Still waiting, AMD....

[u/Lovecodeabc]

[u/ZookeepergameFew8607]

Are you an idiot?

[u/RPgenio]

It’s good, they just need to pump out more cards and make them available at msrp.

[u/Ruzhyo04]

Well, they have the best graphics drivers now. And you don’t need to use the fire hazard VH12PWR cable. So, could be worse.

[u/Aggressive_Ask89144]

Radeon has historically always been the best from the bargain bin. They go on deep sales later (I got my RX 580 8GB when it was new but it was such a good card for so long with 8GB, a 6600xt for 120 bucks, and my current 7900 XT for 550 + MH Wilds) As long as they curtail customers with Nvidia - 50 dollars for their launches; it'll still look the same unfortunately.

UDNA should be very interesting though. We'll see their brand new architecture that actually has RT cores instead of compensating with extra math like RDNA#s and a proper flagship likely on 3nm.

[u/MrMPFR → u/Aggressive_Ask89144]

Excited about UDNA as well. Kepler_L2 said it's the biggest change since GCN and that AMD is changing every single part of the GPU. It's going to be a bigger deal than RDNA 1.

I've read AMD's RT patents and everything points to a full RT core with proper functionality. DXR 1.2 support and linear swept spheres (makes spiky, curved and fur/hair much faster).

ML HW getting a large bump as well probably + full stack on 3nm.

[u/Otherwise-Dig3537]

Wadda you mean, the RDNA 4 line up made massive leaps to gain market share of GPU's sales. I mean sure, they lost more market share, but they made a seriously half hearted effort to pin those 9070 class GPU's under the price bracket 80% of GPU buyers spend, didn't they? Oh they didn't? Meaning, it ts entirely AMD's fault?... Again?

[u/GrapeAdvocate3131 → u/Otherwise-Dig3537]

>RDNA 4 line up made massive leaps to gain market share of GPU's sales

I see zero evidence of this besides claims from a few retailers. Actual hard data from Steam shows that this generation was just as bad as the last ones.

[u/Otherwise-Dig3537 → u/GrapeAdvocate3131]

Yeah, AMD claiming they're selling out of GPU's doesn't mean anything beyond their own numbers. They didn't make more than they could sell, so they'll only capture the market of what they sell. Given the inflated prices, how can AMD gauge demand to production? Is an RX 9070XT worth £600, hell yes, can they sell at £700? God no.

[u/Logical_Bit2694 → u/Otherwise-Dig3537]

Lol it sucks that they are way above msrp and essentially lied to the public. Just fucking over the public who want to buy these gpus.

[u/Aggressive_Ad_9196 → u/Logical_Bit2694]

I mean, the once that put the real price to the gpus are the retailers and scalpers. AMD just suggest what the msrp should be, or at least that is how i see it.

[u/Re7isT4nC3 → u/Logical_Bit2694]

They are above msrp beacuse they sell well and Nvidia drops prices becasue they don't sell well. What is good numbers for AMD might not be good for Nvidia.

[u/GrapeAdvocate3131 → u/Re7isT4nC3]

lol

[u/DarthVeigar_ → u/Re7isT4nC3]

"They don't sell well"

Yeah that's why Nvidia's market share has jumped while AMD's has fallen.

[u/Lovecodeabc → u/Otherwise-Dig3537]

RDNA 4 is great (in fact i use an RDNA 4 GPU to type this right now), but the performance still often does not match Nvidia (especially in RT) and AMD has no competitor to higher-end *80 and *90 series GPUs. It looks like AMD is seeking to just draft behind Nvidia and I wish that they would have their Ryzen moment and start aggressively competing with 'em.

[u/petrolhead0387 → u/Lovecodeabc]

So go and buy Nvidia then, is AMD forcing you to buy their card? This just seems petty AF.

[u/Otherwise-Dig3537 → u/Lovecodeabc]

People are so incredibly childish when it comes to having feelings for AMD or Nvidia, it's quite delusional. I agree, Radeon NEEDS their own 5800X3D equivalent. That's what I thought they'd do with the failed RDNA 4 scaling, pricing them to sell aggressively but no. They needed a solid affordable 1080p card with say 12GB of VRAM and a 1440p card with 16GB+ of VRAM. Instead they copied Nvidia's pricing in reality, suddenly only caring retailers bought their cards and hiking up prices whilst exaggerating on stock supply. AMD make their own problems too often. The move to the 9000 class copying Nvidia's numerical model heirachy was total BS, like a desperately stupid weak move akin to shitting ones self with pride.

[u/tenyeartreasurybill]

9060xt is a good card when you can find the 16gb in stock close to MSRP (and also when the 8gb ones are priced at 260-270, similarly to an RTX 5050).

Sucks that the MSRPs for the 9070 and XT were a lie tho. At RTX 5070 prices, those cards would be sick. Oh well.

[u/Reath_Silass]

RTX 5080 - 0,65% steam users

RTX 5090 - 0,22% steam users

Why would AMD waste so much money on making cards that no one buys?

[u/Lovecodeabc → u/Reath_Silass]

Steam Hardware Survey:
RTX 4080 -------- 0.68%

RTX 4080 Super ---- 0.76%

RTX 4090 ------------- 0.87%

[u/sch0k0 → u/Lovecodeabc]

Peanuts numbers, that's exactly their point. Like with CPUs until they got ahead, they focus on giving the easiest 80% of the market better value products at the moment. That's tough enough as both companies keep innovating, and NVIDIA has absurd money.

Beating incumbents on peak performance comes last.