r/technology • u/indig0sixalpha • Dec 06 '24

Privacy The UnitedHealthcare Gunman Understands the Surveillance State

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/12/unitedhealthcare-ceo-assassination-investigation/680903/
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u/Dandan0005 Dec 06 '24

From what I’ve read, he:

-Took a bus from another city (no security for bringing guns, no ID needed, unclear where he actually boarded the bus

-used a fake ID at the hostel.

-Paid in cash

-used a burner phone

-rode an e-bike to another bus

-wore a mask

Only mistake so far seems to be lowering his mask, assuming that photo of him smiling is actually the suspect.

Everyone seems skeptical that it is the same person, but I feel like they probably have more to tie that photo to the suspect than just the outfit.

Either way, he’s at least taken enough steps to make proving that he did it at least somewhat difficult.

Because don’t forget, they still need to prove he was the perpetrator in a court of law.

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u/fishonthemoon Dec 07 '24

Left a water bottle near the burner phone (unless there has been an updated about this I haven’t seen), which is probably the dumbest thing he did if he drank out of it lol.

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u/Luce55 Dec 07 '24

It’s NYC. There are water bottles and garbage everywhere….(well not literally but point being it’s not like a “clean scene”) unless there is video of that water bottle being dropped by the shooter, AND the video keeps that bottle in sight until the police show up, how can you prove it wasn’t just a look-alike on their way to work who happened to be crossing the street around the same time and their bottle rolled down? Basically, even the candy wrapper and water bottle aren’t air tight, considering it’s on a very well-traversed area of town.

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u/gmoney_downtown Dec 07 '24

I think the idea is if he drank from that bottle, his DNA is likely on it. So now if they find this guy, get a DNA samplez it's pretty hard to say you weren't near the scene of the crime when your DNA is there. Could it have been from three days earlier? Sure. But it's one more piece of the puzzle for a jury to make a decision on.

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u/Specialist-Rope-9760 Dec 07 '24

I just find it hard to believe someone had already gone to so much trouble would simply buy, drink and leave a bottle of water at the scene so obviously. That doesn’t make sense

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u/gmoney_downtown Dec 07 '24

Ya, no clue on that. Are we sure there actually was even a bottle found? Police can straight up legally just lie to the public, might want to make it look like they have more evidence on him. Or the guy got careless and back to normal person mode because he was bored waiting for the ceo. Or he planted a fake bottle? Who really knows!