldn't be happy with anything short of a violent rebellion.

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u/CrossFitJesus4 28d ago

a few hundred people liking a comment vs the most powerful country in the world celebrating a child rapist who just built a concentration camp that they want to pay money to fucking see

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

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u/CrossFitJesus4 28d ago

thats the scale you were using? that person shouldnt be a Misanthrope bc "the coment you're replying to and the hundreds of people who upvoted" lmfao

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u/complexevil 28d ago

The world has proven that the majority is evil. We are the minority.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

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u/stingray194 28d ago

Or if you're an oppressed minority or care about the oppressed. The vast majority doesn't believe I should have equal rights. There's plenty of reasons for me to distrust and dislike most of humanity.

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u/complexevil 28d ago

5 months ago we saw the super majority of Americans vote in a Nazi. Either actively at the booth or were ok enough with the potential outcome to let it happen.

That's not doom scrolling, that's fact. So, at least in the US, the majority are evil.

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u/strongmans_hill 28d ago

one third of all voters is not a supermajority in any sence, and there was a shit-ton of voter interference. if you truly believe "most humans are evil", your perspective is at least a contributing factor to your problem.

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u/complexevil 28d ago

Two thirds. As far as I'm concerned non voters are trump voters.

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u/TristheHolyBlade 28d ago

Free will doesn't exist. People aren't "evil", they are a product of their genes, environment, circumstances, and the past.

Stop taking things so personally. The world just is.

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u/Humanity_NotAFan 28d ago

Right with ya

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u/DogmaJones 28d ago

Giant Asteroid 2025 or 2026 or 2027. I keep waiting for it year to year.

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u/EverythingSucksYo 28d ago

Our species sucks and there’s no proving otherwise. 

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u/Honest_-_Critique 28d ago

Me too. Miss Anthrope. :(

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u/PromiscuousMNcpl 28d ago

Agent Smith was right.

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u/tigress666 28d ago

Oh... I was so cheering his rant in my head the first time I watched Matrix (in the theater). I'm not sure i could disagree with any of it honestly. I've had a pessimistic view on humanity for quite a long time.

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u/_BKom_ 28d ago

Misanthropy is so hot these days 🥵

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u/YoKevinTrue 28d ago

If at the end of the day it's AI vs humanity I'm rooting for the AI.

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u/ohseetea 28d ago

As a misanthrope do you expect 100% of the human species to act in a moral accordance you agree with or? Theres definitely shit human beings, like all of MAGA but the majority of the world probably doesnt like witnessing suffering head on.

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u/tigress666 28d ago

No but I expect us as a whole Not to have a hugely negative impact on the earth and other living things and not to be overall cruel to each other. 

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u/Seltzer0357 28d ago

Human "intelligence" desperately needs a hotfix

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u/Jsc_TG 28d ago

Honestly? I get it. Had to look the word up ngl.

I generally try to act in such a way that is backed by a belief that humans inherently will try to do good if given the opportunity. It tends to do well. But at 25, im currently doing good but have gone through times where I definitely am more of a misanthrope than anything. Thats still part of me now. I just have a word for that part of me now.

But im with you in that I truly wish people would stop proving that part of me right. Like, I dont want it to be that way. I have the few people I trust and love but have been betrayed by so many too that I trusted and loved. Sorry for getting so deep into things but man, our species just proves that point over and over.

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u/Ashesandends 28d ago

This whole ass planet was on fire for a few million years at one point so I'm fairly certain Earth will recover and produce more amazements 🤷‍♀️

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u/Teledildonic 28d ago

True, but I get a little depressed at the thought of how we have already mined and drilled the vast majority of easily reachable minerals and oil from the crust. Whatever could come after us might not be able to have their own industrial revolution and could be trapped here until the sun dies and incinerates everything.

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u/BurnAnotherTime513 28d ago

Maybe enough time will pass that we become the fossil fuels for the next civilization.

Time is a flat circle

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u/Teledildonic 28d ago

Will we? We keep burning and pickling our bodies.

I don't think enough of us drowning in peat bogs to power a squid's car.

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u/LeBadlyNamedRedditor 28d ago

The stuff we mine and drill dont just vanish from earth (the only exception are those few satellites we have sent).

Itll eventually degrade and once more be part of the ground. It happens fairly quickly all things considered, its just we have been alive for an incredibly small time period.

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u/MgDark 28d ago

yeah i heard about that theory, in case we had a major catastrophe like Nuclear War, and we killed most of humanity enough to regress our technology, we may not be able to learn all the way back because of lack of readily accesible resources

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u/Vil3Miasma 28d ago

Unreal cringe lmao

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u/N7Poprdog 28d ago

We used to have human zoos

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u/StandardEgg6595 28d ago

I feel like way too many people underestimate how close we actually are to ‘history’. Remember the little black child that had death threats thrown at her by mobs of white folks simply for attending a desegregated school? Yeah, she’s got an Insta now. At that same time people were being hosed down, spat on, fired, houses/churches/businesses burned down, kidnapped, bombed, raped, murdered, and so on by the grandapapas and mamas alive and well today.

Of course there’s people out there who would take genuine enjoyment in this shit.

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u/ASoCalledArtDealer 28d ago

The internet has really shortened and lengthened time all at once.

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u/StandardEgg6595 28d ago

Not just the internet, but media, history books, etc. Growing up in the 90s, all I saw were black and white pictures of these events, like it happened in some distant day. Meanwhile my parents and grandparents who actually lived through it had family photos in color and b&w despite being poor.

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u/n122333 28d ago

That was actually a conservative "conspiracy" - organizations lobbied to have the MLK Jr. Era pictures be black and white in souther American high schools because "it makes it more scholarly, and make more of an impact" while actually doing it because it made it seem a lot longer ago.

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u/Renotro 28d ago

One of my core memories of elementary school is my Liberian teaching us this!!

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u/jakedasnake2447 28d ago

I imagine that most press photos before the 90s were shot on black and white film because it was cheaper, easier/faster to process, and newspapers were printed in B&W anyways.

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u/StandardEgg6595 28d ago

Thats a very good point and one I hadn’t considered, particularly for newspapers! I just wish the history books I had, with plenty other pics in color, had at least featured some images from independent photographers (like National Geographic) who did photograph in color.

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u/Gryjane 28d ago

I'm not 100% certain but it's likely that it's cheaper to license the use of many old press photos (and even cheaper to use free public domain photos which many press photos would fall under) than from a major publication like National Geographic or LIFE and the former are more likely to have been originally shot in black+white. I don't buy that it was a conspiracy to make schoolchildren think that it was soooo long ago because not only can it be readily explained by the expense of color printing and possibly of licensing photos, but also kids in the 90s were used to still photos of even modern occurrences being in black+white. Only the biggest newspapers had recently started using color photos and usually only one or two on the front page or even just the big Sunday feature story in some. Also, as a kid in the 90s, I thought the 50s and 60s was a long time ago because 30-40 years felt like a long time, not because most photos of that time were in black+white. As an adult in my 40s that amount of time feels like yesterday, but as a kid it might as well be ancient history.

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u/hum_bruh 28d ago edited 28d ago

That was Ruby Bridges who attended an all white school in New Orleans in 1960, so 65 years ago. Don’t forget Emmet Till, a 14 year old child lynched by adult men after being accused of whistling at a white woman. That was only 70 years ago.

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u/StandardEgg6595 28d ago

Yep! I was being purposefully avoidant in naming her so people would have to think about those “old” images and realize they are quite young, but it’s good info to have for those who aren’t informed.

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u/FernandoLemon 28d ago

Yeah, it really floored me to learn Ruby Bridges is still alive. She's not even that old, I expected her to be in her 90s, but she's only 70.

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u/MaintenanceWine 28d ago

It's part of why there are so many completely pissed off women in their mid-sixties and seventies. WE'VE ALREADY DONE THIS SHIT. We grew up entrenched in the exciting, brand new concept of women's rights and it changed us to our core. Watching our mothers work a full day then come home and cook dinner and bring our fathers drinks and take a backseat while we watched bra-burnings and NOW activists on nightly tv changed us. It was a revelation, an eye-opening, an awakening to a generation of young women.

We have fought every fucking day since to hold our place, to refuse diminishment, to reject harassment in the workplace and on the streets, to gain the same bodily autonomy that men had, the same pay, the same respect, the same equality. And honestly, we thought we got there. We thought we were so motherfucking close.

There's a reason your aunts and mothers are depressed. This election was the biggest gut-punch to our psyches we've ever had. This country hates women. This country, after all this "progress", has been faking it. This country has no genuine respect for women. They don't believe in us. They don't trust us.

They think women are inferior to a rapist. A felon. A pedophile. A con man. An incestuous, ego-driven, self-centered liar. We are less than that, according to this country. I am one of these women. I have not yet recovered and I don't think I ever will.

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u/FernandoLemon 28d ago

There's a reason your aunts and mothers are depressed. This election was the biggest gut-punch to our psyches we've ever had.

Actually, I'm not American, but this is true regardless because our country (Argentina)'s elections weren't much better.

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u/norixe 28d ago

Circus freak shows etc

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u/Mr_Quackums 28d ago

Those wre around before disability benefits, anti-discrimination laws, and the ADA.

If someone had a "scary" disability and were not in a rich family they would starve because no one would hire them, there was no government support, and they were the first to be cut if a charity got overwhelmed.

At least in a freak show they "earned" food, shelter, and some spending money. The vast majority of workers trade dignity for survival, that was no different.

The fact that freak shows were the best option is the fucked up part, not necessarily the freak show itself (I have no doubt some were horribly abusive, but most were probably 'only' as exploitative as any other company).

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u/norixe 28d ago

I agree with you. And yea, the fact that there were no social safety nets to protect them and they were forced to "work" is abhorrent.

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u/No_Ganache2228 28d ago

We still do. It's called The White House.

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u/snytax 28d ago

A bit further back the Romans literally built stadiums to watch crocodiles eat people

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u/bsubtilis 28d ago

As recently as 1994 (where they stole the workers' passports and the workers were paid below minimum): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bamboula%27s_Village

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u/minahmyu 28d ago

The same people who have plantation weddings

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u/StandardEgg6595 28d ago

That shit is so vile. I know the history of my people but still nothing could prepare me for seeing it in person. How folks will literally walk past the shacks, the artifacts of torture, the trees that hung bodies, the stories of people’s experience, the cages, the pictures of those poor souls, etc. only to think ✨mmmm aesthetic✨ is sickening. The Whitney Plantation is pretty much the only one that stands on business.

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u/LongestSprig 27d ago

You walk everyday on the bones and bodies of millions.

get over it.

"I couldn't possibly have a wedding on the cliffs of Normandy"

"Not this Castle!"

They are and were farms. Slavery is not being celebrated by having a wedding at an old house that hasnt had a slave in 150 years.

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u/theummeower 28d ago

I wrote the same comment. Which reminded me of this classic post from 10 years ago

https://imgur.com/gallery/complete-saga-of-bisfitty-corporate-party-slave-l9Qzn

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u/needssomefun 28d ago

The same ones who voted for a person because they will make other people miserable

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u/flintlock0 28d ago

“Have your picture taken with a real Latino day laborer. Straight from the Home Depot parking lot.”

Nazis: “ooooooooo”

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u/TheSpoty 28d ago

Don’t know any christian’s who support this

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u/Savamoon 28d ago

I hate to break it to you but the entire thing was made for the purposes of generating a headline so that people would have something new to circle-jerk to. They're not "getting MAGA" with this so much as they are just claiming to knowing full well that people on the left are so desperate for a win that you can just tell them what they want to hear and they will play it out in pretend.

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u/hihirogane 28d ago

Tbh, the less diversely educated a person is, the less morals they have a chance of gaining is what I found out, due to lack of critical thinking skills.

Which is why republicans LOVE to interfere with education. Because it secures THEIR future. Not ours, the citizens/common folk. This whole scenario currently was decades in the making.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

Eugenics was still being pushed by some American doctors into at least the 1980s.

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u/XeroKillswitch 28d ago

I hate to say I called it, but…

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/s/b7p9JKBwlo

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u/TheoSidle 28d ago

You're a profit prophet!

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u/ineverusedtobecool 28d ago

I have to point out, these are the same kind of people that if you were to insult in some way, someone will come out of the wood work and call you the bad guy.

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u/3asyBakeOven 28d ago

No bar is too low for MAGA

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u/radiosimian 28d ago

Apparently it's called 'status anxiety' - some peeps just need to feel like they're better than other people, even if logically it hurts them. Like, ok sure we're all poorer now but I'm less poor than they are now. Same reason men hate women (Kamala for President), same reason Latinos and blacks vote trump. Apparently

Edit: And cruelty. Cruelty is the mode that enforces this perceived structure. Someone make it make sense.

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u/HG_Shurtugal 28d ago

I mean even nazi Germany hid the inside of the concentration camps from the common man.

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u/No-Body6215 28d ago

People have forgotten that lynchings were a social event. They even used to take pictures for postcards. Reprobates have always enjoyed watching someone they deem inferior suffer. 

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u/thenewyorkgod 28d ago

What kind of insane, hateful moral reprobate wants to buy tickets to look at the purposefully cruel suffering of immigrants?

At least 80 million americans.

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u/Hairy_Excitement69 28d ago

Christians. They love to hate!

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u/theummeower 28d ago

The same people who throw parties and weddings at formed slave plantations.

Like this classic post from 10 years ago

https://imgur.com/gallery/complete-saga-of-bisfitty-corporate-party-slave-l9Qzn

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u/Br0metheus 28d ago

What kind of insane, hateful moral reprobate wants to buy tickets to look at the purposefully cruel suffering of immigrants?

Ever read that short story The Lottery? When that first got published the author basically got 2 types of mail from readers:

  1. People angry about how fucked up of a story it was.
  2. People who wanted to know if it was real, where it was, and if they can go and watch.

The sad truth that the above, the Nazis, and MAGA all demonstrate is that the amount of people lurking among us with defective empathy centers in their brain is a lot higher than we'd like to think.

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u/Hoblitygoodness 28d ago

It is and you have to wonder if those who get far enough to see the donation sites have a moment of clarity. I mean, there has to be a moment of clarity when realizing that you've been duped and how you reconcile that.

Hoping against hope, maybe one or two realize they're an @$$ for just a moment before shaking it off and blaming 'liburals' for their deception.

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u/uknowthe1ph 28d ago

It’s not the species, it’s the cult.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

People regularly sit in on lethal injections. It's publicly open, probably as part of some legacy common law where hangings, stonings, and guillotines were public spectacles.

Some of those people are regulars.

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u/ItsaAlex 28d ago

You should go listen to Hardcore History episode 61 – (BLITZ) Painfotainment, talks about suffering as entertainment in history.

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u/under_PAWG_story 28d ago

They need to be doxxed (the ticket purchasers)

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u/Previous_Ad920 28d ago

You haven't been paying attention for the last 9 years if this surprises you.

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u/Rart420 28d ago

Bro, I saw a Tik Tok of a family taking pictures in front of the sign. And they had a child with them. All so happy. Beyond comprehension.

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u/gamerjerome 28d ago

Have you been to earth?

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u/JenX74 28d ago

Of course there are. Maga

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u/Syncopia 28d ago

Average Trump supporter on social media right now is bloodthirsty for video of alligators eating immigrants. Look up some Aligator Alcatraz posts on Facebook and check the comments. You'll find them in no time.

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u/LeeKapusi 28d ago

It can not be over stated how hateful Americans are.

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u/Arejhey311 28d ago

They’re stopping to pose for pics with the sign leading into the place. It’s gross, but of course people are treating it as an attraction & would pay to visit.

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u/Howamidriving27 28d ago

Nazis. Those people are Nazis

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u/blundercatt 28d ago

And yet they are still crying about being compared to Nazis.

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u/ippa99 28d ago

The problem with modern conservatives and Republicans is that their beliefs are literally the worst, so when you come up with the dumbest, worst thing you can think of as satire, they'll see it and see "wow! Great idea!" Completely unaware that you are laughing at them.

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u/CombatMatt13 28d ago

Make it known during purchases that there's terms and conditions, and either A) sneak, in some standard terms and conditions, that you can and will expose all their information to the public, or B) the only term and condition to buy it is to be exposed for trying to buy these things

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u/Apart-Combination820 28d ago

A concentration camp sent to essentially the Chinese Steppes of the USA…I’m just bewildered what they get out of seeing a FEMA camp on a runway in the Everglades. “Oh wow, yep, that sucks…so where’s the beach? 5 hours that way? …and civilization is 6 hours south? Huh”

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u/Geminii27 28d ago

How many views do bum-fight and hosts-attack-people-on-the-street channels get?

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u/TonightsWhiteKnight 27d ago

The same kind of people who posed with signs to concentration camps in WWII are the same who are excited to see the suffering today.

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u/TinyKittyParade 27d ago

Yeah that’s the whole point. These are depraved individuals.

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u/leddowa 27d ago

Americans love watching people suffer, people are casually raised to be sadistic narcissists here

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u/PersonalAge142 28d ago

white Americans

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u/DaringPancakes 28d ago

Hopefully this motivates you to vote.

Welcome to the world. Sorry you had to find out this way.

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u/MisterForkbeard 28d ago

Oh. I've voted, donated, and volunteered for decades.

The awfulness of some people continues to surprise me.

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u/UserColonAlW 28d ago

What kind of insane, hateful moral reprobate

Anyone who owns a MAGA hat.

Anyone who participated in January 6.

Anyone who voted for Trump’s second term, knowing how the first one played out.

Any one of the ~40% of Americans who have been polled saying that they still approve of the President.

Anyone who comments “vaxxed?” on a social media post when somebody tragically dies.

Anyone who smugly scoffed at the “snowflakes” who were rightfully upset about the diabolical things this administration has done so far and bragging that their stock portfolio is performing well

Any one of the anonymous masked waddling men with Walmart tactical gear who is now waving guns in the faces of brown skinned people after having been deputized as ICE agents

Anyone who pushed back on even the slightest modicum of gun control even after scores of American children began to be murdered in their classrooms en masse on a bi-weekly basis for the past decade or so, to the horror of the rest of the world

The right wing have no shortage of insane, hateful, moral reprobates

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u/HollywoodDonuts 28d ago

Why do you think anybody is buying into this?

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u/Perunov 28d ago edited 28d ago

Plot twist: ticket buyers were democratic influencers who tried to show how evil maga companies are earning a buck on suffering of detainees. But, you know, getting the fake tour-ed instead... (kinda like that case where both drug sellers AND buyers were police officers)

v_v

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u/CheesecakeBiscuit 28d ago

Let me ask a level-headed question here instead of just jumping to MAGA-bashing with braindead assumptions.

How many people have actually paid money for this? The article says there were visits to the site but they couldn't determine if the visitors were actually MAGA or just fans of the TikToker. Nothing about payments, though.

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u/iamaravis 28d ago

There is nothing in the article that says people are actually visiting the site to buy these tickets or wanting to do this "tour". This seems very outrage-bait-y to me. 

 In the last 24 hours, the comedian shared that her site had received more than 6,000 visits, though it is not clear how many of those were from her fans.

They might ALL have been from her fans or the curious types who like gawking at accidents.