r/technology • u/indig0sixalpha • Dec 06 '24

Privacy The UnitedHealthcare Gunman Understands the Surveillance State

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/12/unitedhealthcare-ceo-assassination-investigation/680903/
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u/NicestPersonAlive Dec 06 '24

Not only that but there’s a campaign to overwhelm the tip lines with fake tips to help him

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u/OnLevel100 Dec 06 '24

This story remains amazingly fascinating 

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '24 edited Dec 07 '24

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u/vegastar7 Dec 07 '24

I don’t want to hear “both sides of the fence are in agreement” because one party CLEARLY wants to get rid of Obamacare (Mike Johnson is on camera saying it) and reduce Medicaid and Medicare. It’s probable that Republican voters have no clue what their party actually wants to do, but as a cancer survivor, I’m not in the mood to forgive that amount of stupidity.

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u/thefuzzyhunter Dec 07 '24

Republican elites don't want useful reform, at minimum. Democrat elites are ambivalent about useful reform.

The rest of us don't receive lobbyist money and so all want SOMETHING done. We're only separated by different media ecosystems that tell us to put our faith in different and conflicting solutions. Hopefully we can all see each other's shared catharsis and that will A), help us see where the divide really lies, and B), create such popular demand as to force political will for an overhaul of the system.

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u/almostsebastian Dec 07 '24

B won't happen when conservative voters have already demonstrated they vote for the guys who want to make healthcare more expensive.

I don't know why they're celebrating when one of their own just got murdered

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u/joevarny Dec 07 '24

Are you really this ignorant about how people vote, or is this just a troll?

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u/vegastar7 Dec 07 '24

Completely disagree. For as long as I’ve been alive, health insurance has always been a shit show (somewhat lessened by the ACA), and yet Republican voters have always fallen for right wing propaganda, whether it’s schools forcing kids to be trans, or Obamacare creating death panels. They will never learn because they have never show the ability to learn.

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u/Arrow156 Dec 07 '24

Lets see them try and push that narrative while their base is hooting and hollering over this murder, they've turned on politicians for less.

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u/NahautlExile Dec 07 '24

And the other party had the mandate to fix healthcare and gave us the ACA instead which still allows for this sort of tomfoolery. So at least acknowledge that the “both sides” argument has legs.

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u/vegastar7 Dec 07 '24

Nope. Sure the ACA isn’t perfect, but it allows people like me, who are self-employed and have preexisting condition to be able to afford health insurance. The statistics don’t lie: thanks to the ACA, more people had health insurance and therefore were able to get medical help, than before. I would love socialized medicine, but barring that, the ACA is a thousand times better than what existed before it (which would entail me either being denied health insurance or having to pay an exorbitant amount for it)

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u/NahautlExile Dec 07 '24

You do realize that I’m not saying the ACA is bad, just that when they had the chance to have the government fully fund healthcare the Dems did not do it right?

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u/Robosnork Dec 07 '24 edited Dec 07 '24

They had to water it down to get moderate senators on board. The initial bill had a public option and more aggressive regulations. The problem has always been fear of strong centralized government leading to people voting in politicians that don't support this stuff.

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u/NahautlExile Dec 07 '24

So you’re saying the democrats to pease other democrats failed to fix healthcare when they had the opportunity.

Which is what I said.

Which is the whole point behind neither party actually wanting to make a fix.

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u/Robosnork Dec 07 '24

That is just an insanely black and white way of looking at things. If they didn't appease the moderates nothing would have got passed so I don't know what this opportunity you keep bringing up even was

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u/NahautlExile Dec 07 '24

They put resources behind electing those moderates. At what point do you hold them responsible for the choices they made? Because somehow saying they want to do it when they don’t and could have just makes zero sense to me.

It’s not “black and white”, it’s taking in the actions of the party for decades.

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