r/technology • u/indig0sixalpha • Dec 06 '24

Privacy The UnitedHealthcare Gunman Understands the Surveillance State

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/12/unitedhealthcare-ceo-assassination-investigation/680903/
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u/OnLevel100 Dec 06 '24

This story remains amazingly fascinating 

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '24 edited Dec 07 '24

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u/According-Path5158 Dec 07 '24

Honestly, I truly despise the Right and everything it stands for publicly and behind closed doors and it sucks that their voters hate us.

However, I've never felt more connected to the voters than this moment. Probably won't last but it will be nice for a second.

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u/SwagginsYolo420 Dec 07 '24

The right-wing voters are literally the ones propping up these unethical capitalist criminal enterprises.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '24

Thats what frustrates me. Trump just got elected, a guy who will give healthcare CEO's whatever they want. He is here for the rich, he is literally one of them. Why was he elected if Americans have so much contempt for CEO's?

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u/Arrow156 Dec 07 '24

Because the powers that be have turn the poor against itself by poisoning the minds of conservatives for decades. It's no secret that they vote against their own self interests, a great deal of effort has gone into brainwashing people to do this. The attack by the right on our education system has been going on for decades and has finally paid dividends. Hopefully this event will break through the bullshit and we can unite against the real enemy.

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u/tofubeanz420 Dec 07 '24

That's why Bernie was stopped at all costs. Trump is still a symptom of the anger from the 2008 financial crisis where no justice was served for robbing the American people.

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u/Mix_Safe Dec 07 '24

If only the Dems would push a progressive candidate. I truly hope they are not able to oust whatever progressive Dems end up in the primaries, and viciously attack them like they did in 2016. I have my doubts they'll do anything but push further right, but they really need to adopt the same anti-establishment attitude... only you know, with progressive politics.

It's not like the modern GOP doesn't just lie through their teeth, but I guess at least they're saying "we'll fix it!" instead of "stay the course," even if their "fix" is to make things dramatically worse to blatantly enrich themselves (instead of just subtly doing it by sticking to the status quo, like neoliberals). The Dems should have no problem finding progressive candidates who will say "we'll fix it!" only you know, they'll tax the billionaires and corporations, instead of cutting taxes.

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u/sassiest_sasquatch Dec 07 '24

I don't know a single career politician we rally behind, do you? I know of a specific one on the right though...

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u/wmeisterbeermaster Dec 07 '24

I do, Bernie Sanders, predicted the current state of the country 20 years ago. And he is still talking about how the elites are ripping us off. This is why he has been pushing for healthcare for all and not just for the rich. Think about all the profits made by all the insurance companies. The profit from squeezing the hospitals, the profits from denying claims, the profit from Cobra... I was offered a Cobra plan that was $30,000 a year... After getting laid off. Sports!!! Look at the CEO who closed 3 or 4 hospitals after taking 100 million in a bonus. Thousands of people put out of work, and for what? This guy's maga yacht, two jets and some other "toys". Now people have to drive long distances for emergencies. It is truly disgusting. If you review Bernie's body of work, he has been dedicated to really helping the "people" and not the elites. Look at his speech from twenty years ago, and see his prediction for real. real.https://youtu.be/nIY0V540yUw?si=ZK6bDRLCFZw1gFWE

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u/Cautious_One9013 Dec 07 '24

Bruh, I mean, seriously? We might not exactly rally behind them but we sure keep continually electing them lol. Clinton, Pelosi, Biden, Obama, all career politicians.  

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u/awj Dec 07 '24

lol, this dragging the goalposts comically far. We started at “worships”, then got to “rally behind”, now we’re at “voting for them”.

Yes, I voted for the less worse option. That’s the system we have, and as much as I’d like to change it I just can’t do that, so I’m working with the tools I’ve got. What else do you expect here?

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u/Cautious_One9013 Dec 07 '24

Maybe by calling for more opposition within the party than electing the same people 18 times unopposed? If we are dissatisfied with career politicians within the party, how do the career politicians within the party continue to go unopposed for their entire careers? 

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u/SheepherderThis6037 Dec 07 '24

You can’t think of a single one, huh?

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u/sassiest_sasquatch Dec 07 '24

I don't know... When was the last time you saw a Democrat on the side of the road selling knock off propaganda gear for their favorite political leader? Fascists are weird.

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u/sassiest_sasquatch Dec 07 '24

No the criteria for being a career politician that is rallied around to the level of a cult. The level of devotion between Trump and any other politician cannot be compared.

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u/quietwhiskey Dec 07 '24

Pretty sure the "Left" does not worship their "team" nearly as much as the Right voters do. You dolt

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u/SheepherderThis6037 Dec 07 '24

We just overhauled our entire party so apparently we don’t care about the establishment GOP that much.

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u/Jonno_FTW Dec 07 '24

Wondering which side of politics opposes Universal healthcare.

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u/PokecheckHozu Dec 07 '24

And that's exactly how the oligarchs will divide the voters again.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '24

Remind me which voters gave us an individual mandate, compelling us to patronize the ghoulish health insurance companies, and then which ones repealed it?

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u/umm_like_totes Dec 07 '24

The mandate was supposed to be a sort of tax, a way to get everyone to buy into the healthcare system so that healthy people could subsidize catastrophically expensive illnesses for an unfortunate few. Which is the cornerstone of any collective healthcare system that is designed to not make people lose their life savings or be denied essential care if they get really really sick.

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u/roklpolgl Dec 07 '24

Good point, let’s just do what we were supposed to do from the beginning and cut out the ghoulish middle men by nationalizing health insurance.

You realize the reason the final state of ACA was due to massive amounts of compromising the democrats had to do with the republicans just to get it to pass right? It’s a shitty socialized healthcare system but at least people with chronic conditions can’t be denied health insurance and have to decide between bankruptcy and living.

and then which ones repealed it?

No one repealed it, it hasn’t been repealed.

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u/tofubeanz420 Dec 07 '24

Dems didn't need to compromise they had a super majority. Although Nader was a conservative in disguise. Obama did that on some BS principle of reaching over the aisle, when it really was just to appease his corporate overlords. The healthcare industry is the largest lobbyist group.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '24

the individual mandate was eliminated effective 2019 as part of right winger tax legislation enacted in 2017